in real life Texas has 130 million acres of arable land while another country of similar size France has 70 million acres but in game France has 1113 units of arable land while Texas only has 36
even if you take into account that at game start the republic of Texas does not control all of modern Texas they should have at least more than a 30th of of France's arable land
I just hope this is not a symptom of a much larger problem where countries with low state densities like the us or china are screwed over on resources
P.S. sorry if this post comes off as overly hostile I am not very good at putting my thoughts into writing
Substance buildings can only appear on arable land, so what happens if a province has no arable land? Will everyone there just either migrate or die?
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Ed makes a claim along these lines at least once in the InfoWars debate.
The FAO definition for arable land is land under temporary agricultural crops (multiple-cropped areas are counted only once), temporary meadows for mowing or pasture, land under market and kitchen gardens and land temporarily fallow (less than five years).
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Of the earth's 57 million square miles (148,000,000 km²) of land,
approximately 12 million square miles (31,000,000 km²) is arable.
https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/a/Arable_land.htm
Land required: 1.8 acres per cow
1 acre = 0.0015625 square mile
https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb1167344.pdf
(57,000,000 sq mi / 0.0028125 sq mi)
= 20,266,666,666 cows ~ = 20 billion cattle possible
The world cattle inventory in 2020 was reported at 987.5 million head (about 1 billion).
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In 2018, there were some 23.7 billion chickens in the world. - Statista
2.5 acres for every thousand birds - Google (not good source, but just seeing...)
23,700,000,000 * (2.5 acres) / 1000 = 9,480,000 acres needed for 2018 free range bird production (in 2018)
9,480,000 acres = 14812.5 sq mi
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1 billion cattle = 2,812,500 sq mi
23.7 billion birds = 14,813 sq mi
So it seems, given 2020 cattle and 2018 bird production, 24% of the arable land in the world (2,827,313/12,000,000) meets the "current" consumption of animal products. (Assume the other animals need less land to be raised open range.)
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This back-of-the envelope calculation seems to show there is enough arable land to meet the current consumption of animal products. What I did not consider, besides assuming the other land animals require less than 76% of the arable land, is (1) what proportion of arable land we use for crops: corn, grapes (vineyards), human soy, other beans, etc etc etc. (2) What proportion of grasslands make up and should be conserved.
The majority of the comments from my previous post on this was about deleterious environmental effects. I agree. But I just want to keep it exclusively about the claim. I want to credibly state "there is not enough arable land to support grass fed beef consumption."
And if so, where? I’m budgeting ~$3,000 per acre max burn of $40K
Ideally 10 acres for ag exemption and such, shipping container / yurt home
Apologies if permaculture isn't the right category.
We know that apparently in each state there is a limited amount of arable land, which starts as space for subsistence farms, and can be converted to larger proper and more efficient farms. This system sounds great, and like a great way to transition subsistence economies which do not interact much with the wider market, to greatly interconnected markets.
However im wondering if the arable land is static and can't change. I would understand that in some places like mostly arable states like northern France, it would not make much sense to change it, however I wonder if there should be a change in places where previously non-arable land has been converted into arable land by use of infrastructure and better technologies. I have no idea how much of an effect this actually had, but im willing to bet that there were some land that were previously unfarmable for diverse reasons that might have changed with new crops, powered irrigation, etc.
I’m inheriting 10 acres of land outside of Windsor, ON. My grandmother had an informal arrangement with the neighbouring farm where they farmed her land for her. The money that brought in basically covered her property tax and some bills.
Apart from hopefully breaking even on the property and holding on to it as an investment, is there anything else I could consider doing with the land?
Hello. I hope it's appropriate for me to ask this here. The question is in the title. I have zero farming knowledge beyond “plant, water, wait. I've heard humans have used fire to make arable land since forever.
Are the wildfires doing the same thing on a mass scale?
in the early Holocene the Sahara experienced monsoon rains from the Atlantic, making the area much greener than today. 7000 to 5000 years ago climate change caused the winds to change and the monsoons stopped coming.
Suppose the Earth's climate went back into a similar climate period during the early Hellenistic period, what would that mean for the civilisations based in North Africa?
Local news source. TL/DR: A local farm/ranch dynasty got busted in a big-time fraud, lost the land to bankruptcy, and tscc swooped in like the vultures they are to snap it up in auction. (Outbidding Bill & Melinda Gates, btw.)
Heard this on the radio earlier: "LDS lawyers were smiling as they left the bankruptcy court..." Yeah, just mull that phrase over for a minute. That's totally not evil, right? To revel in profiting off of someone else's crime and misfortune...totally...not...evil...
And, serious question, just wtf do they actually do with all those food crops and beef cattle? I know for a fact that it isn't simply charitable donations or whatever. How tf are they getting away with this?
/endrant, feel free to discuss.
Something I am interested in is how population and arable land will work. For example, at 1836 the usa and china had roughly equal amounts of arable land, however, china had about 400 million people while the usa only had about 16 millions people, a more than 20 fold difference. Will the usa have a bunch of empty peasant jobs, or will China's subsistence buildings provide more jobs? Will not all of America's farmland open up until certain inventions are made, or will something else happen. or will the large amount of unused arable land be used, for example, will the large amount of open jobs in the usa encourage immigration? I do wonder how the developers will work that out.
On one of the maps, i saw something called "arable land". Will there be irrigation projects and swamp draining projects to make more?
How are your crops doing during this nightmare drought in crypto?
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Any Thai history/anthropology buffs in here?
Geographically, one would expect Thailand to have the dominant population centers, being that Thailand occupies a large expanse of arable plains in Mainland Southeast Asia. Vietnam's population on the other hand, is confined to the coast, and the plains of the Red River Delta surrounding Hanoi, and the plains of the Mekong River Delta surrounding Saigon. Satellite view also shows how much land in Thailand has been developed for agriculture.
Despite this, Thailand's current population is capping at around 70M, while Vietnam is already above 100M. 1900 population estimates Siam to have had around 7M people, while the French territories of Vietnam totalled to around 13M, all before these two countries significantly industrialized. This leads me to speculate that there is something at play here. I also want to add Cambodia in the 1900 scenario because it only had 1M people as opposed to Cochinchina's (Southern Vietnam) 3M at the time.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_in_1900)
I guess this also opens up the issue of Thai population imbalance and the heavy concentration around Bangkok, which is 26x larger than the 2nd biggest city (explored in Why Thailand's Geography Breeds Instability). Which is odd, again, because one would expect a more spread out population with all their arable land.
Can anyone give me some advice on how much land I would need for an arable only (just veg etc no animals apart from maybe chickens) smallholding in the UK which would be designed to feed a small community of around 15 people? Ideally it would produce enough to feed the community during the growing season (with some bought in extras) and also have a bit left over to sell in a shop/veg boxes.
How are your crops doing during this nightmare drought in crypto?
Here at Arable.fi our crops are green! One week of sowing seed and watering, we are now seeing lots of sprouts of joy!
7 days into sowing seed and we are still holding at very near day 5 ATH.
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