Veterinary Medicine Puns

Hey, everyone, I'm graduating veterinary medicine in another country soon and I have the option to do a traineeship abroad in a veterinary clinic. I chose Germany because I know the language. The program gives me the opportunity to choose between the university clinic for small animals in Hanover or the university clinic in Giessen. If a vet student reads this- your opinion would be very appreciated!

I’m interested in learning more about attitudes in this community. Ask me anything and/or tell me more about your perspectives.

Update: Thank you all for your comments. Many make great points--especially regarding allergies. I will say, I think some folks here may have a touch of mysophobia or hypochondria.

Applying as a interstate school leaver but I’m unsure if I’ll realistically get in…

This is a very long short story about veterinary medicine written by Stacey Foshay that moved me enough to post on this subreddit.

You come home from work one afternoon to find Marvin, your beloved labrador, tilting his head and scratching at his ears. You get on the phone with his primary care veterinarian to ask them if he should come in to be seen. The client care member advises to have Marvin seen and offers you an appointment in two days, then explains what ear-cleaning procedures you can take to comfort Marvin until then. You are outraged that the office could't fit you in that afternoon. Why can't they just stay late to look at Marvin's ears? It won't take that long. You've been their client for years and not being able to get you in is unacceptable. The client care member apologizes that two days is the soonest they can see Marvin. You say nevermind and that you'll bring him to an emergency facility because this is urgent. You don't see that there are only two technicians and one doctor working today, and everyone has worked through their lunches to see 4-5 extra appointments just to try and catch up. You don't see that they will surely be staying well past the end of their shift trying to clean up after a busy, messy day.

You call an emergency facility and explain the situation with Marvin's ears. The client care member here tells you that you can bring Marvin in but since they triage each case, it may be a long wait before Marvin is seen as he is stable. Frustrated, you agree to these terms and load Marvin up in the car. You pull into the lot and park in a numbered space facing the woods. You call the facility to let them know you've arrived but when someone picks up, they quickly ask if your situation is emergent or if you can be placed on a short hold. You say you can hold. You listen to the terrible hold music for about seven minutes. Their job is to answer phones, why could it possibly take this long? You don't see that one client care member is checking out a euthanasia, one is trying to keep up with the hold lines, and one is currently trying to comfort/assist a panicking owner on the phone because their dog was just hit by a car.

A client care member picks up your hold and collects the information they need and lets you know a technician will be out once one is available. You sit in your car with Marvin for about 20 minutes waiting. You call in again and ask when a technician will be out because you've already been waiting for a long t

Good day y'all, I have questions about taking veterinary as a career path, asking for a friend sana, I'll list nalang, hopefully may makapagsagot...

1. Can you pursue a Vet Course when you took ABM as your SHS strand without switching to STEM?

Yung kaibigan ko (currently g12 SHS) nag take ng ABM strand for SHS, and lately lang siya nakapag-decide na gustong-gusto niya mag vet... And I said na baka hindi suitable yung choice niya dahil hindi inclined ang major subjects sa ABM para maging vet, and as far as I know yung undergrad para sa vet ay need ng life science related courses (like bs biology).. so I'm asking if may undergrad course ba na pwedeng i-take para maging vet (assuming wala pang specialization) if ABM yung na pursue during SHS?

2. Healthy Income?

Nag research ako about this and sadly parang marami ang unsatisfied when it comes to income, it is stated na parang walang compensation yung stress at pagod mo sa expected income (not just only in ph but almost globally), is this true?? Kahit experienced ka ba nakaka unsatisfied parin yung sahod?

3. Setbacks?

What possible difficulties, losses or setbacks ang pwede mong ma encounter habang in pursuit on this career? If possible habang nasa school and on the job na sana

4. Reasons to Purse?

Worth it ba maging vet? Especially if dito ka sa Pilipinas?

Tomorrow is my last day as a vet tech. I've been burnt out for over 3 years and stayed because I work for a unicorn clinic. I can't anymore. I'm not a good mom. I'm not a good wife. I use my energy at work and have none for my kids or my husband. So I took a job out of vet med. It's not about the money, but I'll be making a lot more. I'll be working from home half the time. I won't have to do a euthanasia and run right into a puppy appointment. But I also won't be able to offer comfort or a sounding board for owners trying to make difficult decisions. I've been doing this for 15 years and I can't anymore. I'm not sure why I'm posting this, but tomorrow will be really hard.

Edit:

Thank you everyone for your support. I was a little worried about posting here, but I appreciate every comment. ❤️

I once heard a fellow vet tech say that there's a reason that majority of people in veterinary medicine have romantic partners - because we can't afford to live on our own otherwise.

As I thought about all the veterinary support staff I know, I found this to be true, including for myself. Those of us with a romantic partner live with them and have them to help with the financial burden. Those of us who don't, may live with multiple roommates or with their parents.

My own husband recently got a raise (he works in human healthcare) and once the joy passed, I was angry.

Angry that that'll never be me. Angry that veterinary staff in general will never get to feel the value of their talent and efforts in a pandemic, or under "normal" circumstances. Angry that businesses in general can pay more and just won't.

I made the right choice quitting, I did, but that does absolutely nothing for the industry overall. In fact, it's probably detrimental to the industry overall.

It's times like these that I know the industry won't change in my lifetime.

Still, we have to fucking try.

Europe mainly

Maybe I just need to vent, maybe I’m just burnt out. But I have basically had any passion I had for vet med crushed out of me these last 2 and a half years. I am going to try to be as vague as possible because I really don’t want my identity puzzled out. But between administration issues, drama, and the crushing curriculum and constant lectures/reminders about how much student debt we’ll have, how much mental health is an issue, etc, I’m just done.

We’ve had an insane amount of administrative issues since day one of vet school- classes, labs, exams being moved around and rescheduled without telling us (several times professors were not informed their class had been moved, or were informed the hour before class began). Access issues to course material has frequently been waved off. Any time students raise concerns it is ignored or addressed as “character building.” This was exacerbated during online school through covid, with almost double the number of students flunking out than normal. Mental health assistance is a joke, trust me I’ve tried to use it. As someone with a learning disability (ADD) accommodations don’t really exist, even if you go through their ten step process to sign up for them.

Then the courses- they have repeatedly rearranged the curriculum and half the time the professors don’t have any idea what we have/have not covered and teach us with the assumption we have a base of knowledge from a prior class that no longer exists. They’ve crammed in MORE courses per semester and frequently professors don’t have time to cover the materials needed and tell us to learn the additional notes “on our own time.” The hands-on learning is very limited and because of covid we either had one hour labs shortened to 10 minute rotations in small groups, or moved to “virtual” labs which are just additional lecture time.

I’m tired. I don’t even care about anything I’m learning anymore. I don’t even think I want to be a vet anymore, but now I’m $300k in debt and have no choice. I want to go into equine but we barely get any equine in the curriculum, so I can’t even go straight into my chosen field after graduation. This on top of being discouraged by every clinician that going into equine is a bad financial/QOL decision.

Don’t go to vet school. These have been the worst years of my life. I feel so isolated- many of my classmates start drama and cliques like we’re in high school, the rest are married and come to class and then go home and don’t interact with

Hi everyone, I’m a high school student who is starting to explore career options and veterinary medicine is one of my interests so I have some questions.

I am aware that it takes a long time to become a vet and the pay is alright at best but there is one factor that motivates me. I love animals! And it just sounds like a very happy job. Go to work early in the morning see animals all day and come home in the evening. However I’m also aware of the unhappy aspects (euthanasia etc). Okay, enough introductions, imma ask my questions now.

1. Do you have a good work life balance?

2. Which is better and which is easier owning a clinic or working at one?

3. Are your co workers nice people?

I know that one person’s answer can not speak for everyone who works at a vet clinic but I just want to know if people are generally nice in this field. This one matters a lot to me because want to form a strong bond with the people I work with because I’ll be spending half of my day with these people. They better be nice!

4. What percentage of your human customers are the toxic unappreciative type(the type that doesn’t want a $100 treatment for their $3000 pet)?

5. What percentage of your human customers are nice people who appreciate you and listen to you?

6. What percentage of your animal patients are sweet cats or cute golden retrievers etc?

7. What percentage of your animal patients are angry pit bulls that want to rip you to shreds?

Thanks for reading.

I’m curious to know more about how the veterinary profession actually feels about chiropractic and similar “alternative medicine” modalities that really aren’t supported by scientific evidence. I’m in human medicine, and I’m also a longtime horse owner. In human medicine, the overwhelming majority of physicians do NOT believe in or recommend chiropractic treatments, and many times will actively advise patients against at least certain aspects of it … for example, advising patients to not have cervical manipulation performed due to the risk of vertebral artery dissection and stroke without any convincing evidence of benefit. Even DO physicians, who do learn a form of non-evidence based manual manipulation treatment in school, have in recent generations overwhelmingly distanced themselves from actually performing it in practice. There are a few exceptions, of course, but physicians that support and recommend chiropractic treatment are by far the minority.

Anecdotally though, my experience being a horse owner has seemed to indicate that veterinary medicine is much more accepting and supporting of chiropractic, to the point that many equine vets not only recommend it, but perform it on their patients as part of their treatment. To me, that doesn’t quite sit right … obviously humans and horses are not the same, but why would a treatment modality that has failed over and over to be supported by evidence in humans be expected to work better in animals that don’t realize it’s supposed to benefit them? There are many horse owners that believe “chiro” is some sort of necessary “maintenance” for proper horse care akin to changing the oil in a car, but as far as I can tell it really only has a placebo effect on the owner. To me though, it seems at odds with good medical care … if an injury is present and causing enough suffering that just giving it time to heal on its own is inappropriate, I feel like treating it with a therapy that has never been shown to work is equally inappropriate and will only delay the horse (or other animal) from receiving a correct diagnosis and definitive treatment.

Is this acceptance of chiropractic truly something that is “part of” veterinary medicine, or am I just witnessing the selection bias of being involved in the sport horse world where, let’s face it, many of the participants have a significant amount of disposable income that they’re happy to spend on anything that promises their horse will perform or feel better, evidence be dam

Are there any veterinarians or veterinary medicine students on this subreddit? I would like to connect as I have some questions about careers in Morocco :) Thank you!

This is a very long short story about veterinary medicine written by Stacey Foshay that moved me enough to post on this subreddit.

You come home from work one afternoon to find Marvin, your beloved labrador, tilting his head and scratching at his ears. You get on the phone with his primary care veterinarian to ask them if he should come in to be seen. The client care member advises to have Marvin seen and offers you an appointment in two days, then explains what ear-cleaning procedures you can take to comfort Marvin until then. You are outraged that the office could't fit you in that afternoon. Why can't they just stay late to look at Marvin's ears? It won't take that long. You've been their client for years and not being able to get you in is unacceptable. The client care member apologizes that two days is the soonest they can see Marvin. You say nevermind and that you'll bring him to an emergency facility because this is urgent. You don't see that there are only two technicians and one doctor working today, and everyone has worked through their lunches to see 4-5 extra appointments just to try and catch up. You don't see that they will surely be staying well past the end of their shift trying to clean up after a busy, messy day.

You call an emergency facility and explain the situation with Marvin's ears. The client care member here tells you that you can bring Marvin in but since they triage each case, it may be a long wait before Marvin is seen as he is stable. Frustrated, you agree to these terms and load Marvin up in the car. You pull into the lot and park in a numbered space facing the woods. You call the facility to let them know you've arrived but when someone picks up, they quickly ask if your situation is emergent or if you can be placed on a short hold. You say you can hold. You listen to the terrible hold music for about seven minutes. Their job is to answer phones, why could it possibly take this long? You don't see that one client care member is checking out a euthanasia, one is trying to keep up with the hold lines, and one is currently trying to comfort/assist a panicking owner on the phone because their dog was just hit by a car.

A client care member picks up your hold and collects the information they need and lets you know a technician will be out once one is available. You sit in your car with Marvin for about 20 minutes waiting. You call in again and ask when a technician will be out because you've already been waiting for a long t