Endogamous Puns

(Or any other highly genetic condition that has both pros and cons)

Have any of you have used the Leeds Method to track down family members from within an endogamous group? If so, how did it go? I am trying to help an 88-year-old adoptee identify her obviously long dead biological father. She did Ancestry and her ethnicity is 95 per cent Ashkenazi Jewish.

Hi all,

My great-grandfather was adopted the day after his birth, and I've been at a loss for how to locate his birth parents via his daughter's DNA test. The papers detailing his adoption give zero helpful details except for the town he was adopted into (and presumably born at); this makes the Leeds method pretty useless, since it's the same tiny town that all of my paternal family is from, and it's highly endogamous. No clear groupings emerge from the matches of the DNA test I have (my great-aunt/his daughter).

I also have many fewer matches to work with than on my maternal side, which includes some endogamous communities based in the US; my paternal side is Italian and (I assume) AncestryDNA is much less popular there. For comparison, my maternal great-aunt (American endogamous population) has 2,603 close matches, while my paternal great-aunt (Italian) has 517. Plus, besides her nephews who have done tests, her closest match with anyone is 143cM. She only has 4 matches between 400 and 90cM, which further rules out the Leeds method's effectiveness.

What... do I even do in this situation? I've been slowly working on finding paper trails for everyone I can possibly locate on Antenati, but since barely any matches have fleshed-out trees, I'm not sure how helpful it will be in this particular case. Should I just keep chipping away at the paper records and locate each match I can?

Thanks so much for reading!

What factors that lead religions to stop accepting new converts and have the individual to be born in to that specific religion instead?

Hi all,

I would love to know any tips some of you may have regarding figuring out your *true* relationship to someone if your family has a history of endogamy.

I have a couple of people show up quite highly in my list of DNA relatives - around 150cM, being detected as 2nd-3rd cousins. I have no idea who they are and am unable to trace their relation.

It seems that they may have connections to two main lines in my family. I have spoken with a couple of them and haven't really gotten anywhere apart from a pleasant "oh yes, I recognise those surnames but not those specific people".

I've been able to track my own family's ancestral history for a number of generations, and I don't seem to match up with these people (apart from common surnames, of course). I guess a question I have is: are these 2nd-3rd cousins likely to be a product of endogamy (even though I can't track it), or are they potential descendants of an illegitimate child?

Many thanks!

For anyone who descends from a population which was endogamous, trying to find DNA matches that correlate to your Family Tree can be extremely difficult. Anyone of Jewish ancestry or French Canadian ancestry often deal with this. I also deal with this. A few months back I was able to find a significant match of my own by focusing on the longest segments shared with matches. I contacted the person running the match's kit and we were able to come up with a hypothesis of our relation using name similarities and locations of our families in Ukraine. Recently we were able to find documentation that backed up our hypothesis and if correct, it also takes the family back to the 18th century through 5 new generations.

I also made a video detailing the research for anyone interested in learning more about it - https://youtu.be/sD2IIOpHM4s

Hi simmers! I just want to know if someone has done something close to what I've done, so here I go!

I began my game with a couple, and made them have kids. Those kids grew up, married some townies, and had more children, which eventually also grew up, married townies, and had kids. Everything goes pretty normal by now, isn't it? Well, now everything is going to get somewhat special.

Counting the founder couple as generation zero, all of the sims in generation three had married their second cousins! I mean, all of the founder's great-grandchildren married another great-grandchild in the same family. This caused some interesting facts around the family. For example, sims in generation four have the same ancestors in both parents' side (as shown in the image). But the most interesting fact is the repetition of members in the founders' family tree. Those sims in generation four appear twice.

But that's not everything! I kept playing with this family, made sims in generation three to have lots of children so I had a huge generation four, and made that generation to also marry relatives and have even more children!

By now, the population of the combined neighbourhoods is of 93 alive sims, all of them relatives, and with all of the adult sims married by relatives. Those sims are of generations three to five. Most of them appear more than once in the founders' family tree, some of them even appearing three or four times.

In order to achieve that, I've arranged a gameplay based on the teens of the family: Half of them live in the same household (called "The Abbey"), and are made to become girlfriends/boyfriends of the other half. Once they grow up, they get married, are sent to a new home, and have more kids.

And that's it! What do you think?

PD: I should show that family tree in some way. It's huge! But it doesn't fit in the same image :(

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

Do your worst!

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

It really does, I swear!

In this post, I am using the word "Creole" to refer to the small multiracial tribes which formed in marginal hinterlands — deep forested mountains and marshlands typically — throughout the Americas during the XV~XIX centuries. They each tended to be composed of some mixture of Whites of marginal or low status in the colonies, runaway slaves (Maroons), some of whom never fully de-Africanized, and Native Americans. Sometimes there was a smattering of Middle Eastern, Romani, or Pacific Island ancestry as well, depending on the location along international trade routes. These small tribes tended to be unaware of each other, each speak a distinctive creole dialect, and keep a distinctive mixed set of traditions, both spiritual and secular. They tended to be illiterate and not formally schooled, with creole dialects that were entirely unwritten. They were universally feared and shunned by White colonists, and for the most part kept to themselves. Most of these creole communities were quite wary of outsiders until recently, and were endogamous after their initial formation. Most were never numerous, their settlements tending to range in population from a few hundred to tens of thousands at any given time.

Most such Creole peoples, as I call them, have both emic and etic names that are a corruption of some language's word for "mixed": Melungeons, Maroons, Cimmarons, Seminoles, Mixtis, Santees, Jackson Whites, Lumbees, Métis, and many more. I understand that the word Creole is controversial, and varies widely in its social acceptability throughout the Americas. But I have yet to encounter a preferred catch-all term for such groups of people, who are products of the Colonial Age. Please enlighten me if you know one.

I understand "indigenous people" to be defined thusly:

1. Their nation formed in land controlled by their state, and has continually inhabited this land since before their state's control of it.
2. There is no state officially dedicated to advancing their nation's interests.

Any nation of people emically or etically called "Native Americans" or "American Indians" fits the above definition beyond question. But so do a lot of these Creole peoples. Many of these Creole peoples, even those with little or no Native American genetic input, formed as distinct ethnic groups well before July 4, 1776, on land that became part of the United States of America that day. These peoples became American citizens that day, theoretically. But I think most members of t

They’re on standbi

Pilot on me!!

Nothing, he was gladiator.

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

When I got home, they were still there.

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

I won't be doing that today!

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This morning, my 4 year old daughter.

Daughter: I'm hungry

Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

You take away their little brooms

There hasn't been a post all year!

Why

It’s pronounced “Noel.”

I already admin the AncestryDNA tests of:

• my mom
• my maternal grandmother’s sister
• my paternal grandfather
• my paternal grandmother’s sister

I don’t care enough about my personal ethnicity percentages to justify the price tag on that alone. Is there any genealogical benefit to doing a test myself when I already have results for the oldest generation I can test?

Edit: Thanks so much for your perspectives, everyone! I think I’ll wait for a sale and get myself one in order to get some more potential matches on my paternal grandmother’s side, since her father was adopted and I’ve been at a loss figuring out those DNA matches (small town, endogamous community).