Heavenly officials: Those wraith butterflies are deadly!
Xie Lian: I think they're kind of cute.
Heavenly officials: Hua Cheng is very dangerous, caused havoc in all the realms and soundly defeated 33 officials, so be careful!
Xie Lian: He's nice to me and I like him, and he's hot, so whatevs!
Jun Wu: Don't get near E'ming! It is evil, made from a blood sacrifice.
Xie Lian: What a sweet sword! And look, it likes me!
Qi Rong: That necklace is cursed with misfortune! Take it off!
Xie Lian: You're full of s***.
And of course... spoiler
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Fortune-telling Guoshi: Misfortune will curse anyone who touches that child!
Xie Lian: Hugs child even tighter
So I made her watch CQL and gave her TGCF to read and her discovery is it's so typical! even the characters seems the same and I'm so confused like how? she's just in the starting part of tgcf but thinks "san lang is like this mysterious yet powerful and all knowing and misunderstood" is giving wei wuxian vibes!! I'm speechless. How can I convince her its not the same?
BOOK 4 SPOILERS!!
Everyone agrees that book 4 absolutely destroyed them but can we also talk about how relatable Xie Lian gets here? Like damn mans is finally struggling and dealing with things like a human would i absolutely adore how petty he was. Especially when he gets drunk and falls in that burial pit and cusses for the first time. He just goes, "...what the fuck" and then yells, "GOD FUCKING DAMMIT". It just caught me so off guard and I started laughing bc that was funny af. And then like 1 page later I start crying again.
Just saw this at my costco $75 - has anyone tried it? edit - I'm in the US Northern Calif but the only picture I could find was this one
i've seen not an insignificant number of people ship them together and i'm genuinely boggled at where this came from? i don't think they ever shared any scenes together in the show and, from the 3/4 of the book that i've read, they haven't interacted at all either? nothing against the ship or people shipping them together, i'm just really confused at where exactly this comes from
Honestly, I just want to know how Hua Cheng and Xie Lian's bodytype was described in the novel. I know we have all the official arts to understand how they are described in the novel. But I'm still kinda confused because I've seen some discourse on Twitter...
Edit: Thank you for all the replies. I appreciate it โบ๏ธโค๏ธ
I feel like many of Xie Lian's positive character traits are human traits, or can be translated as a human trait, such as being smart, being strong, wanting to help people.
While most of his negative traits and mistakes he made are strongly connected to his immortality/godhood, like his whole thing with thinking he was invincible and could save all of his people, or the >!almost being willing to wipe out Yong'an thing!< in book 4 for example.
As a result of that I feel like sometimes when people write him in modern AUs they tend to translate the goods into a mortal, human character, but leave out the bads, and it just turns him into a character that has no flaws.
I think writing him is especially difficult if it's in someone else's point of view. Many of the flaws you could give him are things that would happen in his head on the inside - thinking he needs to do a million things without knowing his limits, being unable to ask for help because he doesn't want to bother people -, but on the outside he appears to be fine, and to the POV character it's also gonna seem like he's fine unless they talk about it.
I'm wondering if there's other ways it's been done to make his flaws apparent to other characters (and to the reader, in cases where the story is written in someone else's POV), or what other flaws could be given to him that would still make him a realistic and interesting character.
Does anyone reate to this issue? And does anyone know fics or authors that do it well?
I have him for QMS 210 this upcoming semester and I wanna know how he is as a professor
They are covered in the manhua and donghua, right? I remember that he self-consciously hides them. In the novels, I seem to read that they're visible?
So basically, I started reading the manhua
They said Xie Lian was a crown-prince who became a heavan official yk the whole deal, but after his kingdom got infected with a plague he went back immortal and failed? I think
Xie Lian also was a general who died? in what year did the general thing take place and wasn't he immortal?
I might just be a bad reader but I'm really confused, help?
WARNING ENDING SPOILERS!!
So I recently finished re reading TGCF and at the end of the book when the fight between Jun Wu and Xie Lian has ended Jun Wu is on the ground and it starts raining, after Guoshi says heโll stay bu Jun Wuโs side it says that Xie Lian after a moment of silence took off his bamboo hat and covered it over Jun Wuโs face.
I actually didnโt pay much attention to this during the first read through but now I wonder did Xie Lian give away the hat to Jun Wu? He never took it back right? So this means he doesnโt have his bamboo hat? It didnโt mention him taking it back so I assume he gave it away, I can understand why but Iโm just curiousโฆdoes anyone know if this is the last time Xie Lian has his bamboo hat? Thanks!
Spoilers for both series.
Shower thought: Hua Cheng is Luo Binghe who has had 800 years to cool down and grow up, Xie Lian is an older, more responsible, more traumatized Shen Qingqiu.
Similarities between between Hua Cheng and Luo Binghe:
- Both are mixed raced orphans and outcasts in the society they were born in. Luo Binghe is a mixed race child between a demon and a human growing as a poor orphan in the human realm. Hua Cheng is a mix race child between a Hmong mother and a Xian Le father, growing up as a poor orphan in Xian Le (fantasy ancient Huaxia). Details about demonic culture in xianxia are originally based on the native "magic" and belief of the ethnic minorities in northern and southern China (Tai, Hmong, ancient Turk, and ancient Mongolic groups mainly).
- Hua Cheng became a Ghost King, while Luo Binghe came a Demon King.
- Their mothers (Hua Cheng's mother, Su Xiyan, and the washer woman) loved them but died early, leaving them as abused street orphans.
- Both suffered from poverty, looked down on, and discriminated by the rest of the society for it.
- Both were rejected by their remaining family members. Hua Cheng by the rest of his family, Luo Binghe by Tianlang-jun and Shen Jiu (the traditional role of teacher is roughly the same as the role of the father).
- Both were saved by their eventual love interests, who were ones of the few people to not discriminate them for being poor orphans. This theme is even played with in Scum Villain, where because of the System and Abyss event, LBH came to believe that Shen Qingqiu rejected him too for being a mixed race, leading to his breaking point and the main drama of the story.
- Their love interests are older than them and first met them when they were the poor abused orphans.
- Both have a face problem, like to preen in front of their love interests, and have had their chuunibyou phase. Hua Cheng's chuunibyou phase was mainly off-screen, from his failed suicide attempt in the parade to his time in Tonglu, but he eventually got better. Luo Binghe's chuuni phase is on-going as of the end of the series.
- Both had spent years in each world's versions of hell and had major character development in hell. Hua Cheng changed for the better in Tonglu and graduated from his chuuni phase, Luo Binghe changed for the worse instead and officially entered his chuuni phase.
- Both had once attempted to commit suicide and take the rest of the world with them. Hua Cheng sincerely believed that his suicide in th
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Sorry, Iโm interrupting happy train with freshly received books ๐ Anyway, remember that game they played in โVenerable of the Empty Wordsโ arc? I understand why XL asked his question (to spot if HX is the jinx), I understand why SQX asked HC his question (to figure out how he became a supreme), but what about He Xuan question? Why he needs to know what Xie Lian regrets the most? What do you think?
Itโs been close to a year since Iโve read the novel so excuse any inaccuracies. But as we all know, our lovely XL has a poor hand at cooking and itโs always made me wonder whether itโs his own personal callback to his motherโs cooking? It could easily be dismissed as a โruns in the familyโ sort of thing as well as the fact that he was brought up without having to do common tasks like that for himself. But I also think about how the novel mentions XL cooking for a while when he and (mostly) FX had to fend for themselves. And then again when his father was ill and his mother was getting older. And I donโt recall it being stated that his cooking was so awful then. Perhaps it was because of the overall serious tone in those parts, but Iโd also like to think that maybe XL can actually cook okay, but chooses to cook these crazy concoctions in nostalgic reminiscence of his mother.
