I've been reading Karl Radek, Zinoviev, Kollontai, Krupskaya, Bukharin, etc.
I wanna know more about them personally.
Been listening to The Court of the Red Tsar lately, and Iβm wondering what happened to the other Old Bolsheviks? We know about Bukharin, and Vyatka is Rykov instead of Kirov so we know heβs not purged. But what about the rest of the gang? Ordzhonikidze? Radek? Kemenev? Zinoviev? Molotov? Mikoyan? Kollontai? What about the people Stalin historically promoted e.g. Beria, Yezhov, etc.?
I know that without a doubt there was some cases of justice in some of their sentences but it's always been a confusing part of early soviet history to me, in a lot of cases these people spent huge amounts of time on the revolution and ended up getting killed so quickly and intensely.
How much of these executions were unnecessary excesses and how many were actually warranted?
Were they happy to hear that the Soviets had taken all power in Russia? What was their view of Lenin, considering that both him and Marx himself used the Parise Commune as an important part of their revolutionary theory for a workers state, "the form at last discovered" as Marx had put it.
Did they see their own aspiration for a direct rule of the workers finally come true or were the reactions more mixed?
Seeing as most Antifa members are upper middle class or middle class kids, the Bolsheviks they admire so much would eat them alive. They hated the upper class, and wanted nothing more than them to die (Or get stripped of their property).
Their supporters being rich journalists living lavish lifestyle, such as Carlos Mazda, they would also get targeted immediately by the Bolsheviks.
Its just crazy to me that people woult worship Communism like this, when they should know that they would be some of the first to go if an actual revolution took place.
Does know like bukharins like views. I like to know about the old boslheviks and there views in a sense on the role of the party, economic organization and that kinda thing anyone got a source for this kinda thing.
Including Missouri, Washington, Florida, and Michigan
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
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Like, I get it. Some socialists support the USSR under Stalin. I get the socialism in one country logic. Supporting everything the USSR did because of anti-imperialism. I disagree with it all (I'm a trot so duh), but I see where it is coming from. But surely the show trials and executions of all the old Bolsheviks condemns Stalin of just consolidating power, right? Like how can that be justifiable for any "socialist" government to liquidate everyone who doesn't tow the party line exactly?
link here: http://imgur.com/a/Xh2op
My great grandfather was born in Southern Russia in the late 1880s. His father was a member of the nobility and owned a massive fishing fleet, so he was quite well off and received a good education in mathematics, German and the sciences. However, he believed that his father treated his workers unjustly, and was convinced of the merits of Marxism some time before the 1905 revolution.
He joined up with the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party and participated in the 1905 revolution against the Imperial government. Unfortunately for him, he picked the wrong revolution to rise up for and took a bullet for his troubles. He managed to survive, however, and an associate got him on a ship headed to America. He eventually moved westward and settled a homestead in British Columbia after some issues arose in New York City.
At least, that's the story my grandmother told me. There are a lot of details I've always wondered about, but I haven't really had anything else to go off of. However, after my grandmother passed away, she left me my great grandfather's journal that was written not too long after he arrived in Canada.
Unfortunately, it's entirely handwritten and most of it is in Russian (some is Ukrainian, I think). I have a pretty hard time reading handwriting, my Russian is pretty bad and I have absolutely no idea how to read handwritten Russian, but I can kind of make some of it out. If anyone can figure out more than I could I would greatly appreciate it. Of particular note, a few people are referenced/quoted that I don't recognize at all, there's a picture of a fellow near the end that I also don't recognize (albeit it's quite old and stained), and there is a fable he translated but I can't find the original anywhere.
I'm looking for suggestions on good books or documentaries that deal with the Old Bolsheviks. Primarily the victims of the show trials. Any suggestions?
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Old fat bolsheviks. Let them all die.
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Author: /u/fordahor
