"Seborrheic dermatitis (SD) is caused by an autoimmune response or allergy, and it is not contagious. It is also not curable but can be managed with treatment.
Treatment of SD is not always necessary, as symptoms can clear up naturally. But for most people, SD is a lifelong condition that will continue to flare up and clear up. Proper skin care can help keep symptoms at bay"
Seborrheic dermatitis: Natural treatments and remedies (medicalnewstoday.com)
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319113
The section of the above quotation from www.medicalnewstoday.com that I have put in italics, I am interested in questions about, as regards its transparency: **is the statement "**not curable but can be managed with treatment" actually sophistry?;
Could it be sophistry if they really mean "not curable as the environmental prevalence of the pathogen (bacterial or fungus) is so great, that it will inevitably be involved in everyone's environment and the effected patients immune system is susceptible to future, pretty much inevitable, but curable-again infections, with the same pathogen".
So to my understanding seborrheic dermatitis is a condition "secondary to normal life" (some could maybe call it a "meta-secondary condition") whereby the patient's immune system has failed to protect them from an extremely common and prevalent environment born pathogen, and they have therefore developed a condition where their body is managing it via their immune system.
Their body can perhaps cure it (this is maybe what is happening if it goes away on its own),
or it can perhaps be cured by treatments, and if so future re-infections are a new episodic failure of the immune system, and each future instance a person gets after they have cleared it with medication once is indeed a newly environment borne infection; a brand new infection each time!
(only if they actually got it to full cure the previous time, eg: through prescription medication).
Hey guys! So my boyfriend has seborrhea and we’re looking for products to treat his skin. He has very clogged, dry and flaky skin that tends to go red and very sensitive. I want to get him on the glossier train but I’m afraid they’re too harsh for him!
Any recommended products?
Abstract
Background: The efficacy of low-dose oral isotretinoin in the treatment of seborrhea and seborrheic dermatitis has been poorly investigated in randomized studies.
Objectives: This study was designed to determine the efficacy and safety of low-dose oral isotretinoin in the treatment of moderate to severe seborrhea and seborrheic dermatitis on the scalp and/or face.
Methods: A randomized, comparative clinical trial, using two groups, was conducted over 6 months. Patients in Group ISO were treated with isotretinoin 10 mg every other day. In Group X, patients received antiseborrheic topical treatment. Patient opinion, investigator assessment, scalp pruritus, sebum production, and quality of life (QoL) comprised the efficacy outcomes.
Results: The intention-to-treat population comprised a total of 45 patients with mean ± standard deviation ages of 28.7 ± 5.8 years in Group ISO and 29.8 ± 6.5 years in Group X. The rate of sebum production significantly decreased in Group ISO. Patient opinion, investigator, and QoL assessments improved in both groups.
Conclusions: Low-dose oral isotretinoin can be a therapeutic modality for moderate to severe seborrhea and seborrheic dermatitis.
© 2016 The International Society of Dermatology.
Derma said I have Seborrhea and is the cause for my hair thinning.
Our setter was just diagnosed with seborrhea dermatitis. We have taken him to the vet many times and done many tests. The vet identified he has some food allergies which we have now changed his diet to a new food. However the condition is not improving.
He is very itchy and has dry itchy and flakey patches. We have been giving him frequent baths with the recommended shampoo. The vet has now confirmed that this is a genetic condition (common in this breed) that only worsens with age. It’s so sad to see him struggle and we are at a loss with how to improve the situation. He will itch and bite his skin so much to the point that it bleeds so we must keep a cone on him. It’s not pleasant for him or us.
Has anyone experienced a similar condition with their dog? Is there anything we can do to help improve the situation?
I been suffering from pretty severe plaque and flaking on my scalp for the last 8 years. I also have some mild OCD, so I pick at it a lot. I would have big chunks of flakes come off and get stuck in my hair, so it was difficult to keep my hair clean. My scalp was sore and scabby from it. Pretty embarrassing I've seen doctors and a derm for this, and tried anti-fungal shampoo, topical steroids, and anecdotal solutions like honey, salt water, MCT oil (which stinks something awful) and other expensive solutions. It either didn't make a difference, or made it worse
Someone on the sebderm forum said a chlorine filter on their shower helped. I ordered a simple one from Amazon, which I installed a week ago. A week later, the sebderm has gone from pretty severe to mild. Nothing else has worked even close to this well. I recommended it to my mom, who also has it, and I think I will get one for my dad, who has psoriasis.
*** I see the post is popular, so I'll provide some more info. A lot of people are requesting me to post the link to the filter. I don't want to advertise for them, there is nothing special about it. It's just a regular 15 stage water filter, it's universal so you can attach it to any shower head. I got one that was cheap, had good reviews, and would be convenient to order replacement filters for. You are supposed to change the filter every 6-8 months, depending on your water usage
You should check how the water plants in your area chlorinated their water. There's straight up chlorine, which the $40 ish water filters are effective at removing. If your area uses chloramine, you'll need a significantly more expensive filter that adds a vitamin c step. I can't advise on that, as my area only adds chlorine to sanitize the water.
I've only used it a week, so I can't speak to the long term effectiveness, but I can say I've tried a LOT of things, especially this past year, and this is the only one I felt warranted posting about. As sebderm is genetic in my case (it runs in the women in my family), I am hoping to improve the scaling, but I don't really expect it to go away completely.
It seems like a lot of you already bought one, so I would love to hear if you find it improves sebderm or other scalp issues for you! I'll follow up as well on if it continues to keep the condition in check.
I'm just at a loss right now. My pit mix has this stinky, scaley, oily allergy all the time. Regular baths with anti bacterial soap works for a day, Prednisone works only a little, Coat defense barely helps, she's allergic to coconut oil, aloe gel doesn't help, salmon oil oral bites didn't help. It's all over, from her mouth/nose to halfway down her tail. I just don't know how else to help my chonker anymore.
Omg I’m about to go nuts from this outbreak of scales and itching and inflammation. I tested positive for the Rona last Wednesday.I have had extremely mild symptoms other than this huge triggering of my seborrhea. I look terrible! It is all over my chest, upper back and even my ears! I’ve tried tea tree oil, head and shoulders and letting it sit on my scales, the Noble bar zinc soap. I’m going to try and see if Vitamin D will help.
As someone who suffers with Seborrheic/Seborrhea Dermatitis (SD) and Rosacea, for my case this is my observations. Anything you apply to your skin is helping the symptoms and not addressing the cause.
In my case, diet and overall health is what causes the flare ups. Get plenty of sleep, reduce stress, exercise, eat healthy diet and avoid foods that trigger flare up. You may need to do isolation diets to try and spot which foods or drinks trigger the flare ups. Remove some foods or drinks for several months. Everyone is unique person so i don’t think this is a one solution for all approach but also suspect there may be similarities or trends in all who suffer with this condition.
In my case spicy food, beers, some wines or alcohols, red onion, curry, lactose milk or dairy products, gluten products to name a few all trigger flare ups in my case. Drink plenty of water based on weight formula you can find on web and that you can manage. To prevent evening urination, it’s best to have biggest intake of water early in the day. Gradually build up to drinking more daily to give body time to adapt with higher water intake. You need this water to flush your organs. In my case it is my liver.
I noticed the flares ups started in my mid 30’s and did not have it when was younger. I also take grape seed extract which is an anti oxidant that helps flush out my liver. I take this for 3 months and then stop for about 3 months and when start to see flare ups again, take it for another 3 months.
This seems to reduce flare ups. Less redness and flakiness. For times where I indulge, then have no choice but to use light creams to moisturize skin. I use Rosaliac cream and sometime aloe Vera gel. Seems to help my case. If redness is not bearable for some social occasions then you may need the product women use for covering blemishes. I don’t bother with this so not sure what it’s called. You’ll have to ask someone who uses make up what it’s called.
For hair and scalp I’ve tried some tar shampoos but no luck finding a reasonably priced product. I found a product called eco care dandruff shampoo and it works for me but it’s pricey. No itchy scalp and no flakiness. I use it every 2-3 days and might be able to use it less frequently if needed. You will have to test how long you can go without it before itchiness and flakiness comes back. It’s expensive shampoo that I think is all natural ingredients so you need to find best way to stretch it’s usefulness f
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George, our dog, about 10 years old, broke out in seborrhea (severe dandruff) shortly after he got his last rabies booster. Not sure if that was the cause but he's never had any skin issue before this. We've tried natural remedies, then steroids but neither had any effect on the skin thing. Vet is a big proponent of raw diet so we switched to that and George is now a very peppy puppy and the seborrhea mostly cleared up but now is coming back again. I searched the net, found that this reaction to a booster isn't uncommon, raw diet didn't clear it up for other dogs either and becomes a chronic condition. Did I mention that a seborrhea outbreak smells? Otherwise George checks out as very healthy. Probably an allergy but we can't figure out what might be the cause. Nothing has really changed in his life. We are outside a fair bit (4 walks a day-2 are in the 60-90 minute range) but that's been the standard since we got him. He does run through fields and nature but, again, he always has.
I was wondering if any other ACD owners have had a similar problem and found any solution. Any allergies common to this breed? The danger is if the dog keeps nibbling on his itchy areas it can turn into an open sore and that's a whole other thing to deal with, potentially serious. George is still getting fish oil and probiotics. He's lost most of the top layer of his coat but it hasn't bothered him going outside-at all. We live right outside Chicago but so far winter has been very mild, little snow. We got a coat for him but haven't had to use it yet. He loves winter (so do I) and snow.
Thoughts?
I'd really like to address the oily and dry issues more than anything. I know, or have heard, that split ends tend to be more of an issue of getting your hair cut regularly - but I'm happy to be told otherwise. The seborrhea I've been managing with Nizoral, so I don't know if that's contributing to any issues or can be offset by any products so I'd wanted to mention that. Love to hear your opinions! Thanks in advance!
I have really strong hair and curls. I'd like to let them breathe and get rid of the shampoo. Unfortunately I have Seborrha Dermatitis on my scalp and the Shampoo really helps alleviate the itching it can cause. Does anyone else deal with this? Am I no-poo screwed?
Hello I have had my cocker spaniel since he was six weeks old he is six years old now he has been having skin problems since he was one years old he would get bad skin infections where it would get all crusty and would smell bad he would itch constantly and if it got bad enough his skin would get infected and ooz puss we took him to the vet numerous times they diagnosed him with dermatitis, food allergies, and yeast Infections we tried medication, shampoos, different diets and nothing has worked so my whole family has done research and found that what his skin condition looks like is seborrhea because his skin turns dry and flakey and after it heals it turns black so we bought medicated shampoo for him and it worked pretty well for him but but now his feet have flared up and smell super bad get super crusty they are super swollen sometimes I have tried washing them with the medicated shampoo and cutting the hair around his toes and putting shoes on him but nothing works if you have any tips to make seborrhea or his feet better please let me know!
I'll cut straight to the relevant information. I'm 28, M. My GP, who was trained as a dermatologist, diagnosed me with seborrheic dermatitis (SD) a year into graduate school. It would flare up now and then, but it was always present. Barbers always used to insist on washing my hair because it grossed them out to see my scalp.
It began spreading to my eyebrows three years ago, and then to my upper lip one year ago. That worried me.
I have been managing it using a mixture of marshmallow root powder and vinegar. It works as good as ketocanazole and it's cheaper. You just make a thick paste and smear it onto the affected area, wait a few minutes, and rinse off. I found this recipe while on a desperate midnight search on Google Scholar, and it has worked miraculously for 8 months now. My girlfriend thinks I should bottle it and sell it. It's not the point of the story though.
The point is this. I went to one of those ten-day meditation retreats to help with some stress and sleep trouble. It was near my town and my diet was largely the same there as it is at home. The only difference was the lifestyle: at home I work on a laptop and with pencil and paper, and at the retreat I sat in a dark room and meditated for ten hours a day.
Lo and behold, my seborrheic dermatitis suddenly disappeared around halfway through the retreat, around the same time I got really into the flow of the meditation. Like it was completely gone, no traces, no little flakes. My acne disappeared in tow.
It returned about eight days after it disappeared (I am sad to say) once I returned to my stressful job. But this seems to point to a connection between SD and stress, and also gives me hope that it can be managed without topical medication.
My situation is a lot better than it used to be. Ever since the retreat I've been meditating 2+ hours a day for a number of reasons -- with skin being pretty far down on the list -- but my skin is nevertheless much better than before the retreat. Whereas I used to use my special shampoo on my face and scalp every day (or twice a day), I haven't used any products in my hair in a couple weeks (but still use them on my face now and then.) Your mileage my vary I suppose.
Sounds wacky and woo-woo, but it's my experience. I can't find much literature on the connection between stress and SD. Either it's under-explored or I am an exceptional case. Feel free to ask me questions.
Back again with another skin issue. Not sure if its seborrheic dermatitis for sure, but based on the symptoms, it looks like it. Anyway, it started on the back of my ears and now my face is dry with very tiny flakes, my eyebrows also have tiny dandruff falling. Very minimal redness and tolerable itching. He one that’s bothering me are the tiny flakes right after I wash my face. I’m suspecting the heavily chlorinated water in my new place is the cause, or possibly the Nivea oil control moisturizer I have been using for a month now.
Anyway, just wanna ask if Aveeno Daily Moisturizing Lotion is okay to use to moisturize the face and other affected areas? I'm still hoping it would resolve on its own since I believe its not that worse compared to the other cases I have been reading. Just wanna save a trip to the dermatologist for now.
P.S. I have a history of contact dermatitis on my lips and skin asthma.
UPDATE: It worked. For those facing similar issues, might as well try this first.
I have seborrheic dermatitis. It's like dandruff, but only on the upper lip, temples, brows. It itches, it burns, I can't shave without looking like I've been drinking blood, my moustache area gets so red.
I can't help but feel like it's all anyone sees. Cure? Don't make me laugh. I've had it 20 years- the cures are stress relief, and sun. I'm a doc so stress is constant, and sun? I'm in Ohio. We get strong enough sun maybe three months of the year.
I feel hideous. I feel like it's all anyone sees, even my wife. I just can't stand it.
Are they good? What's your skin type?
I am struggling with seborrhea all over my body. The rest of my skin isn't flaky, but the crusty parts my seborrhea make are. I read somewhere that snail gels for the body are good.
Can someone share their personal experience with this?
There's a Tonymoly store near me that sells that specific snail gel in a tub. I'm wondering if it's any good.
So, I went to dermatologist, and she said I should try accutane.
Now, I feel like my skin has cleared from acne with my routine well enough, so I wouldnt want to risk accutane's side effects over this.
But she also said that it would help my dandruff and seborrhea, which makes my skin red in patches on my head. Did any of you take accutane for dandruff?
