Psychodynamic Diagnostic Manual Puns

I have just started looking into it and it seems somewhat helpful, at least for a beginner like me, I find that it offers some useful guidlines in terms of diagnosing.
Most psychoanalysts in my country are against any taxonomic classifications though, and I would like to hear some of your opinions on the subject.

The psychodynamic diagnostic manual (a diagnostic manual mainly used by psychoanalytics) includes a description in schizoid children. How much do you think this described you as a child?

"Although they may also crave relationships, schizoid children and adolescents have a pervasive pattern of detachment from social relationships and have a very restricted range of expression of emotions in interpersonal settings. They seem to avoid social interactions very actively and are seen by others as loners. In contrast to avoidant and constricted children, who may be likeable and popular, they have few or no friends. Either because of a severe inhibition or lack of social skills, schizoid children cannot spontaneously interact appropriately with others. When asked about their withdrawals, they may assert that others do a variety of ills to them. Clinical experience suggests that they may have learned to fear the negative consequences of their need for love."

Mr. Girl used the "statistical" in DSM to add weight to his idea that "all pathology is a statistical extension of normal human experience", that everyone is everything to some degree and that the DSM is only concerned with abnormality on that spectrum. Destiny tentatively conceded that point to him but that's not what it means and that's not their stance.

The word "statistical" merely refers to the fact that the DSM was initially created to collect statistics on the prevalence of different conditions.

Using "spectrum" and "binary" can also get misleading if it's done imprecisely. The words are opposites so people dance around using them together but they don't conflict when they each apply to a separate idea. It's easy to start talking around each other if you're not anal about what is meant exactly. A condition's presentation can be a spectrum while its applicability is still binary. There's the autism spectrum for example, that doesn't mean we're all somewhat autistic.

(If you're reading this you are autistic though, sorry.)

I really enjoyed their conversations and hope they revisit both subjects they covered in the future. They have a better sense of where their disagreements lie now so a little preparation should allow for more great conversations. It looks like they found someone who can change their mind in each other and it's exciting to see that someone could actually finish a conversation with a different view.

Is this a type of marketing ?

If disorder means identity > does identity equal un-conscious dsm salesperson ?

Is this all a way for the dsm to reproduce itself in everyone's life ?

How do therapists combat this ?

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Not sure this is appropriate to post here, as it's somewhat self disclosing and personal, but I'm not asking for personal analysis—more about how to talk theory with others. I hope that's okay.

I was wondering if y'all had some thoughts on this. I'm taking a class at a community college on child development, and it's a little painful how simplified (and generally dismissive) the prof is with these theories and Freud. I understand it, as I was there once, but I was wondering if anyone had tips on approaching this, or if it's a somewhat lost-cause situation. They've been teaching this class for 20+ years and have a PhD in psych (so they're more on the academic end).

What approaches have y'all found to be the most effective?

Thanks!

EDIT: Thank you for all of the perspectives y'all have brought here! I so appreciate that this community exists. It's really nice to not feel alone in this.

I think that "Delusional Disorder" should be removed and I will make a short explanation to why.

What is diagnosis of separated "Delusional Disorder"?

I don't think that delusions can exist without hallucinations.

I believe that hallucinations has to always exist in order for there to be delusions.

It's a rare diagnosis of psychosis where doctors think you have fixed, false belief without hallucinations, but I find that to be not true and that there must be some kind of hallucinations in order for there to be delusions.

Some of the nicest folks I know are really into heavy metal and that made me wonder of how one could approach the commonplace that dealing with one's aggression in such a 'sublimized' way (headbanging, moshpitting, or just delving in the fantasy-world of metal lyrics, etc.) from a psychoanalytical/psychodynamic perspective. What do you think? Do you know any texts about this topic? Thanks!

I know I should probably tell her, and I guess I will - but right now I feel like this has completely ruined our relationship and I’m not sure what can be done to fix it. I’ve been seeing this T for two years twice a week and she has helped me a lot, but right now I feel very much betrayed, like I can’t trust her or her empathy… I also feel a lot of shame regarding how hard I have taken the news, I’ve been crying all morning and feel pretty much devastated… Has anyone ever gone through something similar with their T? Can it be fixed?? Any advice on how to proceed?

I’ve just had a few sessions with my T. I struggle with lower case t childhood trauma, adhd, loneliness, not being as assertive as I would like etc.

Just wondering what it’s really like. We are still in the get to know me phase and I’ve had about 3 sessions. I’ve experienced ACT before but didn’t find it to be super helpful.

I've noticed that there's a strong tendency to talk about bad experiences with CBT on Reddit, both on and off this sub. And psychodynamic therapy tends to be talked about more positively. In most subs, including psychiatry-critical ones, it's pretty common for people to talk like psychodynamic therapy is the greatest thing, and the solution to all problems in therapy is to find a psychodynamic therapist who is warm and shows empathy.

I worked with a therapist who leaned heavily on psychodynamic methods, had very warm mannerisms, did mirroring and appropriate body language and responses to show empathy, and tried to be validating, and her methods really messed me up. Part of the issue was that she wasn't doing anything obvious enough for me to go "Oh yeah, it's logical that I hate being here and feel so bad after talking to her and the things she says leave me more of a mess." And that makes it weird to see her approach praised, and to have people assume that bad therapy must have involved CBT (which I tried to get, but she wasn't very interested and let it drop after a few worksheets. I think she wanted to feel like she was healing people with kindness, and something that concrete didn't fit her interests or self-image, so she was looking for an excuse to stop.) Consequently I was wondering if other people had similar bad experiences with psychodynamic therapy they could share.

(If you want to vent about CBT, or about therapists that were not warm or didn't try to show empathy, please don't do that on this post. Thank you.)

In my attempt to overcoming social anxiety I have passed upon two ways of treating the disorder.

So some CBT doctors say that there is no point in exploring the cause of the problem; If we would spend one hour a week rehashing all of your anxiety, fears and related depression of the past, all we would be reinforcing is this anxiety fear and depression. By dwelling on our problems and analyzing it, we would be making our problems worse.

While in psychodynamic therapy you are focusing on rout cause problems by analyzing traumatic past expiriences. That doctors say that there is no point in dealing with the surface level problems because they are not going to be permanently stoped since they are just a consequence of the core problem. And if we don't go over our traumas and causes that created core belifes, negative thoughts will keep coming up.

I know that there are more studies that show that CBT works, but I know how frustrating is to deal with thoughts as they come up, and psychodynamic in a way also makes sence to me.

I think that doubt between these two ways is keeping me from making progress. In your opinion, which is better to deal with social anxiety? If you stand for both, should I focus on one at a time or maybe go simultaneously and combine them?

Thank you!

We all know this unpleasant feeling when someone does or says something that make us shudder inside out of shame. Common sense explanation would be that it has to do something with self disgust being projected on another person, but well, that's just common sense. I wonder what real pychodynamic approach has to say on this. If you know any literature related to that subject, please recommend it.

Edit:Aaand sorry for all disappointed people

I'm 28, female, I was diagnosed with depression 8 years ago but from my recollection – I felt that way since I was around 12 and lost hope for "there must be some mistake, those cannot be my real parents, someone will come and take me from them and love me".

I feel like I should bring some wide view on my situation to avoid implementing any fixed perspective on the latest part of the post... Sorry – it's long, I know. I would appreciate any insight on this – because the main problem is I don't trust my own judgment.

I have been in individual CBT therapy for a year and in an interdisciplinary group therapy for a year and a half. I think the most work I have done was developing any form of my own identity at all and learning where my personality "ends" and the depression "begins". Both therapies had been helpful to some degree but not completely. I've been taking antidepressants for 8 years now (different meds) and those aren't working completely either. During lat 8 years I had 5 months episode when I didn't feel symptoms of depression at all.

Currently, I'm struggling, again, with an episode of major depression. I am used to moderate dysthymia or anhedonia and many psychosomatic health issues but now It's about 6 months of "full" depression which is impossible to get used to. I have also significant social anxiety and cognitive problems which caused me to fail really badly at so many tasks at work it's a problem for the whole company. Because of those symptoms, I also failed to fill up some papers at my University and I was expelled due to that "neglect"... It's impossible for me to not beat myself up because of those failures... And I am unable to function normally in day-to-day life (shopping, cleaning, hygiene, eating etc.). I am almost completely socially isolated and I have no one to pull me out of this misery for a time of a conversation or watching a movie together. I have, though, two close friends who are in a worse state of mental health than I am...

There is also a new component of my depression I can't cope with: I have never in my life felt so much anger. It's about "everything and nothing", it has no direction and I have no idea how to deal with it. I wake up in the morning and I moan like a wild animal – I'm helpless with that feeling of anger... Someone calls me on the phone and I find myself yelling at that person without any reason. I am also very tense, all the time – it's impossible for me to relax.

The other thing that is diff

In my attempt to overcoming social anxiety I have passed upon two ways of treating the disorder.

With Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy you are noticing that you are having negative thoughts and feelings related to an anxiety producing situation, and challenging and letting go of them. So some CBT doctors say that there is no point in exploring the cause of the problem; If we would spend one hour a week rehashing all of your anxiety, fears and related depression of the past, all we would be reinforcing is this anxiety fear and depression. By dwelling on our problems and analyzing it, we would be making our problems worse.

While in psychodynamic therapy you are focusing on rout cause problems by analyzing traumatic past expiriences. That doctors say that there is no point in dealing with the surface level problems because they are not going to be permanently stoped since they are just a consequence of the core problem. And if we don't go over our traumas and causes that created core belifes, negative thoughts will keep coming up.

I know that there are more studies that show that CBT works, but I know how frustrating is to deal with thoughts as they come up, and psychodynamic in a way also makes sence to me.

I think that doubt between these two ways is keeping me from making progress. In your opinion, which is better to deal with social anxiety? If you stand for both, should I focus on one at a time or maybe go simultaneously and combine them?

Thank you!