I have a friend who feeds a feral colony and we got our voucher from Cat Welfare to get as many of the cats spayed/neutered that we can. This morning we caught 4 females and took them to the place we were instructed to use. The bet clinic would not take the cats because it’s going to be over 85 degrees and a cat that has recently come out of anesthesia can’t regulate their own body temperature.
I said I could keep the cats in my garage or even on my nice, cool screened porch until late in the evening when the temp goes down but they can’t “trust” people and just take their word for it. Really? Someone who cares enough about cats to spend their own money ($90 for humane traps, $10 for the voucher and then $10 each for every cat spayed/neutered) can’t be believed when they say they will keep the cat cool until the temperature goes below 85? I know in the big picture that’s not a lot of money but I’m willing to spend it while many wouldn’t.
So we are supposed to release the cats and try to trap them again and hope it’s on a day that I have off from work that will be below 85 degrees. Why is it so difficult to do the right thing?
Hi vegan Reddit! The title pretty much says it all. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this!
Edit/Addition: okay so since no one has mentioned it yet I’m going to add this to the post because this is really the only part about it I’m torn on.
Along with your thoughts in general, how do you feel about the part where they snip off part of the ear to be able to tell from a distance which animals have been neutered already?
Hi Everyone,
My boyfriend and I have some stray kittens that need to be neutered. Are there any clinics in Burgas, or near that city that offer free neutering services? We have been searching and the closest ones appear to be in Plovdiv or Sofia.
Also, can anyone recommend any animals shelters in Burgas or near that area that are willing to take on at least 2 kittens? If anyone is interested in adopting please feel free to send me a private message as well.
Thank you
Hi everyone. Just looking up what TNR is because of another conversation in this sub and it seems there's two opinions on TNR with regard to feral/stray cats. 1. It's a really good idea. 2. It's worse than euthenasia. I tend to fall on the side of 1, it's a good idea. I won't list all the good that comes of it because I figure you're all smart enough to work that out. I'm wondering though, what are the bad issues with regard to TNR? Obviously returning cats to a less than ideal area, taking queens from their kittens, and several other reasons, all have to be taken into consideration but in an ideal situation of strays just being strays, I'm struggling to seeing the downside to sterilisation, thus lowering their environmental impact (killing of native species particularly here in NZ such as ground dwelling or slow birds such as Kiwi, Piwakawaka (fantail) nesting Kea, et al. We don't have rabies here. Just in case that's an issue relating to strays where you, dear reader, may reside.
I'm from Mexico and unfortunately we have a huge problem with stray dogs.. I can't foster/adopt any more doggies, but every single time I see a stray mom to be, my heart hurts as I know it means there will be more little furries roaming around and in possible dangers, and I believe that I could help a little by taking to neuter the most dogs I can.. Does TNR work with dogs too? If so, how different is the approach from the TNR for cats? I hope I'm not saying something stupid, but if I do, please be kind..
Yesterday a cat came into our backyard, and I had seen this cat before but this time around it brought 5 kittens with it. The cat was very frightened when it saw me looking and hid, but the kittens have not learned that yet and took a bit to respond. They've mostly stayed in our backyard since that encounter. The kittens look to be about 7-8 weeks old. My landlord does not allow cats, let alone 5-6 of them so fostering is off of the table. What resources do I have to make sure these cats stay healthy?
Bit of a long shot but I'm wondering if anyone has a connection to the feral cat trap, neuter, & return community in Portland.
EDIT: I'm sorry for not specifying, I have already contacted the FCC. I am looking for personal experience.
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this, but I need some advice.
We have several feral cats that live near my office. My coworkers feed the cats, and keep putting roadblocks in my efforts to get them spayed.
Several months ago I was able to get two males neutered. The only reason for this was because my coworkers would chase them off (in their mind this would prevent the females from getting pregnant- did not work). So, since the males were hungry, I was able to trap them humanely, get them neutered, and return them. They still hang around the office, which is fine, and they are allowed to eat the cat food now.
They continued to provide food for the females, even though I asked them to hold back, so I could try to catch them. I cannot remove the food because its right outside my coworkers window, she will lose her mind if I tried to move them. When she saw me put the trap nearby, she got furious and made my job difficult for several days afterwards.
Two of the females got pregnant (surprise!), and now have litters of three kittens each. This is going to continue happening. I told my coworkers this. I told them that they are going to continue having babies.
Their response: "I don't think we should be putting cats in traps-its not humane. or I don't want them to be hungry"
WTF they live right next to a parking lot! One of them has already been hit by a car!!! And they continue ignoring this problem.
I'm so frustrated. Idk if any of you have dealt with difficult people like this when doing TNR?
Like TNR is literally free in my city, the vet will give them vaccines, and I will pay for any additional care! I have told them this.
Really appreciate any advice you can give me!
TL;DR: Coworkers making it impossible to catch cats. Overpopulation is becoming a problem. I don't want to find dead cats in my parking lot.
**Update: I was able to catch all the adult cats! Unfortunately one of the mom cats had a tapeworm (it has been taken care of) and abandoned her babies-we didn't find out until it was too late. This sad thing turned my boss around to be more on my side. Some people never did agree with me on this spaying and neutering thing, but in the end I realized I didn't care if she hated me (because tbh her opposing this was never about the cats-it was about her extreme dislike of me). A friend of my boss took the remaining kittens and is fostering them until they are able to find their forever homes! Obviously, I feel bad that I wasn't
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Where I live there’s a serious issue of feral cats (overpopulation) that keep being run over by cars or hurt by sick people. People here don’t care about whatever happens to them. But I morally wonder, as an ecologist, in such situation what would be the answer?
We have a large amount of feral cats in the back of our building at my work. We love them dearly but we also don’t want them to keep giving birth to babies that may not be able to survive. Is there a place locally we can call to trap Neuter return them? Looking to deal with them as humanely as possible.
Here is text from the website of Alley Cat Allies, a prominent cat protection group.
> It is a fact that the removal and killing of outdoor cats that animal control has been pursuing for decades is never ending and futile....Each time cats are removed, the population will rebound through a natural phenomenon known as the “vacuum effect,” drawing the community into a costly, endless cycle of trapping and killing.
>The vacuum effect is a phenomenon scientifically recognized worldwide, across all types of animal species
>Well-documented among biologists, the vacuum effect describes what happens when even a portion of an animal population is permanently removed from its home range. Sooner or later, the empty habitat attracts other members of the species from neighboring areas, who move in to take advantage of the same resources that attracted the first group (like shelter and food). Killing or removing the original population...only creates a “vacuum”....
https://www.alleycat.org/resources/the-vacuum-effect-why-catch-and-kill-doesnt-work/
Entirely true. But the difference is that TNR people are feeding the released cats. TNR cats are not competing with feral (non-TNR) cats for food in the natural environment; indeed the non-TNR cats are now raiding the food sites, with the potential that the ferals might breed even faster.
Discussion might touch on the efficacy of culling. Lately some environmental groups have tried to discredit the principle of culling, noting, for example, how difficult it is to cull coyotes, which reproduce rapidly. Entirely true.
Quote from Alley Cats: "But scientific research, years of failed attempts, and evidence from animal control personnel prove that catch and kill doesn’t permanently clear an area of cats.
Culling is a suppression effort, not an eradication effort. (Those are much more difficult; New Zealand and Australia are now attempting pest eradication on some islands.)
Culling never stops (though it can be applied highly intermittently). Humans have been culling rats for thousands of years. Yes culling can be expensive to administer. Nature of the thing.
There is 1 mom-cat with 3 kittens in my backyard in Crown Heights. I don't know if the mom-cat is stray or feral, but she seems comfortable getting fairly close to me to ask for food. Based on photos online, I would guess the kittens are ~10 weeks old and have seen their mother nursing them a few times over the past couple of weeks.
I've been doing some research to figure out how best to handle this situation. Called a few no-kill shelters that people have recommended here in the past, and they are all full right now. I am considering TNR for the mom-cat and found a lot of helpful information on this site, but I was hoping someone here who has experience with TNR could provide any pointers or tips (e.g., where'd you get a trap, where did you take the cat to get spayed/neutered, etc.).
Also, here are a few questions running through my mind:
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How do I know when the mom-cat has stopped nursing and can be safely spayed?
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How do I know when the kittens are old enough to be safely spayed?
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Will the mom-cat and kittens be sad to be separated from each other?
Any general advice would be appreciated. The kittens all seem really sweet and playful, and I hope these guys (mom-cat too) can have a happy life. Thanks for reading.
For those of you not familiar with what I'm talking about, the city of San Jose has this great policy dealing with stray and feral cats. Long story short the city comes and humanely traps the cat, neuter or spay the animal and then return them from where they came. This helps curb unwanted breeding and thus reduces the feral cat population in a very humane way. Here is what I need help with...
I have two of these cats that I take care of. We feed them and provide fresh water everyday but I need help finding someone (individual or organization) that can help defer the cost of a check-up and maybe even some immunizations.
In the past the city would drop off food once a month or so, so I am assuming there is help out there specifically for this situation but I'm having trouble finding a contact. I have information on how to report feral cats, and how to get free neutering depending on your zip code, but nothing about continued veterinary services.
Anyone have any suggestions or know someone who might be able to help??
Thanks in advance, Reddit.
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this, but I need some advice.
We have several feral cats that live near my office. My coworkers feed the cats, and keep putting roadblocks in my efforts to get them spayed.
Several months ago I was able to get two males neutered. The only reason for this was because my coworkers would chase them off (in their mind this would prevent the females from getting pregnant- did not work). So, since the males were hungry, I was able to trap them humanely, get them neutered, and return them. They still hang around the office, which is fine, and they are allowed to eat the cat food now.
They continued to provide food for the females, even though I asked them to hold back, so I could try to catch them. I cannot remove the food because its right outside my coworkers window, she will lose her mind if I tried to move them. When she saw me put the trap nearby, she got furious and made my job difficult for several days afterwards.
Two of the females got pregnant (surprise!), and now have litters of three kittens each. This is going to continue happening. I told my coworkers this. I told them that they are going to continue having babies.
Their response: "I don't think we should be putting cats in traps-its not humane. or I don't want them to be hungry"
WTF they live right next to a parking lot! One of them has already been hit by a car!!! And they continue ignoring this problem.
I'm so frustrated. Idk if any of you have dealt with difficult people like this when doing TNR?
Like TNR is literally free in my city, the vet will give them vaccines, and like I will pay for any additional care! I have told them this.
Really appreciate any advice you can give me!
TL;DR: Coworkers making it impossible to catch cats. Overpopulation is becoming a problem. I don't want to find dead cats in my parking lot.
