A 21-year-old man has been captured in southwest Georgia, hours after eight people were killed in shootings at three Atlanta-area massage parlors.
Cherokee County sheriff’s Capt. Jay Baker said [SUSPECT NAME REDACTED] of Woodstock, Georgia, was taken into custody in Crisp County on Tuesday night, about 150 miles (240 kilometers) south of Atlanta.
In all appears to be 8 victims, and seems to be majority Asian women.
Update (1): Appears to be 6 Asian women dead, 1 white woman and 1 white man dead, and 1 white man still in hospital injured. Motive still unknown.
Update (2): >"Remember: Police have not yet offered a motive in the bloody attacks, but because six of the eight victims were Asian women, some public officials and organizations have raised concerns that ethnicity came into play. Tuesday's shootings also come against a backdrop of an increase in violence against Asian Americans nationwide."
Update (3): > "The police said on Wednesday that the gunman who shot and killed eight people at massage parlors in the Atlanta area on Tuesday indicated that he had a “sexual addiction” and may have targeted spas that he had visited in the past.
>The police said the gunman claimed that he had not targeted the victims, six of whom were Asian, because of their race, but they cautioned that it was too early in the investigation to be sure that there wasn’t a racial motivation.
>“He does claim that it was not racially motivated,” Capt. Jay Baker of the Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office said. “He apparently has an issue, what he considers a sex addiction.”
>Mr. Baker added that he saw the spas as “a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate.”"
>He was stopped after his parents alerted the police that they believed their son might be the suspect, and the police were able to track his phone.
>“He made indicators that he has some issues, potentially sexual addiction, and may have frequented some of these places in the past,” said Sheriff Frank Reynolds of Cherokee County."
Sources here: > https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/3-dead-shooting-georgia-massage-parlor-suspect-loose-n1261262 > > https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/16/us/metro-atlanta-shootings/index.html
Updated Articles:
>(1) https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/spa-killings-atlanta-cherokee/85-d8b55ae6-d3e5-44d2-975c-6334bcd27633
> (2) https://www.cnn.com/us/l
... keep reading on reddit ➡First rule of Fight Club: no hobbyist-on-hobbyist crime. So I'll be on my best behavior and not come off as condescending.
I'm directing this post at u/heyyou510 after his excellent and exhaustively resourceful post Massage parlors 101. But anyone who frequents massage parlors can hop into the discussion.
Respectfully I begin by saying, to each his own. Yet as a hobbyist who uses only escorts for my philandering, seeing that both camps are after the same thing, I've got some questions and head-scratchers. 🤨🤔😑
To begin, the crux of my argument is why go to massage parlors when you can book escorts.
I've had some great exchanges with 1 or 2 guys on here who have made the case for parlors. But frankly, the vast majority of commentators on Reddit leave me with a low estimation of the whole massage parlor scene. For reference, let's take the typical post on r/happyendingmassage.
The MP/AMP community is huge so I know there are plenty of you with opinions and personal experiences. Don't be shy. Let's begin with these:
(1) The number one thing that baffles me about visiting MPs is having to be coy about requesting sexual favors, and it being so clandestine. I'm referring to the whole "brush your hand on her thigh" or when she brushes her hand on your thigh, or taking off your towel on the flip to give her a hint. And there are entire tutorials on how to give a hint. Ummm... Like... Why??? Why not just book someone for sex from the offset?
(2) Next to it is having to tip-toe into a parlor. This is especially because they're in strip malls with business all around and tons of people in the parking lot. Most people know what you're REALLY there for. Your walk of shame begins in the parking lot as you approach the venue. What's worse is truly going in for only a massage but having people THINK you went in for sexual favors. Worse still, MPs are only open during the daytime so you likely have to do this in broad daylight. Note: This is nowhere near the same as walking up to a hotel or motel room to visit an escort.
(3) Who wants ONLY a handjob? To go through all that effort mentioned in the previous 2 points only for a handjob and not full service?
(4) Is the handjob-only rule something to do with being married or having a significant other? Do guys see this as not cheating? Is it for the sake of the guy's conscience? Or do they have an agreement wit
... keep reading on reddit ➡The lockdown is starting to ease where I live so 2 weeks ago I decided to go to a local massage parlor. I don't know anyone in the city I live in yet and foolishly thought this would relieve the loneliness of being isolated for the last year.
During the massage, the provider asked me if I wanted extras, which I agreed to. I assumed this meant a hand job, however I got more than I bargained for. She got on top of me and started to have sex with me. I stopped this after about 10 seconds. She then proceeded to dry hump me until I came. Some of the semen got on her vagina. She quickly went to the shower to wash it off. I'm kicking myself for letting this happen, it all happened so fast.
Since the event I have been so anxious. First, that I may have caught an STD. I had an HIV RNA test done after 12 days which is 99.9% accurate, it came back negative which has relieved some of the anxiety. I am still waiting for the appropriate window periods to pass so that I can get the other STD tests. Second I am anxious that the provider may have got pregnant. It is unlikely as she looked to be in her late 40s but still a possibility.
I have so much shame and anxiety that I have been unable to function at my job. I have started relying on xanax/alcohol to get me through the day and to be able to sleep.
I am trying to work up the courage to go back to the massage parlor to speak to the provider and find out if there is any chance she could pregnant. I feel like if she told me she was on birth control this would at least relieve that part of the anxiety. I am also hoping that if the next set of STD results are negative then that will help me rest further.
I've noticed alot of us have an escort preference, I have a massage parlor preference, I love a good escort but I love getting massaged teased and eventually the release. I started with MPs and prob gonna die with them too. I wrote this with all of you in mind. It's a long read but we'll worth it. Feel free to leave comments and questions but please don't dm me asking me specific stuff. I'm just not into answering things like that.
Do YOUR OWN RESERCH. I've given you a shit ton of info here and it's up to you to do something with it.
San Francisco
I had some time yesterday to give sf a lil tour. And boy oh boy I was not disappointed.
Downtown has a ton of MPs (massage parlors) and I honestly had nothing to do, so I went on a tour! I Visited a ton of different establishments and even visited some famous notorious ones for shits n giggles.
My price range for MPs is usually around 40-60 for the house and 120-200 for full service. I tend to stay around the 140 range because I don't like paying more than 200 for the day. I'm a bargain hunter and a cheap ass lol. I never pay more than 250, as I know I can get 2x a pop grade A service with some of the Korean establishments in the East bay. But that is my absolute max! It baffles me that some of you in other states are paying 200-300 and up! For mediocre service at best.. So I consider myself lucky as hell to live in this great area.
San Francisco is a mecca for MPs. There are multiple places that offer all kinds of price ranges and can cater to almost any pocket. Typical pricing is 40-60 for hj, 80-100 for bj, full service as I mentioned can go anywhere between 100-200.of course ymmv, and always always try and negotiate! Hope this helps some of you that are in the area.
When visiting these places they usually have gates on the front of the door, just look for the buzzard, never knock, hit the button and go inside! once inside don't ever pay upfront until you see the girls. You can always ask to see the line up. Most are set up with a viewing room, a bunch of mirrors and couches in the front area then rooms in the back. They are used to showing the girls off so don't be shy to ask. If they refuse just leave. From my experience any location unwilling to show who's available isn't worth my time. Although some places don't always fit the model. (Disclaimer) This advice only works for sf locations. Don't feel the need to stay out of respect or because you're already there. Most are used to this shit
... keep reading on reddit ➡
It seems to be an open secret that many massage parlors are essentially brothels and fronts for human trafficking. Many of the women are also not here legally or are being forced to work. As much as people claim to care about women’s safety, why are these establishments seemingly ignored by both society and the police? Is it because they don’t want to seem racist as most of these places seem to be Asian owned?
What are some of your favorite massage parlors? I have tried elk, health spa and a few others but wonder if there are some hidden gems I am missing that might be a bit cheaper or have a better experience. I’m always scared of the real small shops because have no idea if I am gonna be roasting upstairs in some dirty hot room. What do you guys like? I’m near phrom phong.
Because the shooter was Arab it was a hate crime because he walked into a public place and randomly shot targets, but that driving to 3 different Asian establishments to target Asians is not. Why do white people want to be the most oppressed?
EDIT: When I changed my av on this forum to Vicha Ratanapakdee her reaction was "I don't care about that guy!"
White people white peopling ya'll
https://preview.redd.it/46m9vx2tm7p61.jpg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2708ae5c3302949292b0cc3166cb83ad06567b50
The police just did a press briefing and said the 21 year old murderer is blaming the parlors for being an outlet for his sex/porn addiction.
For the record, there’s no confirmation that the murderer ever visited these parlors or that these salons were anything but 100% legitimate massage parlors. The other two victims were white.
People on Twitter are speculating he’s claiming a porn addiction because he wants to avoid being charged with race based hate crimes. I think it’s pretty clear this was a targeted hate crime against Asian women but I’m sure the murderer was sexually motivated too. I shudder to think what his Google search history looks like.
RIP to the women and men who died yesterday. I hope we are able to learn more about who they were and honor their lives❤️. My heart is broken today.
AP link: https://apnews.com/article/georgia-massage-parlor-shootings-leave-8-dead-f3841a8e0215d3ab3d1f23d489b7af81
Not discounting the deaths of course though, but this is just the weirdest thought that occurred to me, since I suppose shootings are a regular media spectacle already, I am sorta desensitized to that being my main attention.
Like, we have the worst incarceration rates, and police will not hesitate to get you for even the smallest amount of drugs, but like, open prostiution rings are really that common still and no one bothers to bust them?
Wouldn't that be a bigger concern given the whole human trafficking thing than kids having a joint? And like, it's not even like our shitty laws are on paper any easier on these places than druggies or whatever, yet somehow they remain, and cops still give people working the streets for sex instead of these shady places a ton of trouble it seems.
To be clear, yeah, legalize sex work, but even still, I am just surprised our shitty government let's this stand, and I don't even think this is just an Atlanta issue.
The way some people talk (joke?) about happy endings at massage parlors it seems like it’s a common thing that can be paid for at just about any massage place. As someone who’s never paid for sex and who’s never gotten a professional massage, is that really the case? Or is it just a very exaggerated joke that makes it seem way more popular than it is in real life?
Context: I live in the US.
Clarification: I’m not asking advice on how/where to solicit sex work, I’m just curious how based in reality this specific trope is.
Hey guys I’ve (23F) never done a reddit post before but I’m so confused and wanted other people’s perspective besides my friends who have all taken my side and think I should break up with him. I met this guy (25M) back in February, everything has been awesome, we get along great and it seemed like we were both super happy and into each other.
Background context: he came over and we watched a youtube video from his account. He accidentally stayed signed in on my laptop on safari. I normally use google chrome so didn’t notice till I wanted to google something on safari and all of the searches were random things I had never searched for. I read a recent search that said “rubmaps” and the name of my town. I was curious so clicked on it and then saw what it was, like a map to all of the erotic massage parlors around the area. I was like wtffff and started looking at other searches for that day. There was a google maps direction search for an ATM and then minutes after that a google maps direction search for a specific massage parlor near him. This all tells me he obviously went to the place. This was one day after seeing each other so it’s not like he had not had action recently. I also was here doing nothing so we could have easily hung out that day if he would have asked.
I told him about it without the ATM detail like two days after finding out (he was in a work trip and I didn’t wanna disturb it), told him that because of the way I’ve been raised I was not comfortable with that and didn’t think it would work out. He started explaining that it had been just a random search because him and a coworker were discussing the recent shootings and he was surprised there were places like that around the area. To this I replied it was very hard to believe that as I had seen he went to an ATM and then to the actual place. He then said that he had gone to the atm and to the place thinking about going inside but that he ended up feeling weird and ended up not going inside.
To me this is a huge red flag since it is just the beginning of our relationship and this already happened. In past relationships I have been very forgiving and have moved past red flags and that has not worked out great for me at all. So when this happened I was like that is it I’m ending this because it is surely going to be an even bigger problem in the future, when I’ll be even more emotionally involved.
However, this guy is really trying to mend the situation, has been saying all of the r
... keep reading on reddit ➡I’m on a road trip by myself to a concert. I drove 6 hours tonight and stopped in this city for the night. I have time to kill so I decided to get a massage. Looked up the most reputable massage parlor on google and stopped in. She told me to undress and lay down. The whole massage was normal and straight forward but at the end she sprayed oil on my dick and told me to masterbate. I was surprised as it didn’t seem like one of “those” places. I reluctantly jerked myself off until I came. It’s now 4 hours later and I already can’t live with myself. My girlfriend and I have had a perfect relationship up to now. I have an engagement ring bought and was set on spending the rest of my life with her. In the morning, instead of driving the rest of the way to the concert I was going to see, I’m going to drive the 6 hours home and tell her what I did. She is going to break up with me, my life is over. I want to die.
I’ve done this exclusively for 5 years, at multiple locations . I’ve done everything from handjobs to slave fetishes to full service. Id love to answer some questions... whether you’ve been to one, wanna go to one, wanna work at one... whatever. I live in the US, so it is not legal here. So please don’t ask any identifying information. Thanks!
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/us/massage-parlors-human-trafficking.html
The women who work in these places are often tricked by the owners and are trapped in an exploitative and unfair system. The widespread existence of this trade also harms the image of Asian-Americans on a whole, and contributes to harassment against Asian women who are not in the industry.
Law enforcement can only do so much considering the gray area plausible deniability that lets the owners get away with it. The best way to stop it is some form of community action, such as protest or public ad campaigns.
Additionally, the centrality of Flushing, Queens in the trade points to some form of organized crime involvement, and so prosecuting the heads of those networks could put a big damper on the trade.
