I'm an avid fan of Greek mythology although preferably the Selene and Endymion myth however it's been a bit difficult within finding a book retelling that story even if it's a retelling that's modern or within a YA novel.

I've been familiar with "Daughter's Of The Moon." Which is a chapter book written by Lynne E Wing but that's all I could think of when relating to Selene's story even though it's within a prologue.

Any suggestions?

I wonder does modern Greeks could understand Ancient Greek or Italians, Spaniards or Portuguese native speakers could understand Latin?

I'm Polish and have Asperger's syndrome the only foreign language I know is British English was thought of as a foreign language in Polish schools by origination known as British Council, but now I'm sometime messing it up with the American version of English, I'm also could understand a bit of German, Czech, Russian and Ukrainian but only the spoken not Cyrillic script.

As I kid had a friend who know a bunch of other languages he had Asperger's and ADHD he was known among other things Italian, Latin, Ancient Greek and Modern Greek, as a kid I don't understand why he wants learn languages that no one uses except lawyers, priests or doctors, such as Latin ;-)

But I wonder do Greeks could understand Ancient Greek or Italians, Spaniards or Portuguese native speakers could understand Latin?

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I'm a bit of a history nerd and I wanted to ask what do the Greek people of Reddit think about the period of Greek history when Greece was ruled by the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire)?

Constantinople was the capital of the Roman Empire from 330ad-1453ad and the people living there, even up until the fall, identified themselves as Roman, not Greek. Emperor Heraclius made Greek the official language of the empire in 620ad, but it has been the lingua franca in the region ever since Alexander's times. Besides the language, the eastern empire was for all intents and purposes Roman, and the inhabitants were very adamant about that.

Starting from the 16th century (after the fall), Western historians started calling the medieval Roman Empire "Byzantine", because it did not fit with the current narrative of the Renaissance, that Europe was culturally awaking since the fall of (western) Rome, when in fact the Roman Empire thrived in Constantinople until 1453 and it was just the western countries that fell behind. And yeah also to legitimize the Holy Roman Empire's claim to the title.

A year ago a statue of Constantine XI was erected in Piraeus (see photo), but surprisingly the inscription on the base calls him a "αυτοκράτορ τόυ βυζαντινόυ", even though the real title was "βασιλεὺς καὶ αὐτοκράτωρ Ῥωμαίων" and the word "byzantine" did not exist.

Why was the emperor disrespected by engraving the wrong title?

https://preview.redd.it/k5lwbwgbtb581.jpg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d8407153665898303a530410ee5efaa7059a081

The other day someone posted a picture book with animals in a group I’m in and it seemed like some of the words were different for the animals and people were kind of skeptical of it.

What if I got a hold of some Modern Greek children’s books and flashcards, and used them for comprehensible input?

1. Would I merely miss out on some more complicated grammar constructions that are no longer used or would I be learning a lot of things the wrong way for ancient Greek that I would have to unlearn later?

2. Is the number of differences small enough to where I could just watch and remind myself, “Ok these couple things I should know are different.”, or are the differences too great and I should not do this?

3. Is the answer different at different times? Would it be better to use materials from before 1976 or maybe 1982?

4. Could I watch movies with Greek subtitles and mute the English or Greek? Or would this have too much slang and modern informal speech and not be that helpful?

Note: A Imagine I select them so that neither features modern technology although I think it would be quite useful to learn these things anyway. B Imagine the flashcards are not on numbers which I realize are different from ancient Greek numbers.

My goals are reading golden age literature and plays and the Bible including the Septuagint. I hope this does not offend anyone but I am not able to travel and am not interested in learning modern Greek or modern pronunciation.

Like for example if a Greek person had to read say Homer's The Illiad or they had to read the Septuagint in ancient greek for class in college for example. How well could they understand it?

Thanks! :)

I find it hard to believe that the early church didn’t adopt parts of the local Greco-Roman culture in order to appear more palatable to the local pagan populations.

Also, as a side note, does anyone else find it strange that there are only a handful of prophets in the Old Testament, but it seems like there is a saint for everything once you got into the era of the New Testament?

We are taught to understand the Ancient Greeks as having understood some immutable truths and all civilisation today is almost working off of their foundation.

But I cant find much concise material on what exactly they did that was so influential that the whole world is based off of their ideas.

Can anyone explain this?

I just finished reading 'A Touch of Darkness', by Scarlett St. Clair, and I really liked the worldbuilding! I loved the idea of Greek gods walking around Earth in an era like this, kind of acting and looking human-like. Does anybody know any other book that has that? Doesn't need to be so centered in romance, it would be awesome for it to be an actual Fantasy book!

I'm using the first one, it has a retro look and really objective lessons, also the author still working on it and responds to the feedback pretty fast.

An Introduction to Modern Greek by J. David Eisenberg

http://www.langintro.com/greek/index.html

Learn Greek Online is a course provided by Kypros-Net in collaboration with the CyBC to teach the modern Greek language online.

http://www.kypros.org/LearnGreek/index.php?lang=en_utf8

Are there any good textbooks in modern Greek to learn Ancient Greek as an adult? The reason I say "adult" is that there are, of course, the Ancient Greek resources/books that middle school and high school students use. But, these are designed for learning in an academic year scale...

There are, apparently, some people who think Ancient Greek was pronounced the same as Modern Greek, and I'd genuinely like to hear how they explain the following:

Why did the ancient Greeks invent six different spellings ι η υ ει οι υι for the same sound, and consistently use spell the same word with the same spelling?

Why did the Romans transliterate φ as <ph> when they already had a perfectly good letter <f>?

How did ancient poets write in length-based meter if ο and ω have always had the same sound?

Why did the ancient Greeks invent three different accent marks if Greek has always had a stress accent like it does today? Similarly why did they invent the smooth and rough breathings if they were never pronounced differently?

Why was the sound of sheep bleating transcribed as βῆ βῆ?

Who would win the battle?

The Phoenicians seem to be one of the most influential people of the Mediterranean world; yet they lack a sense of art or unique architecture in my opinion (compared to the Greeks and Romans). Is it just survival bias, where what survived of their civilization isn’t great to our eyes?

Χρησιμοποιώντας το Eurogenes G25 admixture calculator έφτιαξα αυτά τα γενετικά μοντέλα. I've made these DNA models using the Eurogenes G25 admixture calculator. https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

Ancient DNA samples used / Αρχαία δείγματα DNA που χρησιμοποιήθηκαν: https://pastebin.com/UJTNpxtN

The ancient DNA samples are extracted from ancient graves/bones etc. Τα αρχαία δείγματα DNA τα παίρνουν από αρχαίους τάφους/οστά/δόντια κλπ.

Μπορείτε να βρείτε τον αριθμό κάθε δείγματος DNA εδώ:
https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25ancient-scaled.htm.
Για παράδειγμα, αν ψάξετε για "Mycenaean" στον παραπάνω σύνδεσμο, λάβετε τον αριθμό ενός από τα δείγματα που είναι "I9041" και ψάξετε το στο google τότε θα βρείτε αυτό το επιστημονικό άρθρo από κάτω.
--> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5565772/

You can search for the ID's of each DNA sample here:
https://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/G25ancient-scaled.htm.
For example if you search for "Mycenaean" on the link above, get the id of one of the samples which is "I9041" and google it then you will find this scientific paper below.
--> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5565772/

BA = Bronze Age, IA = Iron Age, EMA = Early Middle Ages.

Target: Andreas Greek_Cypriot (Individual)
Distance: 1.0053% / 0.01005284 | ADC: 0.5x RC
40.0 Greek_Mycenaean_BA
33.4 Levant_BA
26.6 Anatolia_BA

Target: Greek_Cypriot (Some Cypriots average who gave me their G25 coordinates)
Distance: 1.0071% / 0.01007112 | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Aegean_BA (24.8% Mycenaean , 14.4% Helladic_North_MBA
38.0 Levant_BA
22.8 Anatolia_BA

Target: Greek_Cypriot
Distance: 0.8762% / 0.00876215 | ADC: 0.5x RC
44.6 Levant_BA
31.6 Aegean_BA (19.6% Greece_North, 12% Mycenaean)
23.8 Anatolia_BA

Target: Golifa Turk_Cypriot (Individual)
Distance: 1.8445% / 0.01844549 | ADC: 0.25x
34.0 Levant_BA
33.4 Greek_Mycenaean_BA
22.4 Anatolia_BA
5.2 BedouinA_Arab_North_Modern
3.0 Early_Slav_EMA
2.0 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Distance: 1.0118% / 0.01011819 | ADC: 0.25x
34.6 Balkan_BA_IA
34.6 Greece_North_BA
19.8 Levant_BA
11.0 Early_Slav_EMA

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Distance: 0.9747%
42.4 Greece_North_BA
21.6 Anatolia_BA
20.2 Balkan_BA_IA
14.2 Early_Slav_EMA
1.6 Turkic_West_and_Ottoman

Target: **

in all my research of modern books about greek mythology i’ve never been able to find any that are by an author who is greek (available in english). any recommendations? i would love to see the myths from the perspective of someone who is greek themself.

I’m using a self-study course to learn Modern Greek (DLI Greek- developed by the US military during the Cold War), and there audio drills with accompanying text at the end of every chapter to practise what I’ve learnt eg. grammar and vocabulary.

After about 30 chapters, I’ve realised that I’m able to identify words and chunks of text when they pop up in dialogues in chapters, but I’m unable/struggling to come up with sentences of my own.

Here’s how each chapter goes-

15-17 sets of grammar “preparation” drills to get familiarised with the content that will be introduced subsequently (with accompanying audio)

2 sets of dialogue with accompanying audio

a few pages of grammar notes

15-17 sets of grammar exercises to reinforce what I have learnt

I know that these drills are beneficial (in theory, they’re supposed to be), because they are repetitive and that (supposedly) helps to automate the thought process. However, they are very long (raw audio is 30min-1h audio drills for each chapter, but I know that I will pause frequently if the audio is too fast or if I have to look up something- the course has almost 100 chapters), and combined with dialogue audio and grammar notes at the start , I will take about 1-2 years to finish the course. I would take 1-3 days to finish a single chapter. It’s like sitting in a classroom and watching other students play during break time while I’m having classes.

On the other hand, I really want to catch up with polyglots and other people. I see people on YouTube having conversations in Greek (search- Luca Lampariello) and I feel very sad that I’m so far away from achieving that goal, so I feel like speedrunning the course even though I know it may not be the best course of action, so all I do is listen to the first 2 dialogues and read the grammar notes and skip to the next chapter without doing any drills

I could use a little help. You can look up the course if you want to get an idea of what it’s like.

I need help

I am a native speaker of Hindi (know Marathi too) and also have fluency in both Classical & Vedic Sanskrit. In University, I studied some Greek (Ancient) and later on picked up some Modern Greek while visiting Greece. I realized that Modern Greek is much more conservative than either Hindi or Marathi. Why is this so?

A few things that came to my head. We cannot possibly say it is because Greek is a prestige language of literature and Greeks constantly "re-Hellenized" their vocabulary by say imitating prestige registers (Atticism) because the exact same thing applies to Sanskrit and happened in India. Greek and Sanskrit have been the languages of liturgy and literature of a specific civilizational region for 2000+ years. So their role here is similar.

Now why is Modern Greek so much more faithful to Koine or even Attic compared to Hindi or Marathi vs Sanskrit? Is it because India has maybe more people so there was more variation in speech (evident by so many different branches of the Indo Aryan family) while Hellenic today has only Tsakonian as another branch/variant.

in all my research of modern books about greek mythology i’ve never been able to find any that are by an author who is greek (available in english). any recommendations? i would love to see the myths from the perspective of someone who is greek themself.