I know a lot of friends who like to do it and it kills me. I want to actually push them down myself I can only imagine what the people behind them who’ve paid money for their ticket are thinking.
Edit: thanks for the silver - me lord.
I just saw a video on Youtube claiming that millennials who don't want to have kids are selfish because the world needs the younger generations to keep the wheel of economy and development running. When I heard this I was so infuriated, this is the most incorrect statement I have ever heard against antinatalist people. And it's actually the total opposite. Think about it, most people want to have kid for one of these reasons:
- They are lonely and/or lacking love and company so they decide let's have children to love me.
- They feel like their life is meaningless so they have kids to give a purpose to their life.
- They surrender to the pressure coming from their family and relatives, especially from boomers.
- They are afraid to grow old lonely and with no one to take care of them.
- They have kids to show them off in front of their friends, family, neighbors or any fucking person, some parents even take it as a competition to raise the best kid in the neighbor.
- We all are genetically and psychologically programmed to have kids and stick to the norms of the older generations.
Why You should not have children:
- You will only bring a conscious human being into this world of pain, despair, killing, rape, pollution, envy, hatred, psychopaths, and evil people.
- The parents can die at any time and any day and they will inevitably leave behind them those orphans that will only suffer in this world without their parent's love and protection.
- Children can grow to be psychopaths or killers and just bring more evil to this world.
- Children can be born with any physical or mental disability and will suffer for the rest of their lives for it.
- The parents who are supposed to take care of the kids can't even take care of their fucking life, they have no idea what they're doing, they are drowning in debts and poverty, still can't achieve their dreams in life, they're not even properly raised for them to raise a child.
- This world is already fucked up: overpopulation, pollution, malnutrition, wars, crimes, natural disasters, lack of meaning etc...
tldr: If you're not one of the richest 1% in this world, then you are absolutely selfish for bringing a human to this planet.
I mean, if they are only doing good because of that sole reason, it means that their actions are corrupt. They are not doing good actions because they are good in their heart, they just wanna end up in heaven, no?
EDIT: To everyone who keeps posting comments of "there is no hell or heaven", that's not really the point of the post... And also, yes I have been watching The Good Place :)
EDIT: I would like to apologize for any pain or suffering I cause by saying this. Thank you so much for all the discourse.
EDIT EDIT: Thank you all so much for your responses (positive or negative) and for those who reached out to me personally. Truly, thank you.
This quote is taken from the Locked on Jazz podcast. You can listen to the full podcast here.
Locke is not singling out Booker here, he also mentions Marvin Bagley and DeAaron Fox.
The formula:
Robert: I didn’t bring Annie here for her to sleep on a couch or share a bed with my son. I am going to show Annie a really nice apartment she is going to like that is more spacious than the one we have now because we are sharing a bed with my misbehaved brat.
Annie: WOW, this apartment is nice. It is spacious. I like it. I think we should get it.
Robert: WOW RED FLAG. YOU ARE FUCKIN SELFISH. I JUST RENEWED MY LEASE YOU DUMB ASS BITCH. I HAVE TO BUY USED TIMBERLANDS AND OUTDATED CLOTHES THAT WERE POPULAR IN THE YEAR 2002. I CANT AFFORD THIS.
Annie: Why did you even bring me here? Why did you tell me you were going to get us a new apartment? Why did you even bring me here?
Robert: WOW. SELFISH. I am just going to SCREAM and ignore your VERY VALID QUESTION. Red flag!!!! You are selfish for wanting to not be kicked in the head at night you dumb fuckin bitch.
He literally brought her to an apartment she would like to get her exited about it just to make her feel like shit about getting excited about it. He enjoys having the power over her emotions. I think that ugly smug fuck gets his little penis hard from seeing Annie get sad or upset.
He asked her about the wedding, she answered, and he got ENRAGED when she said she wanted seafood. He has severe temper problems and he makes me sick. I hope someone knocks that stupid fucking bun off of his head at the reunion.
Edit: Thank you for the silver! It’s so shiny.
I’d like to share some links for you all, narcissistic abuse is real, and can be devastating.
Narcissistic Abuse and Recovery
Also check out.
r/raisedbynarcissists
They are participating in a crime and involving their children with them.
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If they get caught and arrested, then they either have to be locked up and separated from their children, or their children have to be detained with them, and then get deported, or:
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If they manage to evade arrest, then they have to live their lives illegally in the country (they can't participate in the economy properly or get good opportunities), and have the shadow of arrest and deportation looming over their head.
This is not about asylum-seeking, it's about people who don't enter through the ports of entry.
By the way, Mexico is not a war zone, nor is it persecuting and genociding its people. It does have a high crime rate in many areas, but most people live normal and sometimes inconvenienced lives. So just because you're from Mexico doesn't mean you qualify for asylum.
The same applies to all Latin American countries, with the exception of three: El Salvador, Honduras, and Venezuela. Those are significantly more dangerous. And it's absurd that they're trying to move all the way up to the US, as if it's their only option. There are other areas in Latin America that they can move to, that are closer. And they can enter other Latin American countries legally, because they have fewer visa restrictions, and are allowed visa-free travel. There are many relatively safe and decent places in Latin America (and they share the same language, except Brazil). And there are 3 highly developed countries in Latin America: Chile, Uruguay, and Argentina.
They don't deserve any sympathy. The only people who deserve sympathy in this situation are the children, the Americans who have to deal with the consequences in employment, healthcare, and taxation, and the immigrants who are waiting in a long line to enter the country in the correct way.
I've read a lot of posts about how people doing charitable work/good deeds for social media likes is selfish and wrong. It is selfish, and I probably wouldn't hang out with those people, but if the impact on the world is still positive (more trees get planted, whatever) then we should still encourage it. It's the same with companies that do good things so that consumers will like them more. Selfish motives - yep, but it doesn't matter if it's helping people/the environment.
One exception I would make is for people who video themselves doing something charitable for another person. Depending on the situation that could be humiliating for the other person.
People who either can’t work or are struggling to find work in order to take care of themselves need charity from other people who earn their keep in both capitalism and communism. If you don’t think capitalism can adequately provide charity to the needy on its own then neither can communism because the same people need to somehow be more charitable to make up for the supposed lack of charity in capitalism, and there’s absolutely no reason to assume people would magically be any more charitable than they already are.
Communism is no more guaranteed to provide for the needy than capitalism, and you can’t just define an economic system by a lofty prosocial goal. Otherwise despite the world having full social ownership and democratic control over the means of production, you can always and forever claim “no true communism” as long as you’re unsuccessful in attaining the end goal that all economic systems, not just yours, aim towards (the abolition of absolute poverty).
So communists, stop assuming that everyone’s basic needs being met is an inherent part of the communist system. Also, if you’re that confident in the charitability of people, then naturally people would be charitable enough to take care of everyone in a free market as well. Either people are charitable enough (regardless of the system) to guarantee basic needs for everyone or they’re not. Pick one.
This whole situation is just moving so quickly at this point with the NBA postponing the season and a player testing positive. I hope the NHL can perhaps do empty arena games for a while and continue the season, without endangering people.
Edit: And we're done.
Last night, my husband and I had another child discussion: he is strongly in favor of a baby; I lean CF, but have been working through The Baby Decision to see if I can change my mind. (We're also in counseling.) Unfortunately, all of the discussions feel very hostile towards me, and last night, I discovered why: my husband said that he thinks I am being selfish in denying him, my mom, and my sister a baby.
I replied that having a child I don't want is an equal, if not more severe, offense.
I just don't know what to do about the toxicity that permeates every conversation. Anyone else in this tug of war?
There was a video posted earlier where some guy was going back and forth on Shoothouse taking out all these players wall mounting down the center lane and the caption insinuated how bad they were. All the comments were defending the players saying “they’re just getting their camos, i do this too.” And this seems like a common sentiment in this sub. If that’s what you want to do then that’s fine, but it’s also a common theme in this sub to complain that people camp too much or are too focused on KD. I know it’s not necessarily the same people who do this, but if you’re a person who complains and also grinds camos, then you’re a hypocrite.
As I was typing out the title I thought about how someone would probably respond to me saying “what if the parents didn’t know how the children would come out?” Which is why I decided to clarify that I would only apply this to people who do know beforehand. I remember seeing this video about a girl who was born with this rare defect that caused her bones to be very fragile. The girl had to be pushed around in a wheelchair and had to wear knee and elbow pads to help prevent her bones from breaking and her bones would break pretty regularly even still. The mother talked about how before she gave birth to the girl the doctors knew she’d be born with that and told her that the humane thing to do is have a abortion and I completely agree with that. If you know how much it hurts to break a bone take that pain and that’s what that little girl has to go through all the time just because her parents had to have that specific girl. Of course in the comments section it was seemingly all positive messages. I’m not saying that girl and others like her shouldn’t be supported for what they’re going through because they should but don’t act like the parents are these really good people because they’re not. If it wasn’t for them there wouldn’t be a kid going through that kind of thing in the first place. And of course people with the logical and humane opinion like me get attacked if they voice it like I almost certainly will despite the fact that any doctor worth their shit would agree with me. That little girl I mentioned is far from the only one who has to deal with pain everyday of their lives thanks to their parents. I wouldn’t say it happens a lot but it does happen.
I’m sure people are going to say things like I shouldn’t talk because I haven’t gone through it. Sure I haven’t but I still see the children with those kinds of problems and what they have to go through and if I knew my unborn child would go through something similar I think I would be able to make the right decision and encourage a abortion. Sure it’s all easier said then done but to me it’s a matter of right and wrong and what has to be done. Don’t let a child go through that, if you know your child will have a rare disease or defect then take your doctors advice and have a abortion. You can always just try again after you get over the loss. Also like I’ve been trying to show I’m not trying to be a asshole and I do have sympathy for this kind of thing but the right thing to do is clear and obvious.
Anyone who says this is the truly selfish one. Not only are you making another person's suffering about yourself but you also shame people who are already at a point where they think ending their life is the only option available. Most people don't even bother to question why another individual may be suicidal and would rather brush it off as attention seeking or being over dramatic. Medical, mental, and emotional issues go unnoticed and untreated far too often and we call people selfish when they can't handle it anymore. It's ridiculous.
JNMIL turned to us while we were at a family gathering and said "I can't wait to have grand babies from you two."
I was so confused and the look on my face showed that so she explained "oh, come on, I know you girls won't have biological children but there are so many other ways. You could get a sperm donor or you could adopt. Adoption is a GREAT idea. When will you two adopt?"
I responded "I don't want kids."
JNMIL lost her crap and said in no uncertain terms that we were selfish for not giving homes to the unfortunate children the system and it was her God given right to have grandchildren and not only did I make her baby a lesbian (She seemed fine with her daughter's sexuality from the get go apparently) I was now taking away her rights. She then asked us to leave.
I had no comeback. I don't care what she thinks says or does.
But I'm curious to read what was your sassy or sarcastic respond to "you're selfish" for not wanting to have children.
Edit: thank you for all the responses. Up votes for all!!
This sub has become a crying thread for people who's lives aren't going the way they imagined it an now they need to lash out at the perceived culprit.
Everyone is so selfish they won't even consider that the actions taken by profs, the University or CECA are probably the best they can do right now.
Everyone is just throwing out solutions that would work best for them ignoring that it would affect other people as well.
I honestly don't understand what all these people are whining about international Coops being canceled. I is unbelievable that anyone looks at whats happening right now and says "you know what, I want to travel to (insert any country)".
People are dying and our Healthcare systems are being strained more than ever before and all this sub wants to do is cry about not getting there Cali coop or failing a course (because they failed the term work).
PS: And I know this might be harsh and I'm ignoring the real upheavals in peoples lives this is causing but I wanted to balance out the other ranting threads on this sub arguing the inverse, which also ignore most of the nuance to this whole situation so...
So, I'm like 4 episodes deep into The Other Way. I don't know what's coming, but all I can think about is how selfish it is to take a young child away from everything and everyone he's ever known, moving to a country where he will likely have fewer opportunities than he would in his home country to be with a man with an arrest record who is completing rehab as your plane lands. I don't think I could even consider bringing a child into that sort of situation unless the guy were extremely stable with a sparkling record. But if this were the case for Ronald, he could come to the US and there would be no reason to uproot Daniel's entire life.
Ronald's issues don't make him a bad person. It's entirely possible for a person to change for the better, but I can't imagine gambling a child's security and happiness on it. As a parent, she should be willing to sacrifice her happiness for her child's and above all, to protect him. I just don't see her doing either of these things.
It’s all over town.
People slap #FEMINIST #GLOBALWARMING #VEGAN tags and talking points publicly just to use them as springboard to
boost their own egos, social status and because it sounds good. But that's all they do. Tweet how outraged they are and obviously echo chamber made of same virtue signalling endorse it with similar comments and retweets.
Those who want to make changes on pretty much everything, do it regardless of how much exposure person behind it gets.
