Affray Puns

So, now we know how the full game went, figured I'd do a post laying out all the moves and trying to work out what it all means.

 

Affray 1

Bard: Strength = Mirror Knight

Cat: Emperor = Hakram

Bard: The Devil = Violence

Cat concedes the affray and takes the Emperor card back, but Bard shows her The Moon = Maddened Keeper first.

 

Affray 2

Bard: The Tower = Red Axe/Destruction of the Terms?

Cat: The Chariot = Kingfisher Prince

Bard: The Magician (via cheating, Cat had the real one) = whoever cast the illusion? Hunted Magician I guess.

Cat: Justice = Repentant Magister

Bard concedes the affray and picks up The Tower.

 

Affray 3

Bard: The Hermit = Fallen Monk

Cat: The Lovers = Archer

Bard: Temperance = The Blessed Artificer

Cat: The Magician = Edit: Probably Roland, rather than Masego, as I initially thought.

This one is never resolved because Cat ends the game here.

 

Affray 4

Bard: The Empress = Cordelia

Bard: The Tower (that she picked up from Affray 2) = the same thing as before?

Bard, by 'accident', after dying: Judgement (came from her sleeve, so also a fake) = ????

 

Affray 5

Cat: Judgement = The Concocter?

Cat: Emperor (that she got back from Affray 1) = Hakram again, probably

 

So, what do we think about the unknown cards?

Hi, two senarios

(A) Group of 5 plus people throwing things at windows and smashing up property - would you arrest and charge for Affary or criminal damage for each of the persons caught?

(B) Group of 5 plus people fighting amongst themselves, smashing property, would you arres each for Affray? or violent disorder? and further arrest for criminal damage.

I understand public order, its application sometimes confuses me.

Hi! Policing student here, a little bit lost regarding the difference. It sounds like affray covers both verbal assault and battery?

I asked my mate who is (somewhat newly) police staff and even he’s a bit confused.

Thanks!

Like in a jRPG

Hello all. Things are starting to get interesting. Particularly regarding the game Catherine and the Bard are playing, and the way that their game reflects (or shapes, or is being mutually shaped by) the conflict in the Arsenal. And so, I am making two posts on the subject.

The purpose of this post is to lay out and discuss the rules and strategies for the game of Affray itself.

The purpose of my other post is to discuss the likely moves made both in the game and in the conflict.

<Edited, because I think I was wrong about the basic way the game works.>

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The rules of this game of Affray seem to be as follows:

• Both players start with 7 cards in hand. (stated by Bard)
• There are 5 affrays available at all times. (stated by Bard)
• On each player's turn, they must add one card from their hand to their side of one of the affrays. (Stated by Cat)
• Card values are additive on each side of an affray. (Stated by Cat)
• When a player places down a card, they draw one from the remaining deck. (stated by Bard)
• A player may may concede a point to their opponent, take a card they played from an affray and add it back to their hand, and clear the cards in that affray. (stated by Cat)
• The player with the most points at the end of the game wins. (Stated by Cat)

Rules we do not yet know:

• When does the game end? (Does it end when the deck empties? or when one player empties their hand? or when there are no possible moves left? or the first to reach some point total?)
• When the game reaches the end, what happens to contested affrays? (Do you get bonus points for the affrays you have the advantage in? or are they ignored?)
• Does conceding a point end your turn? (Probably not, but it isn't stated anywhere that you keep going.)
• Is the Fool a trump card? (The Fool can be either card 0 or card 22 in the set of major arcana.)

Implications for strategy:

• When you win an affray, you want to win by the smallest margin possible.
• When you lose an affray, you want to only lose small cards. Which means you only want one big card in each affray if you can help it.
• It may be optimal to concede a point or two early on, to have a card advantage on your opponent. The more cards you have to work with, the more efficiently you will probably be able to play.
• You want to maintain a large variety in your card values if you can, so you can r

This is my 2nd post about the game of Affray. The purpose of this post is to discuss the likely moves made both in the game and in the conflict.

The purpose of my other post is to lay out and discuss the rules and strategies for the game of Affray itself.

Also, thanks to u/derivative_of_life for creating a comprehensive list of named who are currently inside of the Arsenal. You can find it here. I expect it will be useful for theory crafting.

I will update this post as the game progresses.

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The moves made thus far are:

Affray 1:

• B(ard): Fortitude (11 or 8)

>The Mirror Knight,” the Intercessor said. “Lost and angry and feeling it all slip away from his grasp. He’ll take up the sword because it fixes all he despises about himself.

• C(at): The Emperor (4)

>“The Adjutant,” the Black Queen said. “Faith with a cold eye, patience without hesitation. He will steer them all away from the rocks, because it is in his nature to mend what is broken.”

Affray 2:

• B: The Tower (16)

>“Ruin onto your Truce and Terms,” the Intercessor said. “The Red Axe slain in blind revenge, heroes and villains at each other’s throats beyond what can be mended.”

• C: The Chariot (7)

>“The Kingfisher Prince,” the Black Queen said. “Alamans iron forged in a Lycaonese forge, daring with duty holding the reins. Authority and trust, crowns earthly and not.”

Affray 3:

• B: The Hermit (9)

>“Fear and treason, conspiracy,” the Intercessor said. “Your fishing rod of crowns untouched but the fisherman drowned by the tide anyway. The Hierophant, slain.”

• C: The Lovers(6)

>“Archer,” Catherine Foundling said, her voice clear as a frozen pond, fury gone cold. “Love like greed and feet unrelenting – Gods have mercy on whoever you sent after him, because she will make them into meat.”

Affray 4:

Affray 5:

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I'm not sure I understand the

I would have posted in this one if I could... https://www.reddit.com/r/policeuk/comments/8nu0w9/affray_help_a_confused_probie/

Blackstone + an NCALT video I've seen clearly state that there are 3 parties involved in an affray:

- the individual making the threats

- the person subject to the threats

- at least one bystander

Now, the bystander bit is further explained as, "at least one bystander MUST be present at the scene. The remote possibility of a bystander arriving at the scene to witness the conduct is insufficient. However, no person of reasonable firmness need actually be, or likely to be, present at the scene." (Blackstone's)

This reads to me as, yes, the person of reasonable firmness does not need to be present but someone, other than the two involved in the altercation, HAS to witness the incident.

THEN you've got the statement below and even my previous staff saying that a witness need not be present.

"As long as two people are involved and the conduct could cause a person of reasonable firmness to fear violence then the offence is complete.

If it's witnessed by a MOP then it's easy to prove..if not then it's difficult to prove but just comes down to officer statements, injuries, location etc"

So, please explain it to me like I'm 5, what am I missing?

Thanks