Anyone who tries to claim general arguments like cosmological or teleological support a known god currently worshiped are ignoring the possibility that it’s an unknown god not worshiped

I saw this on another post and wanted to make my own about the topic.

Let’s take something like a cosmological argument that argues the universe was made by a god. Let’s grant most of the premises. Now what? A catholic might tell you that only the god of Catholicism has the needed attributes to be that god. A Muslim will tell you it can only be Allah. A Hindu will say it must be their one god that we are all an aspect of and part of. So on and so forth.

I say they’re all wrong. They’re making the mistake of assuming you can only pick from known gods. What if there’s some god that exists but that not a single person worships? Maybe this god doesn’t care about being known or worshiped, for instance. Why does it have to be one from an existing religion?

Some rebuttals I’ve heard that I’ll quickly discuss.

  1. A god that is known is greater than one that is not known.

That’s just, like, your opinion, man. But really, it really is subjective and an opinion.

  1. Whether or not you realize, you’re just still talking about my god.

No, we are not. For instance, maybe the theist is a catholic. For all we know, maybe the god that fits the criteria of a cosmological or teleological argument also prefers gay sex. Maybe they don’t care about the Jews any more or less than anyone else. Maybe they didn’t need to sacrifice an aspect of themselves in human form to save us, so on and so forth.

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If you correctly guess an unknown Requiem the tracking system wont update to reflect that. When i unlocked the second Requiem from thrall farming i got the one i already knew. Getting lucky with a unknown Requiem should put it on the known list of Requiems. Please fix this DE.
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A Russian journalist known for his criticism of President Vladimir Putin has died after being beaten by unknown attackers, it has been reported. Nikolai Andrushchenko, 73, who co-founded the Novy Peterburg newspaper, was attacked six weeks ago and had been in a coma since then. independent.co.uk/news/wo…
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Are there any widely known and understood phrases in your language where some word's meaning in the phrase is rather obscure and unknown?

Like in Hungarian the phrase "patyolat tiszta" means really clean and most people know and use it, but the individual meaning of "patyolat" is unknown to a lot of native speakers.

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The known unknown murderer
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TIL The oldest known figurative painting was discovered in a cave on Borneo island, Indonesia: a depiction of a bull has been dated to be 40,000 years old. It is unknown which people created the paintings and what happened to them en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lub…
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The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It: "A little-known start-up helps law enforcement match photos of unknown people to their online images β€” and 'might lead to a dystopian future or something,' a backer says." nytimes.com/2020/01/18/te…
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This is the diving bell spider which is the only side spider known to live almost entirely under water. The diving bells are filled with air and made of silk and an unknown protein-based hydroge. Some spiders anchor the bell and use it as a home base, while others take it with them.
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TIL That although known locally, Machu Picchu was not known to the Spanish during the colonial period and remained unknown to the outside world until American historian Hiram Bingham brought it to international attention in 1911. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac…
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[WP] The common cold was an unstoppable bio-weapon banned in most of the galaxy and secretly dumped onto an unknown rocky world on the outskirts of known space. Thousands if years later a race known as human arrives, and one of them has traces of the deadly pathogen in their system.
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Which currently unknown player on your team will be known by the end of the coming season and why?

I'm bored at work and need some reading material.

I'll start - for the Habs I believe Jerabek will have a good season coming from the KHL and will open a lot of eyes in the Habs fanbase and the greater NHL fanbase.

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Do you think Petscop is the work of a well-known company or group, or someone relatively unknown?

This is not a request for doxxing or trying to find concrete answers, but more of a general discussion.

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Darlie Routier Theory: I think she’s innocent. I believe that she crossed the wrong person at some point, maybe someone who was an unknown serial killer at the time. Her kids were known to be wild and out of control in the neighborhood. Did a neighbor have it out for her or someone else?
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I did this study of the skull of Joseph Merrick. He was also known as β€œThe Elephant Man” due to his severe physical deformities. The cause of his condition is still unknown.
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In BTTF 2 Griff uses a bat that says Kirk Gibson Jr. on it. Senior Was known for his home run in 1988. Interestingly enough, he actually has a son who is a junior, most likely unknown by the writers at the time.
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The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It. A little-known start-up helps law enforcement match photos of unknown people to their online images β€” and β€œmight lead to a dystopian future or something,” a backer says. nytimes.com/2020/01/18/te…
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Has anyone ever heard of this unknown indie actor? He’s in lesser known gems like John Wick, The Matrix and Bill & Ted.
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AoA still known as "Unknown Expansion" in the useless app that tracks my useless amber shards, while set 3 was announced.

The devil's in the details and I guess keyforge way embraces the philosophy of fuck the details and who cares about balance just go have fun.

I'm only half complaining.

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[UNKNOWN > ENGLISH] - Can anyone help translate the text on this image? Any info is appreciated. Had this image on my computer for years but never known what it says, potentially getting a tattoo of it so would like to know the meaning before commiting. Thanks!
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Music snobs of Reddit, what's a great unknown or lesser known song you want to share with the world?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/1stevercody
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Mueller Finally Solves Mysteries About Russia’s β€˜Fancy Bear’ Hackers: They may be part of the Kremlin’s best-known hacker crew. But many of their most important players were unknownsβ€”until the Special Counsel stepped in. thedailybeast.com/mueller…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/MortWellian
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[WP] Translated from unknown alien language: The following footage is a government approved educational film about the planet known as Terra, Tellus or more commonly, Earth.

This is my first post here so I don't know if I'm following the rules correctly.

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I want the next Farcry to be about Clutch Nixon’s adventures in space and how he became the greatest space pilot in all known and unknown existence.
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So can someone help me understand the percentages of 2 known relatives vs unknown?

My mom is one of 14 children. 23&me has matched me with 2 (different) uncles' great-granddaughters.

Highest match: Cousin A First Cousin Twice removed with 3.42% and 16 segments matched.

3rd Highest Match: Cousin B First Cousin Twice removed with 2.32% and 12 segments matched.

Cousin A and I share a chunk of X Chromosome, which I assume is from my grandmother/her great-great-grandmother.

There is an unknown person in between them ( also female) who is 3.22% and 12 segments matched.

My question is what causes the variance is the two known Cousins percentages and who would be the unknown person? ( She is not a known first cousin or 2nd cousin. I know all of my 36 first cousins on that side)

Edited to update the Consanguinity terms.

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[NEWS] Rumors have gotten out that Varis is working on an album, the name is unknown but the genre is known, it will be a very simple rock album, drawing inspiration from bands like The Beatles, Queen, The Rolling Stones, The Doors and The Kinks.
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Who loves the dark & melancholic Trip Hop? Who loves to discover little-known gems, instead of repeating Massive Attack over and over again? If there is someone like this, this playlist is just for him! Over 100 damn good & mostly unknown songs collected in the compilation, which I proudly present. open.spotify.com/playlist…
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[Unknown>english] These are the stone tablets used in the movie "The Ten Commandments". It is pretty well known what is supposed to be written on them, but I'm more interested in what language and/or what kind of alphabet is used here.
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YSK that Music Nepal's official SOUNDCLOUD account has tons of high quality CD rips of entire albums of multiple known and unknown artists. You can binge listen them and the genre varies to contain all known Nepali genres. soundcloud.com/music-nepa…
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Euro Currency Explained - Euro Money in the European Union (Known & Unknown Facts) youtube.com/watch?v=Ny1Cq…
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In the universe, there are things that are known, and things that are unknown, and in between, there are doors.
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"I didn't think I should mind dying; for dying must be like this passage from the known (constituted by life-long habits of subject-object existence) to the unknown cosmic fact." -Adlous Huxley in a letter to Dr. Humphrey Osmond when describing a recent Mescaline trip

Taken from Huxley's book "The Moksha" where he talks about his love for psychedelics. Using psychedelics has allowed me to get over my fear of death and his book perfectly summarizes why. would recommend.

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The Antarctic Worm: Eulagisca gigantea. "Judging by the size of the jaws, [it] is a predator, but its diet is unknown, and very little is known about its biology."
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TIL Rocksteady Studios, the game dev team known best for the Batman Arkham games, have literally only developed said games since their formation in 2004, as well as a 2006 game named Urban Chaos: Riot Response. They're currently working on an unknown game of an "existing IP." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc…
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If there was a anything goes tournament to decide the worlds best fighter who would win and would it be a known fighter or someone unknown?
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In IT Chapter 2 (2019), the owner of the second hand store is played by an unknown, first-time actor due to his striking resemblance to a little known horror author called Stephen King, who wrote such literary abominations such as The Shawshank Redemption, The Shining and Misery.
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My mom was very sweet and got me some "cactus seeds" online. I started them with some known cactus seeds. A single seed from the unknown batch germinated. Clearly not a cactus, but what is it?
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The Last Jedi: Its Flaws as Pointed Out by Writing Suggestions from Both Known and Unknown Authors imgur.com/a/zjtpWhv
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House of Commons Library has published a briefing paper on "Brexit Unknowns", breaking down what is "known" and "unknown" about the effects of Brexit. researchbriefings.parliam…
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TIL about Katsudō Shashin, a Japanese animated filmstrip that is the oldest known work of animation from Japan. Its creator is unknown. Evidence suggests it was made before 1912, so it may predate the earliest displays of Western animated films in Japan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kat…
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[Math Geometry] Quadrilateral cake divided into 4 parts, 3 of them have known weight, find the weight of the unknown part

Here is the image, which represents a flat cake divided into 4 pieces of which 3 of them have known weights. How would it be possible to find out the weight of the unknown 4th piece? No other information is provided.

It's meant for a 7th grade in primary schools, but I really can't figure it out :). I would post attempts, but they would probably be irrelevant since it should be rather simple to solve (answer 200 was wrong).

I believe that it has something to do with the ratios. I have received a hint that the number of the missing triangle is between 120 and 300.

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[MF] Into The Known Unknown

A soft ringing from the alarm on his watch woke him gently, while the blinds receded into the ceiling revealing a beautiful summer morning. The sun caressed his wrinkled face, his eyes slowly opening and a timer on his watch started counting down from forty-eight hours. He looked to his right and noticed an envelope occupying the space where he usually found his wife. She was not one for early mornings and would be more demonic than human before he brought her a cup of coffee and an apology for snoring yet again. To Ragnar. For your journey. Love, Ilse. The words were written in golden runes and immediately his eyes went blank before a serene drop of water ran down his cheek. He was turning seventy in two days and before his journey was over, he would have read and burned that letter. The day you turn seventy is a day that is cherished by everyone who loves you and even by those who do not know you. He smiled to himself, putting the envelope on the nightstand before getting dressed. Usually he would wear jeans and a simple shirt but today he wore a white robe with gold trims and stitched runes running across his chest and back. Stretching his arms above his head, joints cracking, muscles flexing, he recited to himself, β€œWe who think we can walk are merely crawling compared to the gods. This life is but an instant and nothing but the energy you bring with you in the afterlife matters. Love everyone and everything for you are them and they are you. Odin, All-Father, teach me to walk as I have now learned to crawl.”

As he came into the kitchen, he saw Ilse finishing up breakfast. A great spread of smoked fish, eggs, vegetables, sourdough bread and fresh berries drizzled with a salted caramel vanilla sauce that was his favourite stood before him, the guest of honour. She is as beautiful as the day I met her, he thought. She looked no older than forty even though she was only six years younger than him. β€œThe gods have been kind to both me and you wife, for blessing you with the beauty of Freya and also making you dumb enough to love a fool like me.” She gave him a look only he would understand before her smile brightened the room like no sun ever could. Slowly, she walked across the room, wrapped her arms around his broad shoulders and kissed him gently. She tasted like morning dew drops and smelt of sweet honey. To him she was beauty manifested, sculpted by the great powers of these worlds. Her slightly crooked nose, the freckles hugging her cheekbon

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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''Goo is the ultimate essence; the absolute binding; the unification of separation. Goo exists outside of what is outside of perception, always two steps ahead of our feeble minds. It's unknown to those who know it, and known to those who know it not.'' ~ Frederique Nietche - The Myth of Syphilis
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Euro Currency Explained - Euro Money in the European Union (Known & Unknown Facts) youtube.com/watch?v=Ny1Cq…
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Titration: Recently in my chemistry class, we have learned how to calculate the unknown concentration of an acid (that is being used for the titration) from the known concentration of the base. The problem is that i didn't quite caught the idea behind it.....

Is there someone who can explain to me how one can calculate the concentration of an acid (in a titration) if we already know what the concentration of the base is?

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The Secretive Company That Might End Privacy as We Know It: A little-known start-up helps law enforcement match photos of unknown people to their online images β€” and β€œmight lead to a dystopian future or something,” a backer says nytimes.com/2020/01/18/te…
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[Question] Is it worth to buy unknown players with 88+ overall or buy known famous players with 85+ overall from the market?
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Saint Evdokimos: the biggest known unknown saint from Mount Athos - Full Photo Report asceticexperience.com/por…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/m_Th
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Remember the "there are known knowns" quote? Any idea what are the "unknown knowns"?

>Rumsfeld stated: Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.

However, Rumsfeld omitted the part about "unknown knowns". Are "unknown knowns" facts that we think are correct but in fact aren't? (Like back in the middle ages when people believed that the world is flat.)

Or is it more like intuition? Things that we instinctively know how to do but don't know how to explain?

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