Just a Classical Studies major here stressing about trying to correct everyone's Google Translations of "a deo vocatus rite paratus." On the main r/kpop sub, someone pointed out to me that the line appears to be from the tone poem, or symphonic poem (a piece of orchestral music based on a story which originates from outside of music) "Don Quixote" by Richard Strauss, which is based on the more famous novel "Don Quixote" by Miguel de Cervantes. Since I see everyone simply saying "Don Quixote" and assuming the novel, I thought I'd mention that it actually appears to be from a piece of orchestral music.
Anyways, my translation of "a deo vocatus rite paratus" after double-majoring in Classical Studies and taking Latin for ten years would be something like "a preparation having been called rightly by god." I saw another person translate it as "having been called by God, duly prepared," which is also quite good. Either translation is valid since the word "paratus" can be translated either as "a preparation" or as "having been prepared," which changes the sentence a bit.
Now, apparently in Strauss, he actually uses the phrase idiomatically as "God who gives the wound gives the salve." How that usage comes about, I'm still not sure. There's nothing about a wound, a salve, or giving, in the Latin! I also know nothing about either Richard Strauss' "Don Quixote" or Miguel de Cervantes' and if I find out, I'll come back to edit this post later. Cheers!
Edit: So it means that the Latin phrase “a deo vocatus rite paratus” is somehow associated with the Spanish phrase “que Dios, que da la llaga, da la medicina,” which appears in the novel Don Quixote and translates to “God who gives the wound, gives the salve.” How or why the Latin phrase and the Spanish are associated is unclear right now, since they don’t really directly translate to each other. Spanish speakers, please let us know what the Spanish phrase is used for!
Many religions throughout the world have a sacred language that is used in their worship, or preserved as a part of their history. From the list of major religions, we know that many of them worship with a sacred language.
In the Catholic Church, Latin was used for centuries, and was the official, sacred language of the Catholic Church, until just 60 or 70 years ago.
Why is this religious language important? Religious language lifts us up from the speech of everyday life, and helps focus our minds away from the mundane, and rather towards the eternal, the supernatural.
Now, many people argue that the Latin isn't the easiest way for a new Catholic to understand word-for-word what is going on in the Mass. But this isn't to say that a non-Catholic wouldn't notice the powerful, solemn worship of God, even if they didn't know the Latin.
Consider St Issac Jogues and his missionaries, St Francis Xavier and his missionaries, St Peter Claver and the few who imitated him. Did you ever consider that they brought the faith to a different culture, with a vastly different language, and still conveyed the truth, the beauty, and the power of God?
I honestly think that if the missionaries of years gone by could convert natives of extreme foreign countries, while celebrating the Mass in Latin: I think we're missing something if we say the Novus Ordo is the best and only way to worship God.
What are traditional Catholics supposed to do or think in this age where the Novus Ordo is preferred to the Latin? I will remind you of Pope Benedict XVI, who approved the Latin Mass, and said that the Latin Rite “must be given due honor for its venerable and ancient usage.” (SP Art. 1)¹
Let us pray for the preservation of the Latin Mass, which is ancient, beautiful, and inspiring towards our eternal good.
(1) FSSP: Quote from Summorum Pontificum, by Pope Benedict XVI
For example, what days are there rules for fasting that there aren’t for the Latin church. And on those days are there different rules? Do eastern Catholics also have the Sunday obligation? If yes, can it be fulfilled by attending a western rite mass? Are there different rules for when you have to start fasting before receiving communion instead of just an hour before like in the west?
After reading this article from the SSPX website (https://fsspx.news/en/news-events/news/letter-father-pagliarani-about-motu-proprio-%E2%80%9Ctraditionis-custodes%E2%80%9D-67623), what is the consequence to a priest who continues to celebrate the Latin Rite without permission from Rome according to the new guidelines? Also, what is the consequence to any member of the congregation who attend it in defiance?
Thanks for your time in advance.
Question from an Eastern Orthodox perspective, so sorry if this is common knowledge.
Do eastern rite Catholics have troparia, kontakia, etc for Latin rite saints who were canonized recently? I’m wondering for like Pope John Paul II, Mother Theresa and others.
This may seem a dumb question. Apologies if so. I know that the churches are in communion, but I'm mostly wondering if I would need to contact the priest first to let him know I'm coming? Or can I just show up at the Divine Liturgy and get in line for communion, no issues?
So, in the pre-Vatican II Latin church, mass had a couple different expressions. Low (spoken) Mass, High (sung) Mass, and Solemn High (sung with full amount of ceremony and a deacon and subdeacon) Mass for priests to perform, and Ponitfical High (sung with deacons, subdeacons, multiple priests, and even more ceremony than the Solemn High) performed by a bishop. Do the Eastern churches have any equivalent to these? From what I’ve seen, Divine Liturgies seem to be analogous to the High Mass, but are there concepts of the Solemn High Mass, Pontifical High Mass, or the Low Mass in the Eastern Church?
Edit: thank you for all your answers! This was very informative. Have a blessed day!
I attend liturgy in Latin rite, and never attended other kinds of rites in my life. What's the difference between the Latin rite and the Maronite?
Latin Catholics who use a prayer rope are still in the minority, but it seems to be a devotional that is growing in the Western Church.
To be completely honest, it's something I've adopted myself. I struggle to pray the rosary, but I feel like I'm connected with God and closer to Him when I pray a prayer rope; and I just don't get that feeling when I pray the rosary.
What are your thoughts on Catholics who favor the Jesus prayer/prayer rope over the rosary? Would you say they are in the wrong?
Sometimes I feel like a "lesser Catholic" for not really enjoying or liking the rosary, am I wrong for having these feelings?
Thank you, and God Bless.
I was curious to see what is your opinion on NO and if anything should be done about it. Feel free to leave a comment to discuss in more depth; I’m particularly interested in hearing from those that moved to EC because of previous attendance in a NO parish.
While you may believe that all rites have equal value (as is my case at least), feel free to just leave your personal opinion.
I live in Japan, and unfortunately there are no Eastern/Oriental Rite churches here. I noticed there was a post from 2 years ago, but it only affirmed the same thing. I'd love to come into contact with someone who I can ask questions. If there are any Eastern Catholics living here in Japan too that'd be great to hear your story.I myself am Braga Rite (through my parents), it's technically part of the Latin Rite but is only part of the Braga diocese in Northern Portugal. It's seldom done in it's original form any more though, as most of the priests there switched over to Roman Rite. But I've seen videos of it in modern times.
Edit: I'm not Japanese myself as I've been asked privately. I'm from Portugal. Hence the Braga Rite. I moved to Japan about 5-6 years ago. Braga Rite is a subset of the Latin Rite, it's not an Eastern Rite.
