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Hi, everyone. I've spoken to many of you publicly or privately over the past 48H to better understand why you are seeing idle voltages the community considers to be high. Some of the back-and-forth was covered in this thread, but I wanted to submit my own post to bring more visibility to this topic. We have a final answer for you.
Understanding What's Going On
We have determined that many popular monitoring tools are quite aggressive in how they monitor the behavior of a core. Some of them wake every core in the system for 20ms, and do this as often as every 200ms. From the perspective of the processor firmware, this is interpreted as a workload that's asking for sustained performance from the core(s). The firmware is designed to respond to such a pattern by boosting: higher clocks, higher voltages.
The Effect of This Pattern
So, if you're sitting there staring at your monitoring tool, the tool is constantly instructing all the cores to wake up and boost. This will keep the clockspeeds high, and the corresponding voltages will be elevated to support that boost. This is a classic case of observer effect: you're expecting the tool to give valid data, but it's actually producing invalid data by virtue of how it's measuring.
What about Ryzen Balanced vs. Windows Balanced Plan?
By now, you may know that 3rd Gen Ryzen heralds the return of the Ryzen Balanced power plan (only for 3rd Gen CPUs; everyone else can use the regular ol' Windows plan). This plan specifically enables the 1ms clock selection we've been promoting as a result of CPPC2. This allows the CPU to respond more quickly to workloads, especially bursty workloads, which improves performance for you. In contrast, the default "Balanced" plan that comes with Windows is configured to a 15ms clock selection interval.
Some have noticed that switching to the Windows Balanced plan, instead of the Ryzen Balanced Plan, causes idle voltages to settle. This is because the default Balanced Plan, with 15ms intervals, comparatively instructs the processor to ignore 14 of 15 clock requests relative to the AMD plan.
So, if the monitoring tool is sitting there hammering the cores with boost requests, the default plan is just going to discard most of them. The core frequency and clock will settle to true idle values now and then. But if you run our performance-enhancing plan, the CPU is
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Ok, don't get me wrong I am not loosing any sleep or anything, but with prints taking several hours or even days to complete, there is a feeling of anticipation in starting a print, and a feeling that you should manage the "queue" carefully because if you launch a print, then you cannot turn back and say "wait, I need this other thing first"... So, as a result, sometimes not printing seems like a little waste even if there is nothing I really need at the moment.
Is it just me?
L.Backlit screens in dark rooms. Seclusion. Sequestered away with what I thought where dreams swimming into nightmares. It's okay it's fine. Feel the shame from time to time. Unrealistic expectactions steal the endorphins of my imagination. Deeper down the rabbit hole. Time lost in false extacy. Creeping , up my spine and to my fingertips. A phallic fallacy of moments unrealized and potential squandered. Trying to dig my way out, but just one more fix. Don't tell, don't tell. Youll never live it down. Don't share. Who can see you, you're a family man now. Redemption, seems like an afterthought because it's so broken. Every time takes a piece. Little bit by little bit. The Goblins come nightly and you're restless. Idle hands idle hands.
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Wanted to know how NEVERLANDs would describe them though!
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A server for playing word games and User-Above-You games in like the ones found in message boards. Role rewards for reaching certain levels. PokeMeow, Idle Miner, Mudae. A birthday role and announcement on that day if you register your birth date (month and day) with the bot. Skribblio, Among Us, trivia, caption this, Does-Anybody-Else, Would-You-Rather, etc.
