I have been thinking this through for a few days but I would love some feedback from fellow enthusiasts. I have this feeling like the “opposing” pantheons of gods were really the good guys and that the gods were awful beings who just “won” control of creation so they got to essentially demonize the losers. Take the titans for example. The time when they ruled was known as the golden age of Greece, when no evil or hardship was known and no one had any need for laws. Then Zeus ruined everything with Pandora’s box. He also punished Prometheus (A Titan) for helping humanity. Also take the fomor as an example. They were in Ireland FIRST. They are repeatedly attacked and driven from their homes to the sea. Also, when the Fir Bolg were choosing allies, they chose to side with the Fomor. If the Tuatha were so great, why not side with them? I feel like the info we have on the fomor and jotnar would be the same kind of thing we would end up with if we only had information about Native Americans given to us by Pilgrims. It would be highly distorted and paint the opposing side in a demonic light. The gods seem just as bad if not worse than the supposed “wild nature, chaos, and destruction” pantheons.
Irish Eyes Are Smiling
Ireland’s reputation as a mystical isle rests with it being the Eurasian Western Refuge for all the various hominids (the large and the small) other than homo sapiens, who homo divinus had designed as the inheritors of Earth. The Formorians were the descendents of the scattered remnants of the once great Neanderthals, the survivors of the Gigantomachy and the homo divinus Pivot which wrote them out of the Plan.
In the History of Ireland, Part I, the tale of the first three homo sapien attempts (with BONUS Formorians) to settle Ireland was told. That tale ended with Morc the Formorian having driven off the remnants of Nemed’s people, the third homo sapien attempt to settle Ireland. The people on the single surviving ship went three different ways, one group to Britain (who will not appear again in this snippet); one group to Greece, (the Fir Bolg, who would be the next homo sapiens in Ireland, returning to retake their former home); and one group to the “north” (who would return later as the Tuatha De Danann ).
The Boys Are Back in Town
The Fir Bolg traveled to Greece and ended up enslaved, carrying bags of soil for 4 sosses (230 years) as homo sapien dump trucks trying to turn rocky land into arable land. Eventually, they had had enough and rebelled. Ships were stolen and 5,000 homo sapiens led by five brothers, Slainge, Rudraige, Genann, Gann, and Sengann (they won’t be around long enough to need nicknames) set sail to reclaim Ireland. They first sail to Iberia (the penisula with Spain and Portugal), and then onto Ireland.
Their ships were scattered by storms, forcing them to land separately on the Irish coast. The group reformed at the Hill of Tara, and divided Ireland into five provinces, each ruled by one of the five brothers. The Fir Bolg were the first homo sapiens to bring to Ireland Bronze Age technology and the idea of political structure. Civilization was coming to the Western Refuge. That effort was about to receive an ENORMOUS homo divinus kick into another gear with the coming of the Tuatha.
Beautiful Day
The Fir Bolg had barely landed in Ireland a half a soss earlier (37 years in this case), dividing Ire
... keep reading on reddit ➡Name: The Fir Bolg
Claim Type: Confederation
Claim Focus: Seafaring
Tech Region: Europe, NorthSea
Dela of the Fir Bold coughed into a white cloth, and brought it away from his mouth spotted with red.
A heavy sigh escaped the still impressive frame the of the traveling patriarch. To die like this seemed unfair. Had he grown withered with age and died to a stronger or faster man in battle, or fallen from the deck of a ship in a storm, those deaths he could accept as good and right. But to die now, on the solid ground of the homeland, far from battle, and with his great beast strength still in his limbs... It seemed such a waste.
But death it was, and soon it would come, he knew. Time was precious, and he must make his arrangements before the end. He attempted to boom his voice over hill and dale and across the seas, calling for his children, but he managed only a normal yell, followed by another fit of couching.
But hear their father his children did, and one by one they came to him where he leaned against the brow of his ferriby boat.
First came Sláine, youngest of Dela. Built with lean muscle and tall of stature, he arrived with an ax for chipping wood in his hand and a bow on his back.
Next came Fuad, second oldest. A massive woman she possessed the power of her father coupled with the beauty of her mother. Said to be kissed by fire, to her face it was said it described her hair, behind her back it referred to her temper. She leaned on her spear, affecting a relaxed air, but any in her family could see she was attempting to keep her weight off her bad knee in the chill morning climate. There would be rain later, she was sure of it.
Third came the third, Gann. Even more massive than Dela or Fuad, in battle he favored a massive crude battle axe of his own design. Unarmed for the moment, he strode into the midst of the meeting and greeted all already present with a bone-crushing hug.
Eventually came Cnucha, born less than a year before Sláine. A shy woman, she hid what she saw as her deformity, her mismatched eyes, behind her hair. To the rest of her family her eyes were the highest mark of her beauty, they seemed to sparkle with her quiet intelligence. Still none could convince her, and so she continued to veil herself with her hair. At her hip was a wicked looking knife, but it h
... keep reading on reddit ➡It just looks that way because of the top part not being coloured in.
Title pretty much says it all, Looking for occult info based on Ireland in the pre christian era. I already have some practices based around St. Dymphna and would like to add to it.
As an FYI St. Dymphna was an early Christian saint from Ireland. She had a Christian mother and a pagan father. Her mother died and according to legend her father tried to marry her causing her to flee Geel where her father eventually found her and having been driven mad with grief killed her. Miracles relating to mental illness and a community based around the human treatment of the mentally ill followed her death in Geel. The murder by her father could be truth, but the king who tries to marry his daughter is a universal archetype, and may have been early Christian propaganda to discredit her pagan father. Her history remains shrouded by myth, but the miracles and healing done in her name continue to this day.
Or are they just mythical?
Do you think they were Giants from Under the Sea? Were they Atlantians?
Does it stem from Fir Mor? Implying Giant men? Other sources say it stems from root words meaning under and sea, faoi and mare?
Were they actually a dramatization of vikings? Or were they truly the Jotun?
Could they be similar to the Nephilim? Could their flood be linked to the bibles flood?
Where did they go?
What was the last mention of them?
I love this part of Irish mythology and Folklore, so I'd love to hear your stories of them in the comments, or links to interesting or unique sources outside of Wikipedia or the top Google searches on the subject!
Would someone please tell me more about the original conceptions of fomorians, before they were seen as giants? Wikipedia says "They are often portrayed as hostile and monstrous beings who come from under the sea or the earth. Later, they were portrayed as giants and sea raiders." I'm looking for more info about the "monstrous" fomorians.
It sounds weird to put it that way but here’s the situation. I’ve been trying to make a nature cleric, and the whole idea is that he’s a nature cleric devoted to real life Irish deity The Dagda (basically a lawful good nature cleric who’s holy symbol is a cauldron, hanging out in the woods feeding animals, that kind of thing).
My point though, for stats and gameplay sake, a firbolg cleric makes the most sense (especially because of the firbolg’s proximity to the fey), however in real life, the fir bolg were a tribe of Irish people who warred with the Tuatha de danann (for whom The Dagda is the leader) and fought on the side of the fomorians, monstrous giants and enemies of the tuatha de.
So like, I can’t reconcile making a firbolg cleric (even though the DnD race is closer to the aos si than the historical fir bolg), it feels disrespectful to the Dagda (I won’t make a cleric unless it’s a Dagda cleric).
TLDR: I can’t make the strategic and mechanical race choice because of a real life connections
Is there any tale or source that mentions an ultimate origin of the Fomorians? If not, can anyone mention their earliest named progenitor/sire, genealogically speaking?
Especially with regard to the book of invasions
These two men seem to have a lot in common:
- Both lived for thousands of years, about 5500 to be exact
- Both seemingly come to Ireland right before or during the Flood, so would be in Ireland around the same time
- Both have the ability to turn into animals
- Both had all of their loved ones die in the flood
- Both survived into Christian times, and then are never heard of again
Info on Tuan
In Irish mythology Tuan mac Cairill was a recluse who retains his memories from his previous incarnations, going back to Antediluvian age. Initially a follower of Partholon, he alone survived the plague, or the Flood, that killed the rest of his people. Through a series of animal transformations he survived into Christian times, and, in conversation with St. Finnian of Moville told a brief history of himself and of Ireland from his people onward to the coming of St. Patrick.
Info on Fintan
In Irish mythology Fintan mac Bóchra (modern spelling: Fionntán), known as "the Wise", was a seer who accompanied Noah's granddaughter Cessair to Ireland before the deluge. Bóchra may be his mother or may be a poetic reference to the sea.
He was one of only three men in the expedition, along with fifty women, so he, Cessair's father Bith, and the pilot, Ladra, had sixteen wives each. Fintan's wives are named: Cessair, Lot, Luam, Mall, Mar, Froechar, Femar, Faible, Foroll, Cipir, Torrian, Tamall, Tam, Abba, Alla, Baichne, and Sille. He married Ebliu later. His only son was Illann.
His wives and children were drowned when the flood arrived but he survived in the form of a salmon, remaining a year under the waters in a cave called Fintan's Grave.[1] He then turned into an eagle and then a hawk then back to human form. He lived for 5500 years after the Deluge, becoming an advisor to the kings of Ireland. In this capacity, he gave advice to the Fir Bolg king Eochaid mac Eirc when the Tuatha Dé Danann invaded and fought in the First Battle of Magh Tuiredh.
He survived into the time of Fionn mac Cumhail, becoming the repository of all knowledge of Ireland and all history along with a magical hawk who was born at the same time as him. They meet at the end of their lives and recount their stories to each other. They decide to leave the mortal realm together sometime in the 5th century after Ireland was converted to Christianity.
Due to his ability to shape-shift into a salmon and his honorific title as, "The Wise", Fintan mac Bóchra is sometimes confused with a si
... keep reading on reddit ➡So this is my personal headcanon about Irish mythology within the world of Lore Olympus, don't know if other pantheons are a thing in Rachel Smythe's mind, but whatever. Spoilers are blotted out where I think they are deserved, if any think I should make more spoiler blots, I will make edits.
So Hades is traveling in the mortal realm with Cerberus, specifically in Iberia, when Cerberus runs off barking, and Hades sprints to keep up. Lugh Lamfada is also there, looking at the site where the Milesians came from out of curiosity, and his hound, Failinis, also goes barking and sprinting away.
When Hades and Lugh meet they originally don’t get along for a number of reasons, Hades doesn't like sun gods, Lugh doesn't like the Greeks for enslaving the Fir Bolg, one of the mortal cultures on Eire. Hades and Lugh raise their spears, when Failinis and Cerberus begin playing with each other, running around chasing after each other, wrestling. Lugh and Hades watch, when silently begin throwing sticks, Lugh uses his sling to throw bouncing balls for the dogs to chase after. The two gods get to talking rather than fighting, mostly about their dogs, and when the time comes to leave, Failinis and Cerberus start whining. Lugh and Hades decide to let their dogs meet up and play from time to time, as a result become friends. >!It could be that Lugh and Hades got drunk one night, with Hades stumbling to Demeter's garden to have his first meeting with Persephone.!<
I would imagine that as a god of crafts, Lugh would also get along with Athena, with them building a gargantuan birdhouse for Athena’s owl, whom Lugh calls fluffles. Lugh could also get along with Demeter, with Lugh being a Harvest Deity. Conversely, Lugh would not get along with Ares, as Ares might have led some armies into Eire, and Lugh being a war god, would have opposed him. Also Lugh hates the D-bag Apollo, for being a braggart with his lyre and his duties as a sun god, Lugh plays the harp but never brags about it and is a sun god, but not directly driving the sun across the sky, Lugh just directs the sun.
I imagine Lugh having fiery red hair, and white gold or alabaster skin with gold or red freckles, and scars/blemishes in spiral patterns similar to war paint in Celtic warrior artwork. He always wears a gold torc around his neck and never goes anywhere without his loyal greyhound Failinis or his legendary spear Goirias. In casual wear in Tir Na Nog or Olympus, I imagine knit wool sweaters, waxed cot
... keep reading on reddit ➡Heileo, a chairde, agus tá fáilte romhaibh ar fad (Hello, friends, and welcome to you all)! I decided to put together a comprehensive list of references to Irish mythology in Three Houses along with any information that feels relevant to why the reference was made. I will be using Irish terms regularly as well as giving rough pronunciation guides for them. The vocal sound represented by the letters “ch” in modern Irish writing (a guttural exhale) will be represented in these pronunciation guides by the letters “ck”. So let's begin.
Loog: Faerghus’s founder is named for the Irish god of storms Lugh (pron: loo), one of the most prominent members of the Tuatha Dé Danann (pron: too-a-ha jay dah-nun). He was known by the title "Ildánach" (pron: ill-dawn-uck), or “Multitalented”, because of the incredible diversity of talent he possessed. This is important to mention because having a broad repertoire of talents was essential to being a respected warrior in old Ireland. As such, Lugh is the quintessential Irish warrior. He was also the father of Cú Chulainn (pron: koo ckull-in). Cú Chulainn was often shown having to prioritise his role as a warrior over his own interests (see the Fhirdiad section for an example of that). Lugh and his son both embody the heroic ideal, with Cú Chulainn drawing attention to the personal loss one can experience by aspiring to said ideal. It therefore fits that Lugh's name is given to the heroic figure who founded a culture obsessed with chivalry and being the perfect knight.
Cichol, Cethleann, and Indech: Three of the saints are named for Fomorians (supernatural beings/chaotic deities who came from the sea in Irish mythology; referred to in Irish as Fomhóraigh, pron: fuh-vore-ah/fuh-vore-ee). These Fomorians specifically are:
· Cíocal (pron: kee-uh-kull): The first Fomorian leader to live in Ireland. His people survived on fish and fowl because they didn't know how to farm.
· Cethlenn (pron: keh-len): The wife of Balor (pron: bal-ur) as well as the mother of Ethliu/Ethlinn (pron: eh-lyuh/eh-lin). She bore the title “Cethlenn of the Crooked Teeth” and was a warrior as well as a prophet.
· Indech (pron: in-deck): A legendary king of the Fomorians.
The fact that these Nabateans were named after Fomorians is interesting to me. The Fomorians arguably represent the fear of a foreign force threatening the status quo, but the Nabateans are concerned with the opposite: maintaining th
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For a story I was writing I wanted to use firbulgs but im not sure if theyre copyrighted. If so is it just the name or does it include the overall design as well?
Go post NSFW jokes somewhere else. If I can't tell my kids this joke, then it is not a DAD JOKE.
If you feel it's appropriate to share NSFW jokes with your kids, that's on you. But a real, true dad joke should work for anyone's kid.
Mods... If you exist... Please, stop this madness. Rule #6 should simply not allow NSFW or (wtf) NSFL tags. Also, remember that MINORS browse this subreddit too? Why put that in rule #6, then allow NSFW???
Please consider changing rule #6. I love this sub, but the recent influx of NSFW tagged posts that get all the upvotes, just seem wrong when there are good solid DAD jokes being overlooked because of them.
Thank you,
A Dad.
Not sure if this has been discussed before but I've recently noticed some similarities between the In Universe Mythology of Westeros and the Real World Mythology of Ireland, namely the Tuatha dé Danann who were one of the first tribes of Ireland
In Irish Mythology, Tuatha dé Danann are referred to as kings, queens and heroes who possessed magical powers and are at times, referred to as Celtic Gods and Goddesses.
The first comparison can be drawn between how the Tuatha de Danann first came to Ireland and how Nymeria landed on Westeros. In some tales, the Tuatha de Danann arrived to Ireland over sea on flying ships which engulfed the land in dark clouds for three days. Other stories say they were simply normal ships and the dark clouds were the result of them burning their ships on arrival to ensure they properly settled the land.
This is very similar to Nymeria's story of how they burned their ships so as they wouldn't be tempted to return to their lands, however her people arrived as refugees rather than a conquering force.
The next similarity can be seen between Jaime Lannister and the High King Nuada, who both had their sword hand chopped off and then replaced with a metal one. In the stories, Nuada defeats the Fir Bolg (the race of men who inhabited Ireland before them similar to the First Men) in a battle but loses his arm in a duel. His kingship is then stripped of him as he is no longer unblemished and Tuatha De tradition was that their King must be physically perfect, and is replaced with a tyrant, Bres. To restore him to king a druid replaces it with a metal arm which allows Nuada to retake his kingship. The struggle Nuada faces after losing his arm is very similar to Jaime's as he is forced to question who he is and what actually makes a good king.
The last similarity I noticed was between the the children of the forest and the Tuatha de Danann. When faced with an invasion from the Milesians, a people thought to be from modern day Portugal, their druids attempted to sink their ships by calling on a magical storm as they lay in harbour, much like how the children of the forest called on the hammer of the waters to flood the neck to stop the invasion of First Men. This was unsuccessful however and the Milesians overwhelming numbers were too much. So when the Milesians offered to split the land between them they gladly accepted, however they were tricked as the Milesians took all th
... keep reading on reddit ➡The reason I say this, is, despite the name's connotations, the Highlander is, for one, based on Scottish Mercenaries serving in Ireland (Gallwoglass), but two, is that multiple armor sets and moves are named for Irish lore, myths and history. One move, the Fomorian kick, is named for the Ogres and Dark gods who terrorized Ireland in ancient times, while Balor and Tethra, while three other armor sets are named after The Morrigan, a trio of Irish Goddesses linked to battle, death and fate, while Fir Bolg and the Milesian were names for different groups of Irish settlers in their myths.
As Dublin began as a trading port for local Irish and traveling Norse merchants, combined with the lore simplifying and cutting some things down from actual history, I believe the Highlanders are actual a mixed group of Gaelic warriors who take from aspects of Irish and Scottish traditions, both to reflect history, and to make things more diverse and give more options to developers for armor and weapon sets.
Well, toucan play at that game.
Martin Freeman, and Andy Serkis.
They also play roles in Lord of the Rings.
I guess that makes them the Tolkien white guys.
She said apple-lutely
'Eye-do'
This is my first post pls don't kill me lol.
The people in the comment section is why I love this subreddit!!
Cred once again my sis wants credit lol
I heard parents named their children lance a lot.
First post please don't kill me
Edit: i went to sleep and now my inbox is dead, thank you kind strangers for the awards!
Keep in mind, my son is 4 years old, so everything is an original to him.
I had to work late into the evening yesterday, and he was just going to bed when I got home. I had left home for the office nearly 14 hours prior, had a long day, lots of meetings, traffic, etc.
When I walked through the door, I was exhausted, run down, and starving. My wife hugged me and asked how my day was, and I replied, "Done. It was a good day, but has got me exhausted. I just want to grab a bite and go to bed. I'm hungry."
From my son's bedroom, I hear him shout, "Hi Hungry! Nice to meet you!"
Not only did it make me laugh, but I completely forgot about how hungry and tired I was. I went to his bedroom, and we laughed together about it. It was exactly what I needed.
Edit: Thanks for all the awards, kind strangers! I'll let my son know y'all enjoyed his joke too!
Japan.
second hand stores!
