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Rate my linguistic evolution?

My goal here is naturalism. I'm not good at doing linguistic evolution yet but here goes, critique VERY MUCH appreciated.

Proto-Titharic develops around 2000~ S.K.

Old Titharic develops around 2800~ S.K.

Classical Titharic develops around 3200~ S.K

Common Titharic develops around 3800~ S.K.

Italic means grammatical development

Bold means phonological development

Proto-Titharic to Old Titharic:

>Noun Cases happen
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>Two same vowels in a row get merged
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>Auxiliaries fuse with verbs
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>/pΚ°/ /tΚ°/ & /kΚ°/ become /f/ /ΞΈ/ &/x/
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>Copula gets suffixed
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>RΕ« (many things) & Atai (10/collective) get onto the end of a word
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>Diphthongs /Ι‘i/ /iΙ‘/ & /Ι‘u/ /uΙ‘/ become /e:/ & /o:/
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>Nasal Assimilation
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>/r/ becomes /d/ after /n/
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>Stops are deleted after other stops, the stop prior becomes geminated
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>Homorganic consonant placed

Old Titharic to Classical Titharic:

>RΔ“mΔ«ka (large) becomes an augmentative and Wiun (small) becomes a diminutive
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>Geminates shorten
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>Obstruents are voiced in-between voiced sounds, affricates unaffected
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>Altas (to know) becomes an abilitative mood and is glommed on
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>Apheresis of short unstressed vowels
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>Epenthetic /a/ is inserted before the remaining syllabic resonants
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>When a stop occurs before another consonant (except a liquid) at the beginning of a word, it becomes a fricative
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>Dative and instructive cases fuse
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>Nasalization when a nasal comes before an obstruent
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>Deletion of /s/ before stop word-medially, compensatory lengthening
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>When two fricatives are together, the second one takes priority
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>/rt/ /rk/ & /rp/ becomes /tr/ /kr/ & /pr/
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>/u/ is fused with /y/

Classical Titharic to Common/Koine Titharic:

>/w/ become /b/ after /m/ or a fricative
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>/Ι£/ becomes /g/
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>Sibilants become dental fricatives before /r/
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>Valency changing verbs get put onto the end of a verb
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>/v/ becomes /w/
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>Short unstressed /i/ & /u/ deleted in-between a nasal and a stop
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>Short unstressed vowels deleted at the end of words, long vowels shortened. Diphthongs unaffected
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>**De-Nas

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Last week, I graduated from college. The last paper I turned in for my linguistics course was a semester-long research project on the evolution of the phonology and morphology of the β€œAnimalese” language in AC. I got an A! reddit.com/gallery/kdenfm
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Does anyone remember around what season people started calling it the "merge?" I think it's just a random and interesting linguistic element of the show.

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Linguistic evolution makes learning and communicating in a new language very difficult since the vast majority of the population rarely speak in traditional form.
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What is the current linguistic consensus on cyclic evolution?

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such linguistic evolution
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The Linguistic Evolution of Taylor Swift daily.jstor.org/the-lingu…
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"A 4000-year record of linguistic evolution!"
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[r/linguistics] In the film Arrival, the protagonist starts her (unfortunately quickly interrupted) lecture about Portuguese's phonological evolution and why it sounds so different from other romance languages. Anyone with more details about it? reddit.com/r/linguistics/…
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Do we have records on the linguistic evolution of Malay languages?

I ask this because Ferdinand Magellan's translator Enrique of Malacca spoke the Malay language, which also happened to be the language spoken in Cebu and Mindanao when they visited in 1521.

My family is from the Philippines, and I speak Tagalog. Tagalog has a low level of mutual intelligibility with other dialects of Luzon (e.g. Ilocano, Kapampangan ), and even less with dialects of other Philippine islands (e.g. Ilonggo, Cebuano ). While Philippine languages are still Malay languages, even when not counting the European influences, they have very little similarity with present-day Bahasa Malaysia and Bahasa Indonesia.

How did Malay languages diverge so much in less than 500 years? If so, do we have records on their evolution?

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I’m looking for resources on the evolution of Greek through the centuries, specifically the linguistic changes from Ancient Greek to Modern Greek

I’m doing a paper for school on the linguistic changes of the Greek Language from Ancient Greek to Modern Greek and I’m looking for some resources. I know some Ancient Greek and some Modern Greek. Σας Ξ΅Ο…Ο‡Ξ±ΟΞΉΟƒΟ„ΟŽ πολύ!

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Does the Tower of Babel story refer to real-life linguistic evolution and spread of civilization?

Considering that the Tower of Babel story takes place in Mesopotamia, and early biblical characters like Abraham are said to have moved out of Mesopotamia, does this refer to:

  • All Semitic peoples having their origin in Mesopotamia and eventually evolving their own identites later on after they moved out.
  • Civilization originating in Mesopotamia, and being spread by migration into Canaan, etc.
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Is there a reason "'tis" and other contractions of "it" like "'twas" have largely died out in both Britain and the US, or is it just a quirk of linguistic evolution?
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CHIELD (The Causal Hypotheses in Evolutionary Linguistics database). For anyone studying sociolinguistic anthropology, origin/evolution of language etc. This is a very useful tool to view hypotheses as a causal graph (you can add your own data too!) chield.excd.org
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Question concerning linguistics and the evolution of language

In my fantasy world, language was a gift given to humans by the gods at the time of humanity's creation. This language is the same one the gods speak, and all humans were given the same language. However, that was thousands of years before the events of my story and humanity has spread around the world.

How would such a language evolve? Would it develop into separate languages, or simply different dialects? Would it remain the same because it is the language of the gods? How should I treat colloquialisms?

Feedback is greatly appreciated, especially from anyone with a background in linguistics.

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CMV: text messaging and other forms of tech with linguistic relevance are vilified unfairly, and actually are good for evolution of languages

fact: languages evolve in a predictable, logical manner (albeit, its not fully understood yet... I'm basically saying "we know enough to know that much... ").

fact: the influence of text messaging on language and even speech has become obvoius to even less-observant lay folk, and that linguistic community perceives their opinions are generally negative on the matter.

fact The linguistic community itself is still trying to figure out so there really isn't a whole lot of objective tools for discussion here. Mostly just thought experiments and applying past instances as precedents.

fact The influence of any given technology (e.g., texting) must be global to included in this arena (i.e., only tech that a very large majority of poeple have such as txting or social media "likes").

formating note: I'm going to discuss this topic as seen through a single piece of tech: text messaging. but I really mean to touch on the totality of it (i.e., which includes things spell check, browser features for social media, and others too probably).

 

perceived common view

  1. It's bad cause it makes people sound stupid
  2. It's bad because its easily misunderstood
  3. People use anecdotes such as mistakes in academic writings to support an idea that learning text message conventions will somehow make a person unlearn what is the real way to talk.
  4. Kids developing language nowadays are "poisened" (for lack of less dramatic word)
  5. Lowered personal touch (feeling of connectivity)

 

my counter points

 

  1. Please, someone explain how intelligence and a persons ability are so strongly correlated when we have people developing IQ tests that struggle emensly with the same arguement. I'll just leave that there because the rest is obvious. chew on it if it doesn't make sense because it should now if it didn't already.
  2. Cannot argue there. Especially since we are just getting started here. But the benefits outweigh the cost after the tally compensates for the fact miscommunication are super common and often forgotten/overlooked.
  3. These types of errors do not suggest there is an issue with learning or understanding a language but instead supports instances where the error was in switching between language conventions. Feeling this way would obligate you to unfairly discount the work of a stressed out grad student who mistakenly used MLA for that one reference in a paper rather than APA). This is not a systematic,
... keep reading on reddit ➑

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[WP] You resurect an ancient powerful wizard so it can lead you. The wizard seems more interested in the cultural and linguistic evolution of the various peoples and places.
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What social, economic, and technological variables have proven most effective at slowing linguistic evolution?

I know that widespread literacy can arrest spelling, for better or worse (English seems to indicate the latter). In addition, mass communication can promote homogeneity and stymie dialects branching out due to geographic isolation, which is why we're seeing accents/dialects go extinct. But what more is there?

I suspect that presence of audio recordings could possibly maybe stymie phonological and lexical change as well, provided the right circumstances. But that's only a layman's uneducated guess - and it depends wholly on how much dated media people consume. In the case of modern society, with surfeit of new media pumped out daily, it seems probable that people won't consume much in the way of dated media. But maybe if there was a lower rate of production, and people had to look to older media for entertainment on a daily basis, perhaps it would be reasonable to suggest that the presence of audio media could slow phonological development?

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Looking for people to discuss Linguistic Evolution

Hello,

I'd like to consider myself a philosopher of Concept Dynamics, Esoteric, entheogenic and psychedelic philosophies.

I admire Terrance McKenna, Chomsky and Alan Watts for their examples being a Word Smith.

I want to talk about sensory ratios and the Dynamics of our phonetic communication in relation to assigned meaning.

I would also like to discuss altered states of mind in which people might communicate visually via the imagination and how the fidelity of the imagination chances when these entheogenic molecules are applied to the human psyche.

I appreciate you for reaching out.

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What is the explanation behind languages sounding and sharing some grammatical features, but being unrelated according to Linguistic science? A kind of linguistic "Convergent Evolution"?

For example, I've read about various people who proposed that the Finnish, Estonian, and Hungarian languages (the Finno-Ugric languages) might be distantly related to Japanese and Korean, citing their linguistic features such as a similar set of phonemes and a similar grammatical structure, and the fact that the ancestors of these peoples have migrated from Asia to Europe in the Middle Ages.

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Questions on linguistic evolution

Quick question on how ASL adapts to new words, like company names or trends especially ones that are culturally popular and then aren't.

Does someone come up for a sign for "meme" or "Juul" or "Netflix"? How is that sign spread?

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User gets salty and claims that linguistic evolution is "a fallacy" np.reddit.com/r/todayilea…
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Chomsky's best books in regards to the evolution of language and linguistics.

Most of the posts in here are political or philosophical and so I am just wondering about specific literature of his talking about linguistics. More specifically just how languages change over time for example latin based variation in English, Spanish, etc.

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YSK that assuming chat moderators or chat-limitations within a child's online game is NOT sufficient to protect from predators, mostly thanks to linguistic complexity/evolution!

Facepalm just had a weird post about Minecraft where multiple people commented on there probably being chat moderators or limited chat that help keep things safe for kids. Yes, safeguards like that are better than nothing, but do NOT assume it's even close to enough, even in the strictest of online children's games! Triggered the crap out of me based on my own past so had to say...

(Source at bottom)

  1. Chat filters/limiters/censorship: Welcome to the amazing world of linguistics. I would LOVE to see a PhD dissertation on how text communication evolves in the face of censorship including dramatically limiting words and numbers as well as having certain words flagged for monitoring. For example, at least one online game that allowed limited chat between the avatars tried to keep children safer by not allowing numbers or any sort of word that had to do with giving out information. It was a very limited dictionary, basically started from scratch. So kids couldn't give their phone number, nor could they spell out the numbers except "one" - so for example, the child would then write the phone number as hive heaven tree to for for tree. Or use acronyms for a street name or curse word, like fuck could become Frown Umbrella Crawl Kite. (People would do things like this in a public place so kids would then figure out how to do it themselves.)

People would also have cybersex/inappropriate conversations by talking about "your big circles" (boobs) or "under the pants" etc. Also, when people start to realize certain phrases are being automatically flagged and could get them warned, such as anytime someone says "make out," they'll start playing with "take out" or "lake out" or multiple spaces in between the words, or reversing it to "out make," etc. Essentially every time they figure out a certain word or combination is flagged, they'll find a work-around, until the work-around gets figured out, and so forth. A constant game.

(Note: The limited words - intended to just allow them to play games together versus talk about bigger issues - also meant there were not words for things like within religion or politics, so for example, Jesus became cheese us, and God became dog, and church became house of dog. Do you believe in cheese us? Do you go to a house of dog? Cracked me up.)

Basically, if the child can communicate in any way at all with others in the game, there's potential risk. Just be aware.

  1. Moderation: Not even huge companies who supposedly care about child
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Internet Linguistics Evolution and Analysis- Looking for recommendations on related texts

I'm in the process of doing some research on internet linguistics and was wondering if anyone had any recs. I'm waiting for David Crystal's Internet Linguistics to show up at my library, but would love to hear about any other books/articles/texts, preferably accessible for free via internet bc I'm a poor student with few resources. Thanks!

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An excellent, approachable article explaining linguistic diversity and language evolution. jole.oxfordjournals.org/c…
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