Hey r/SaaS

A couple of months ago I really got into the indie hacker space and was looking to build my own SaaS app...

The only problem was that I had no clue what to build.

I messed around with a few ideas but didn't really like them... I ended up finding this website through Product Hunt that is a marketplace like Micro Acquire/Flippa that sold smaller SaaS projects.

At least for me, this marketplace was a gold mine... Instead of going through the stress of building a startup from scratch and getting it from 0 to 1, I figured I could just focus on scaling a project that was already built out.

I ended up acquiring: Virtualghostwriter.com An app that uses GPT-3 to generate different types of copywriting like summarizing text, article writing etc.

At the time of purchase it had around 10k users and $200 MRR. I bought it for $5k

I did have to pay for a premium membership to buy the project but considering since then (July 2021) I have grown it to $1k MRR, id say it was worth it...

Don't get me wrong i've been putting in the work to get virtual ghost writer to $1k in MRR but I feel app marketplaces are a cheat code when it comes to making money from SaaS. you get access to the opportunity to buy already built out projects that are ready to be scaled, all you gotta do is put in some hard work.

The website I bought from seemed like a young platform with a ton of listings that could be gold mines...
Just thought I'd share : )

Do you think it is better to build from scratch or acquire?

Hey folks. I'm about to start my 4th and final semester for my mktg diploma and I am, if nothing else, an imaginative writer. I've been mulling about the idea of freelance copywriting.

Its appealing because I did it over the summer for a small nonprofit (that is going nowhere) and found the work was very monetarily rewarding. I would be able to stay inside and not have to travel plus it would be nicer than dealing with the general public in retail.

So my plan is pretty simple: At first i made a marketing strategy template and drew up some basics. I think what I will do is create a website for featuring a portfolio. Then I will write a short story, a couple of researched articles, and potentially design a catalogue of products with original copy.

Then I was going to get professional headshots for LinkedIn and make a page there and also try to get gigs through Fiverr.

Should I create a brand and logo as well? Does anyone have any insights on this that could help?

Thank you

99% of the material I see on copywriting is just about "mentors" trying to teach new copywriters on how to make an absurd amount of money every month.

Is this field just a giant scam?

There are so many types (email, social media, SEO, landing pages…), do you work with just one or do you do several? Which one did you learn first? Which one do you think is the most valuable to know?

Disclaimer: I wrote this in an hour and it's an outline for a blog post on my website. Excuse any errors and whatnot.

Some of you may remember me from the other post lol. Got bombarded with questions, thought it'd be best to give you guys one accessible hub for all the FAQs.

Couple of things before we get started:

- I am currently not up for hire. I'd love to help you, but my hands are full.

- Any other questions I will answer here, in public, for others.

- These are my opinions from what I learned and did to scale on Fiverr after a bit over a year. I cannot guarantee this will work for you. It did for me though. So all advice should be taken as my "expert" opinion.

- I was a copywriter before I grew on Fiverr. But, this guide should work for you because as far as Fiverr was concerned, I was just a new profile. My experience didn't give me any direct advantage in the algorithm, but maybe the fact that I mentioned my years in the game in my bio enticed some buyers.

Covering:

• What is copywriting? (Ethical click-baiting)
• Do you have to be a native English Speaker? (Yes...but anyone can get to native level)
• Finding clients (step-by-step)
• Qualifications (formal education: no. / good to have: yes / do I have: no)
• Niche or no niche? (both.)
• Pricing ($ / word)

What is "copywriting"?

If I were to give you two words: ethical click-baiting.

Or, articulating words to sell, entertain, present. It’s more than marketing, it’s neurolinguistics, psychology—human behavior, HOW we react to certain words—and optimizing sentences to that.

Ramble:

Go on a website, look at all their web text. If it grabs your attention, impresses you, or just makes you raise an eyebrow, that’s the work of a great copywriter(s). My go-to: Apple.com

I love their sneaky little puns, witty phrasing, it’s all a part of the brand and selling.

The website/ad text you see is called “copy” (Idk why just don’t ask lol) The action is “writing.”

Voilà, copywriting.

*There are specializations in copywriting. Look them up: Direct response, SEO, technical, you'll see others when you google.

Do you have to be a native English speaker to be a copywriter?

Let's just say that if I was a business owner that needed one, I would ALWAYS choose a native speaker from either Canada, the US, Aus, or the UK. Maybe some European countries if the copywriter can speak English natively. Period.

I've worked with non-natives and natives, and let me tell

I need to know if it’s just YouTube gurus claiming to be high earning.

I want to see if it suits me as a career as I have a bachelor degree in English, I enjoy writing/researching and I want to be able to work remotely.

I am an INFJ for reference.

Side note: what kind of person does content writing suit more than copywriting?

I run a small software consultancy company and I contract out work to freelancers. I don't earn much, and I'm barely able to get by and I don't have the budget to run marketing campaigns. I've seen the rates of copywriters and always been curious if it's really worth investing so much. But it didn't matter since I'm not doing so well and I just can't afford what looks like a luxury expense to me. I figured I should just do it myself, so I read as much as I could, but anything I wrote just sounded cringey and terrible to me. Maybe I was being too hard on myself.

Recently one of my software clients e-mailed me asking for a small feature to be implemented in their system. I asked my freelance contractor how much he would charge me and he said a similar feature is already there and it's trivial to modify it so 50 bucks ought to do it, so I prepared a quote for the client for 100 bucks but I didn't send it. I started thinking if quoting 300 might be a little too much for them. This is where copywriting came to the picture. I figured if I write a document explaining the value they're getting from this in the long run and make them see the big picture, I might actually be able to charge 300.

After I wrote the document justifying the expense, I kept looking at it, reading it again and again. I thought to myself, "I think this is worth 500 at least". Then I started wondering if I'm deluded. Surely the client is gonna call bullshit on this. But I went for it anyway. I sent them a quote for 550 and attached the document explaining what the feature does and how it'll be implemented and the value they're getting. They told me they'll get back to me and 2 hours later, they accepted the quote and thanked me for the document I attached along.

I'm still thinking about it. If I hadn't written that document, I wouldn't even have had the confidence to ask for 500. So it has to be the writing that earned me the extra 400 bucks.

I still don't know what this type of copywriting is called but whatever it is, it's working for me and I'm so happy!

I’ll cut to the chase- I’m about to graduate college. I’m majoring in marketing.

What do I need on my resume to be considered? I feel like every other chump right now with just a college degree.

I just started a course called “80/20 Email Copywriting Crash Course,” or something like that. I have heard email copywriting is the best way for beginners to break into the industry. Maybe that will allow me to build a couple of writing samples.

Any advice would be appreciated

Notes-

[Brackets] means note from the editor (was not part of the original copy)

This was from earlier this year. Company is from New York (ELA and SAMS are elementary school-level standardized tests)

Hello,

During the era of the online classroom, many students lost their connection to learning, falling behind in a world built on education. [blocked out name] is a student-run nonprofit designed to help underprivileged students enrich their academic lives. We offer free, one-on-one tutoring in a variety of subjects including math, science, and English. So far, we’ve helped K-12 students at 25 different schools over the tri-state area and Canada.

• We prepare for standardized tests (ELA, FLACS, SAMS, AP)
• Our upcoming newsletter will cover learning and self-studying strategies
• We use donations to cover administrative costs. All profits go into mental health research, COVID relief, and any other issue we find pressing

If you are open to the idea, please connect us with interested students. You can view our qualifications from our website [in the original copy, there was a link attached to “website”]. Please reach us with this email address.

Best Regards,

[COMPANY NAME]

They were always such a good kid in school, never drank, never did the drugs, got good grades. But now it seems like they're throwing their life away on this copywriting business, it's like they're being consumed by it. We never talk about things we used to talk about anymore like good places to hide bodies and what I'm going to do to that bitch who turned me down the other day. It's always "I'm sorry OP (my name irl is OP pls don't dox me), but I have a deadline, let's do this another time but somewhere public." I'm worried they're going to get arrested or worse, and I really want to help them. What can I do?

Hey everyone,hope your week is going well. From time to time I hop on YouTube to look for some Copywriting tips or anything related.One of my favorite YouTuber is Robert Allen,he share’s some pretty good tips on how beginners can get started freelancing,and his challenges are always a pleasure to watch(check him out you might learn a thing or two) You guys have any good channels that come to mind,any recommendations would be much appreciated.

It's almost 2022 and I want to upgrade some people's copy

I'm not selling anything

This is totally FREE

I want to help you improve your copy and just generally make more money in 2022

It's kind of a "pay it forward" thing, because I've gotten a ton of copywriting help this year

So I'm going to be doing free copy critiques/reviews/breakdowns

Here's how it works:

1. Fill out the form below
2. I contact you in January
3. Send me some copy you've written
4. I will record a video breakdown of what's good, how to make it better, and WHY
5. I'll post the video to LinkedIn and/or somewhere else

You'll have the option to remain anonymous if you don't want your rough draft out there for all to see

Why should you take advice from me?

I'm Warren West

I'm the guy that went from $0 to $10k/month as a freelance copywriter in 5 months

That being said, I don't know everything there is to know

But I know some stuff

https://forms.gle/wK2e2hWDLcYMudjQA

As someone who is just entering the world of copywriting I wanted to share my findings on what can help you become a better copywriter.

It sounds simple but takes a lot of work (obviously). And rather than focus on good copywriters 24/7 sometimes it's nice to have a break and to draw inspiration from elsewhere. My goto is Hemingway.

Here's 3 tips Hemingway used to write well:

1. Use short sentences and short paragraphs

• Get to the point.

• Determine what the goals for the piece of content is and what the audience should take away.

• Use as little adjectives and adverbs as possible.

2. Use vigorous English

• Use forceful writing.

as David Garfinkel describes it:

“It’s muscular, forceful. Vigorous English comes from passion, focus and intention. It’s the difference between putting in a good effort and TRYING to move a boulder … and actually sweating, grunting, straining your muscles to the point of exhaustion … and MOVING the freaking thing!”

3. Be positive, not negative when writing:

• Instead of saying something is "cheap" say it is "affordable"
• Instead of saying something is "unsatisfactory" say it "can be improved"

Use the Hemingway app to see what level your writing is at.

• "Old Man and the Sea" read at a grade 4 level
• "The Sun Also Rises" read at a grade 6 level

Aim for grade 7 or 8. The lower the better

And that's it.

I hope this helps someone!

If you want to connect DM me on twitter, @Kalkatahh. I write stuff like this on there

Wanting to improve my copywriting skills, what are the 3 books you recoment me to start with?

Thanks!

I worked in nonprofits for eight years and wore a lot of hats - grant writing, email marketing, social media, blog posts. I quit my job two years ago and floated around a lot, though everything I tried was in the realm of “writing” — I wrote a fiction book, tried to write romance novels, was a housing reporter, made a sci-fi podcast, and started a weekly newsletter without a particular focus.

All the while I continued to work with nonprofits and political candidates, but with a lot of trepidation: I didn’t have great boundaries or confidence when I worked full-time, and I struggled with pricing, services, and being enough of a self advocate to pitch and perform well on digital marketing jobs for bigger clients.

I also went to trade school earlier this year after being totally stuck, so I was content with my “barely making ends meet” client contracts in the political world.

But right before Christmas, I had a client drop me without warning. I wrote copy that got national press, grew her social presence by 125%, raised 4K. But she ran out of money and couldn’t justify my value for her scale of work.

If I sound a little bitter, well, it’s true. I’m 31 — I like to think that I am a fast and efficient writer, and I’malways trying to get better at my craft, but I feel like I have no direction or sense of financial stability.

I realized today this is in part because I have never really buckled down and committed to trying to make a living from my writing alone – and until a long night googling the other day, I didn’t realize that what I enjoyed most about my nonprofit work was actually something called “copywriting” which can be done for any number of businesses, not just shoestring budget nonprofits.

I just wanted to say thank you to the people on this board for all of the resources and information you’ve provided here. I feel scared but hopeful about trying to narrow down my copywriting focus and start prospecting clients on LinkedIn. I have no idea what my “niche” will be, but I know what my portfolio should look like now.

Most importantly, I feel like I know more about the industry and can set better boundaries with my future clients as a result. I don’t need to take on work for exposure, without a downpayment, or feel desperate if I have a strong prospect system and keep building my portfolio.

I will keep posting here as I get going, but I just wanted to say thank you for the direction and guidance. I have a lot to improve on but I feel like I

Hello fellow copywriters, my name is C and I'm 26 this year. Recently, I've been planning to get back into copywriting, after failing at being a day-trading for about a year. However, I'm feeling stuck choosing between 2 career paths and I'll love to hear your advice on it.

A little backstory about me. I first landed my fulltime copywriting job last year as a copywriting apprentice. I started with zero experience in copywriting and slowly worked my way on it. Eventually I graduated as an apprentice and began taking on heavier roles in the company. Such as being the head copywriter for specific market segment - in charge of planning and writing ads for month long campaigns, landing pages, and day-to-day ads.

Eventually I got burnt out from writing for a market that I had zero interest in, and the stress of having to consistently hit KPI every single day was overwhelming. Not to mention that there was no additional incentives for writing a good ad, other than help the company earn more revenue.

I ended up leaving the company in good terms and pursued my interest in day-trading. Fast forward 10 months later with a net loss in my bank account. I've decided that day-trading wasn't meant for me and I'm planning to get back into the world of copywriting. However I'm now stuck in hard choice in choosing between 2 potential career paths:

1. Crypto-copywriterWith crypto slowly becoming more mainstream and the early development of meta-verse. I can foresee crypto-writers being a demand in the future. Not only that, but I can learn more about the industry during my 9-5 and invest/trade more effectively, making more money outside my job. Essentially killing two birds with one stone.
2. Working in an agency/startupIt has always been my dream to own a business one day. However I haven't thought of a solid business idea that I love, and I'm pretty sure that I lack the skills in building one too. That's why I'm keen in working in an agency/startup - where I could practice my marketing skills, as well as pick up fundamental skills on building a business from scratch. I'm not sure if this is the best way to learn the fundamentals of building a business, do correct me if I'm not wrong.

To recap - I see the benefits of both paths but I'm having a hard time in deciding which could benefit me the most.Pros of crypto-copywriter- Upcoming growing industry/high demand in the future- High entry of barrier for knowledge/lower competition- Potential to specialize in niche and ch

i was wondering if there are any industry standard certifications for Content Writers and Copywriters. just like all other skillsets come with their own certifications that helps at the time of finding work, I was looking to enroll if they exist for the writing domain. so wanted to ask this forum first.

Writing has always been a part of my corporate profile (Business, Tech, Operations, Finance, Legal, etc.), but since it was not my prime skillset, I never had to present any certifications for it. but now as I go freelancing as well, I wanted to be on par with the industry standards.

In this post, I will show you how to "Shortcut" your way to MASTERING Copywriting.

Facebook Ads Library allows you to see what ads are people/companies running. People are actually SPENDING money on this, this will also let you look into how long has the ad been running? This will tell you if the ad has been effective.

Big corporations hire the best of the best to get these done & you can simply "copy" and tweak it a bit.

Facebook Ads Library ( https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/ )

Once you get there, you need to find companies that are similar to yours or just look up a company that you know gets marketing right!

What do look for in the FB Ad Library?

1. Hook: What's getting people's attention

What's getting people to stop while they are scrolling FB/IG? Look at the images, look at the text, and also look at the Call To Action (CTA)

For example, to be less assertive, having a "BUY NOW" CTA could result in low Click Through Rate.

2. Landing Page: "The MEAT"

This is where all the action is happening. They have gotten people to stop the scroll and even click the ad, Now, this is where they have to try to convert you.

Some ads are targetted for their "WARM" lead, so you might straight up see "BUY THIS BUY THAT", which does work, but more than often, you will see them trying to lead you from being "what is this" to "i want this".

You need to look for this information:

• What is their headline? Is this same as hook on the ad?
• What is their PAIN POINT?
• What is their offer?
• What are their Claims?
• What kind of photos are there?
• Is there stories to help people visualize?
• How are they proving their claims? ( Testimonial, Before/After )
• What kind of testimonials do they have? Video? Text? Photo?
• How are they answering people's "i don't belive this " questions
• Any guarantees?
• How is the checkout process? Is it one step? multi-steps? What information are they requesting.

If you keep doing this every day at least for one product/company. You will start seeing a pattern. We human beings are very gullible. Make note of these pattern that you see, use them on your marketing.

I hope you enjoyed this post! If enough people like this, I will try to do one of these post once a week to help you guys.

Hi. I am very new to copywriting. I am an eager learner and would like to know about some books that I can read to get into the psyche of copywriting.

If you all can share some resources or what you are reading, will be very helpful. Help a fellow aspiring copywriter out... Thanks in advance. Cheers!

My friend is planning on taking the concept of Miraculous Ladybug but rewriting the characters and the plot completely, would that be considered copywriting?

https://www.reddit.com/r/writing/comments/rzle9z/is_my_friend_copywriting/

I've always been interested in both and it would be a dream to be able to do both. I suppose one could do both as a freelancer, but I'm just wondering if most ad agencies and magazine/newspaper/media organizations have non-compete clauses that include writing of *any kind*, even if it's not the same type of writing?

Could one be fully employed by one and do contract work for the other on the side, for example?

Y’all. My spec portfolio is complete! I’ve spend time browsing this sub, and hundreds of online articles. What I realized is that nothing will take the place of practice. I had a lot of fun with it, but now comes the part where I’m stumped.

Email copywriting is something I’m super interested in..but how the heck do you send deliverables? Do you need to know how to design the email, or do you just provide the words? Are you given data to understand its performance or do you acquire the data on your own? Is there a place in the internet world to better understand all of the parts of copywriting that don’t have to do with just the writing itself?

I think these are all of my questions for now.

I've been talking to my family and friends, they've all said they have gotten their products from tik tok videos or influencers or ads. My sister said she sometimes buys from buzzfeed list. Where do copywriters fit in this modern advertisement age? Where are we working at? Who are our clients now? Do copywriters need to learn graphic design? What is the bulk of your projects? What do the clients ask from you? Are copywriters mostly content creators? Is long form ads still a thing? I am trying to find a place in this copywriting world I simply do not know where to focus my efforts. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Any YouTubers or blogs in particular that are worth going through? Thanks!

I'm a journalist/writer with several years of editorial experience at big magazines, and have been doing a few copywriting gigs for a friend's company. I'm rather enjoying it in a different way, and feel there may be a lot of opportunities to grow in this field. Has anyone moved into copywriting and if so, do you have any tips on how to establish yourself as a copywriter? Or do people tend to dismiss journalists changing direction? TIA

4 Easy Copywriting Frameworks that's going to change the way you think about marketing.

Rule of 1

If you are writing an article/essay or any sort of advertorials, it's best to just focus on 1 GOOD idea. A lot of copywriters, what they do is they try to present multiple ideas in the SAME essay which not only distracts the person but there is no "1 Good Take Away". Instead, Focus on 1 good idea and defend that idea to the end.

Flesch-Kincaid Score: How easy is it to Understand?

Flesch-Kincaid (FK) readability tests are readability tests designed to indicate how difficult a passage in English is to understand. Higher the score, the more difficult it is to read it. Stay UNDER the score of 7. Microsoft word has this built-in and there are many tools online that also help.

Many times, what happens is: A copywriter, who has done a lot of research on the topic they're writing about, will start using lingos, concepts that they assume a normal consumer will know.

Power of 3

After making a claim, support it with 3 consecutive paragraphs of proof. Your first paragraph should be your strongest point and spend time making it the strongest, then 2nd and 3rd should be short and sweet. You can use this framework for long/short copy & also VSLs

Three-Legged Stool

Every copy you write, every marketing you do should have 3 elements. The "idea", or the "claim" and then some sort of "proof", use power of 3, testimonials, etc & third the "benefit".

Next time you are working on a marketing/copy. Ask yourself 3 questions.

- What is the CLAIM/Idea?- What are the proofs?- Benefit: How do people pay their mortgage with this? Is it faster?--------------

Hope this is useful!

If you enjoyed this, please give me a follow on Reddit.

Looking to make just a simple, easy to build(no code or tech skills needed) homepage landing page website that talks about my services where I offer a free strategy call as the CTA.

I'm looking to transition more towards getting clients from my website and cold email and rely less on freelancing websites.

So far have considered Wix, WordPress(seems confusing on where to start), Unbounce, Cardd(has some nice looking templates).

Thanks!

Looking for career advice. I'm 35, UK-based and a freelance copywriter who accidentally wound up in entertainment journalism, where I was promoted to Lead.

I need to GTFO of media. So far, I've been rejected from UX writing/content design roles for a very valid reason: I'm strong on the writing, weak on the UX and design. I'm also acutely aware that right at the bottom of pay brackets are "content marketer" and "copywriter", whereas "content designer" and "UX writer" can earn nearly double. Like, seriously huge gaps, there.

• I have two interviews lined up for UX writer (not senior, would mean a pay drop for me). Both have said Figma can be learned on the job - I have zero design skills. I do, however, have a good grasp of micro-copy, user thinking principles, app or button copy.
• The farthest I've gotten along in my 3-month interviewing so far has been in content marketing roles, big surprise. Awaiting a response for one role this week.
• I'm wondering if staying in that realm is getting trapped, though. Literally every booming tech startup is hiring UX.

If you were me: Would you take a pay cut and start low-level UX to work up and eventually earn more? Stay in content marketing and secure a better salary? Ummm, take what I can get?

Edit to add: Aware there might be a pro-UX bias here... I am posting in /r/uxwriting, after all.

Hello, hope everyone's doing great!

I recently started waking up at 05.00 every day. I know, this is not for everybody, but it works for me. I still usually get my 7-8 hours of sleep anyway, and I feel better than ever.

Anyway, was wondering if there were other copywriters that loved writing early in the morning. I just finished my 1st draft of a Copy Exercise, where I try to convince a cold lead to buy an eBook made for Busy Entrepreneurs, that teaches and gives a easy-to-follow guide on how to use 1-2% of your day to get in shape. This is obviously just a product I imagined (although they exist), as I want to get in the Fitness Niche.

Just wanted tos share this. I appreciate any feedback :) Probably too long of an e-mail, and could be made simpler, but as I said, this would not be the final version

The copy:

(BLURRED IMAGE OF EBOOK COVER)

Hey (NAME),

Want to get in shape using 1% to 2% of your day to workout?

I heard about you on LinkedIn.

A fellow entrepreneur myself, I can relate to your probably-very-busy schedule.

As competitive and passionate people, we often let our business take control of our lives, and it's easy to forget about other REALLY important aspects, such as our health and physique.

With such a crazy schedule, it's common to say to ourselves...

I don't have TIME to work out!

Well, let me tell you something:

You DON'T need to spend 2 hours on the gym everyday to look good. Feel good. And be healthy.

Using from LESS than 1% up to 2% of your day to workout... Consistently. You can start seeing GOOD and FAST results. That's 1 to 30 minutes of your day.

That sounds much more realistic, doesn't it?

Let's get straight to the point...

In order to help busy entrepreneurs like you to get in shape and be healthy, I made a short guide that includes all you need to take action...

• How-to Start Guide
• The Top Exercises to Do
• Step-By-Step Workout Plans

Take this guide. Read it. Follow what it says. Start seeing results. It's really as simple as that.

Knowing your busy life, I took the effort of taking all the information and making it fill only 38 pages, which will take you about 2 hours to read, if that.

All in all...

• It Won't Take Much of Your Day
• No Gym Equipment Is Needed (A Floor Will Do!)
• Start As Soon As You Have Finished Reading the Guide
• Train from Your Home or Office (or Wherever the Heck You Want!)

Not only will you start getting stronger. Looking better. Being more healthy. You'll also fe

Hi copywriters sales magicians on steroids!

I believe many of us came across this copywriting exercise -> hand-copying old hit copies.
IE: hand-copying Gary Halbert's letters etc.
Yeah in the beginning journey, it could help to a certain extent.

But, if you want to improve your copywriting skill, Robert Allen (Former copywriter for Ramit Sethi) suggested that you should adopt the styles & structures of a copy and transplant them into your own copy.
IE: If you found a hit email from David Deutsch about copywriting, and you'd like to adopt it in your finance niche copy (or any other niche copy that you have), then adapt and edit them accordingly.

That way you'll engage your brain in internalizing various copy structures.

I personally used his tricks and I enjoyed the learning process!

Robert sums up his points in this video --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju5PRloM5ok

Hey everyone, I am in my early twenties and I was trying to learn new skills that I can use on the side. I came accros copywriting and I want to learn this skill. I have a full time job that I don't really plan on leaving right now. It's just the bills are starting to pile up and I need an extra source of income to keep up and save towards my future goals and become more independent. So I want to learn how to do this on the side in my spare time at home for the time being just to get my feet wet. The problem is I am clueless as to everything that is involved in copywriting. So I just wanted some direction in how I can go about learning about copywriting and how I can go about acquiring the skills and knowledge I need to get started. Please any help or guidance will be much appreciated 😁!

Ok, so I don't think I'm the only one in this boat... or am I?

You have an idea, you build a product (great!), but your orders are low, and then realise you know next-to-nothing about marketing, sales, your actual target audience, and oh ye, copywriting.

So what lessons are most valuable when it comes to approaches in copywriting? What's recommended to a techie entrepreneur, in need of copywriting skills, and with no marketing experience?

Are you a generalist interested in marketing and e-commerce? Are you familiar with or interested in Shopify, Facebook & Google Ads, and copywriting?

If you're looking for an remote, ongoing, part-time position with a growing marketing agency I'd love to connect with you!

My name is Max and I'm a marketing freelancer. I'm transitioning my business from a one-man-show to a traditional agency. I'm looking for my first long-term hire - hopefully that's you!

I help Shopify based e-commerce businesses increase their revenue. I'm looking for someone to join the team and help me better serve my clients.

Requirements

• Proficient English
• Jack/Jill-Of-All-Trades
• Available for meetings when needed between 8:00am - 5:00pm Pacific Time (UTC-8)
• Self Starter

Ideal Experience

• Comfortable with website builders
• Shopify backend experience
• Facebook/Instagram Ads experience
• Confident writing marketing copy
• Google Ads experience
• Marketing experience/mindset

Benefits

• Make your own schedule
• Huge opportunity to learn about e-commerce
• Dynamic environment with many different jobs

Compensation is flexible, around $2,000 - $3,500/month depending on experience and workload.

The job can be fully-remote, as long as you're available during some of my working hours. I'm based in San Diego, California - if you're here that's great please let me know.

Please contact me via Reddit Chat (not messages) or email at Max@Nodland.io Please include relevant experience - bonus points for sending me a link to your favorite e-commerce company and why they're your favorite.

First time business owner here. Is there a reliable place I can get these for free? I’m actually an attorney, though I don’t practice this type of law - I’m wondering if I can draft these myself? Just want the usual/simple/ cover my bases. Thanks!

Hello everyone! I am reading Ogilvy on Advertising right now and am loving it. Does anyone have any recommendations for other books that I should read? I work in social media and marketing right now but my dream is to one day work in an advertising agency.

Hey r/startup

A couple of months ago I really got into the indie hacker space and was looking to build my own SaaS app...

The only problem was that I had no clue what to build.

I messed around with a few ideas but didn't really like them... I ended up finding this website through Product Hunt that is a marketplace like Micro Acquire/Flippa that sold smaller SaaS projects.

At least for me, this marketplace was a gold mine... Instead of going through the stress of building a startup from scratch and getting it from 0 to 1, I figured I could just focus on scaling a project that was already built out.

I ended up acquiring: Virtualghostwriter.com An app that uses GPT-3 to generate different types of copywriting like summarizing text, article writing etc.

At the time of purchase it had around 10k users and $200 MRR. I bought it for $5k

I did have to pay for a premium membership to buy the project but considering since then (July 2021) I have grown it to $1k MRR, id say it was worth it...

Don't get me wrong i've been putting in the work to get virtual ghost writer to $1k in MRR but I feel app marketplaces are a cheat code when it comes to making money from SaaS. you get access to the opportunity to buy already built out projects that are ready to be scaled, all you gotta do is put in some hard work.

The website I bought from seemed like a young platform with a ton of listings that could be gold mines...
Just thought I'd share : )

Do you think it is better to build from scratch or acquire?

I've been working in an IT firm for more than a year now. I joined there straight out of high school, barely knew anything about it. Over time I've learned so much. Although, I believe I need some online courses that can instead of telling me what to do, show me what to do. So if you guys know any courses on platforms like Udemy or any other, please let me know.

Thanks a lot in advance!

I have an idea of how much copywriters make, what to “advertising people” make (don’t know what to call you). I’m talking about mid level not senior senior.

Hi, I wrok for a few months as copywriter for a company, they are very happy with me and I work part time from home. Problem is that we use an online website to put the hours worked in, and I always find myself feeling guilty if I want to put more than the actual work snd that's only because I work too fast, what other people do in 5-7 hours I do in 2-3, I can't slow myself to type slower so even though I work a lot, I basically pay myself less.

After a task is done I have to type how many characters I wrote and how much time it took. I mostly write 5-9k in 2-5 hours, if you too, have to count the characters when you work, what's your average time per 1k?

Thanks

Hey r/indiehackers

A couple of months ago I really got into the indie hacker space and was looking to build my own SaaS app...

The only problem was that I had no clue what to build.

I messed around with a few ideas but didn't really like them... I ended up finding this website through Product Hunt that is a marketplace like Micro Acquire/Flippa that sold smaller SaaS projects.

At least for me, this marketplace was a gold mine... Instead of going through the stress of building a startup from scratch and getting it from 0 to 1, I figured I could just focus on scaling a project that was already built out.

I ended up acquiring: Virtualghostwriter.com An app that uses GPT-3 to generate different types of copywriting like summarizing text, article writing etc.

At the time of purchase it had around 10k users and $200 MRR. I bought it for $5k

I did have to pay for a premium membership to buy the project but considering since then (July 2021) I have grown it to $1k MRR, id say it was worth it...

Don't get me wrong i've been putting in the work to get virtual ghost writer to $1k in MRR but I feel app marketplaces are a cheat code when it comes to making money from SaaS. you get access to the opportunity to buy already built out projects that are ready to be scaled, all you gotta do is put in some hard work.

The website I bought from seemed like a young platform with a ton of listings that could be gold mines...
Just thought I'd share : )

Do you think it is better to build from scratch or acquire?

I'm trying to get some experience with these 3, particularily for my own knowledge and to implement into my business. I'm a pretty hands on person and don't learn too well with theory, I like seeing things in action and I have about 10-15 hours of free time a week to work on this. Should I just approach a digital marketing business owner and ask if I could shadow under them/work under them?

Which platform do you use to market your services? Do you mainly work with local businesses or international ones?

Free resources please

In this post, I will show you how to "Shortcut" your way to MASTERING Copywriting.

Facebook Ads Library allows you to see what ads are people/companies running. People are actually SPENDING money on this, this will also let you look into how long has the ad been running? This will tell you if the ad has been effective.

Big corporations hire the best of the best to get these done & you can simply "copy" and tweak it a bit.

Facebook Ads Library ( https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/ )

Once you get there, you need to find companies that are similar to yours or just look up a company that you know gets marketing right!

What do look for in the FB Ad Library?

1. Hook: What's getting people's attention

What's getting people to stop while they are scrolling FB/IG? Look at the images, look at the text, and also look at the Call To Action (CTA)

For example, to be less assertive, having a "BUY NOW" CTA could result in low Click Through Rate.

2. Landing Page: "The MEAT"

This is where all the action is happening. They have gotten people to stop the scroll and even click the ad, Now, this is where they have to try to convert you.

Some ads are targeted for their "WARM" lead, so you might straight-up see "BUY THIS BUY THAT", which does work, but more than often, you will see them trying to lead you from being "what is this" to "i want this".

You need to look for this information:

• What is their headline? Is this same as a hook on the ad?
• What is their PAIN POINT?
• What is their offer?
• What are their Claims?
• What kind of photos are there?
• Is there stories to help people visualize?
• How are they proving their claims? ( Testimonial, Before/After )
• What kind of testimonials do they have? Video? Text? Photo?
• How are they answering people's "i don't belive this " questions
• Any guarantees?
• How is the checkout process? Is it one step? multi-steps? What information are they requesting.

If you keep doing this every day at least for one product/company. You will start seeing a pattern. We human beings are very gullible. Make note of these pattern that you see, use them on your marketing.

I hope you enjoyed this post! If enough people like this, I will try to do one of these post once a week to help you guys.