Q about Charmides

In the first part of Charmides (where Socrates is investigating Charmides' definition of temperance), it sounds as if Socrates is equating "quietness" with "slowness". I've viewed several translations and they are consistent on this point.

I've enjoyed the dialogues of Socrates I've read, but I was struck by how illogical this one seems to be. I'm not questioning the premise of his questioning, but his false comparison o these 2 terms, seems to make this argument invalid. Is there something I am missing or is Socrates somewhat off?

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Help understanding Charmides (Platos Works)

Hello I know this is long shot, but I’m trying to read Charmides (Socratic dialogue) and I’m just confused overall. If someone with a stronger grasp of the texts could help me I would appreciate it. Whenever I read it I can make out that it partly revolves under the importance of self-knowledge and it’s value. I just think I can’t fully grasp the way it’s structured. What questions am I suppose to read when I go through this? Any pointers on helping his work? Thank you

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Charmides (Temperance) by Plato - full audiobook with highlighted text youtu.be/S2uXQkUonSs
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Socrates wrote the book charmides in which he graphically details his fantasies about little boys. Why are his works referred to by schools especially Christian schools since he is a gay pedophile? Would a gay pedophile today be as acclaimed for his ideas?
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Charmides and Socrates have sex, right?

At the end of "Charmides" it's strongly hinted that Charmides is gonna have sex with Socrates afterwards, right? I just find it hilarious that such a deep convo would end on such a kinky note :D gotta love my man Plato

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What is being said here? (Plato's Charmides)

This passage in the Charmides has been puzzling me. It is told by Critias in reply to Socrates after Socrates proposes that making things for others would be intemperate if minding your own business was temperate. It can be found at 163c.

β€œ Not at all, ” he said, β€œ nor do I call working and making the same. I have learned this from Hesiod, who said β€˜ work is no disgrace ’ . Do you suppose that Hesiod, if he referred to the sort of things you mentioned just now by both the term β€˜ work ’ and the term β€˜ do ’ , would have said there was no disgrace in cobbling or selling salt fi sh or prostitution? One ought not to think this, Socrates, but rather believe, as I do, that he supposed making to be something other than doing and working, and that a β€˜ made ’ c or created thing became a disgrace on those occasions when it was not accompanied by the admirable, but that work is never any sort of disgrace. Because he gave the name β€˜ works ’ to things done admirably and usefully, and it is creations of this sort which are β€˜ works ’ and β€˜ actions ’ . We ought to represent him as thinking that only things of this sort are β€˜ one ’ s own ’ and that all the harmful ones belong to other people. The result is that we must suppose that Hesiod and any other man of sense calls the man who minds his own business temperate. ”

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Why the attention to young men's good looks in Charmides by Plato?

Just read Apology and Crito. I know Socrates was meant to be ugly, and that homo-pedastry seems to have been a rite of passage for the boy.

Why does Socrates care about physical beauty, and why do I get the feeling that Socrates is flirting so unashamedly?

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Democracy, Oligarchy and Xenophon’s Depiction of Charmides (Memorabilia III.7) ashokkarra.com/2008/09/cr…
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Democracy, Oligarchy and Xenophon’s Depiction of Charmides (Commentary on Memorabilia III.7) ashokkarra.com/2008/09/cr…
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Laurence Lampert - How Philosophy Became Socratic: A Study of Plato's Protagoras, Charmides, and Republic | [NDPR] ndpr.nd.edu/review.cfm?id…
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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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What do you call quesadillas you eat in the morning?

Buenosdillas

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

They’re on standbi

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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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E or ß?
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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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I had a vasectomy because I didn’t want any kids.

When I got home, they were still there.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

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" Hey, you two stop making out "

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I'd like to dedicate this joke to my wisdom teeth.

[Removed]

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Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

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How do you stop Canadian bacon from curling in your frying pan?

You take away their little brooms

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It this sub dead?

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Letting loose with these puns
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All dad jokes are bad and here’s why

Why

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My name is ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

It’s pronounced β€œNoel.”

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concrete πŸ—Ώ
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Why are people so surprised and angry about Djokovic being an anti-vaxxer?

After all his first name is No-vac

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If Korean pop is shortened to Kpop and Korean Drama is Kdrama...

What, then, is Chinese rap?

Edit:

Notable mentions from the comments:

  • Spanish/Swedish/Swiss/Serbian hits

  • French/Finnish art

  • Country/Canadian rap

  • Chinese/Country/Canadian rock

  • Turkish/Tunisian/Taiwanese rap

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Pun intended.
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Is this sub still active?

There hasn't been a single post this year!

(Happy 2022 from New Zealand)

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What did the ocean say to the beach?

Nothing, it just waved

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is Isn't
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