Questions about syllabification and double consonants in Latvian

Hello, I have questions about syllabification and double consonants in Latvian as follows:

- How is AlΕ«ksne (name of a municipality) divided into syllables? Should it be A-lΕ«ks-ne or A-lΕ«k-sne?

- How is Bauska (name of a municipality) divided into syllables? Should it be Baus-ka or Bau-ska?

- The article Latvian phonology on Wikipedia and some Latvian grammar books say that when a voiceless consonant is located after a stressed syllable and between two short vowels, it will be lengthened and sound as though it is doubled, for example, aka, lapa, bute are pronounced [akka], [lappa], [butte] respectively. Is this also true when a voiceless consonant follows the letter "o"? I understand that the letter "o" is usually pronounced as the diphthong [uo], but again, in the orthography this diphthong is represented by a short vowel letter, so I am not sure if it is counted as a short vowel in this case. For example, how are the words roka and RopaΕΎi pronounced? [ruoka] or [ruokka]? [ruopaΕΎi] or [ruoppaΕΎi]?

Thank you.

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Questions about the syllabification

Hello,

What is the correct way to divide the syllables when there is a cluster composed of a consonant + r between vowels? For example, should the name α‰΅αŒαˆ«α‹­ be divided into Tig-ray or Ti-gray?

Thank you in advance.

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The syllabification of Ἅιδης

From β€œLearn to Read Greek, Part 1”, (Keller and Russell, 2011, Yale University Press) the rule is:

> A Greek word has as many syllables as it has vowels and diphthongs. When a word is divided into syllables, each syllable should begin with a consonant whenever possible.

Ἅιδης has three vowels: Ξ‘, ΞΉ, Ξ·. Ἅι is not a diphthong since the breathing and accent is on the first vowel and not the second.

Therefore, I divided Ἅιδης into Ἅ/ΞΉ/δης. Three vowels, three syllables. But the answer key is Ἅι/δης. And of course Hades is two syllables in English.

What is wrong with my understanding? Something obvious no doubt.

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[Academic] An acoustic study on English syllabification (native English speakers)

Hi guys!

I’m a linguistic student in University of Manchester. I’m doing a research on English syllabification.

I’m looking for informants to do an acoustic study on how /tΙΉ/ and /kΙΉ/ clusters in English homophonous triplets are syllabified by native English speakers. If you are a native English speaker, all you need to do is to read several short sentences. It’s rather simple and takes you a couple of minutes.

In this survey, you will be asked to utter two triplets of tokens which are embedded in sentences, and record your utterances.

Tokens used in the survey: nitrate ~ night rate ~ nye trait /ˈnaΙͺtΙΉeΙͺt/ sucrate ~ souk rate ~ sou crate /ˈsuːkΙΉeΙͺt/

Link to the survey: https://survey.phonic.ai/5ff301ce49a41b8eb36f9057

Your data will be anonymised and analysed in PRAAT by the researcher. If you have any questions please feel free to let me know.

Your participation will be much appreciated <3

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Syllabification of rare plosives with liquids

I'm getting the impression, judging from a few vocabulary lists, that implosives and retroflex plosives don't form clusters with liquids the way other plosives do, so instead of /a.ʈra/ and /a.Ι“la/, they would be /aʈ.ra/ and /aΙ“.la/. Is this true?

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About syllabification

Or the division of words into syllables. In Italian, this follows tight rules, allowing anyone to do it even for made up words. I want to lay down these rules for you.

You might say: word-processing software does this automatically, why should I bother? You should, because learning is fun and important and this is easy!

  1. The core of the syllable is always a vowel or a diphthong. No vowels, no syllable!

  2. Each individual syllable must begin with combinations of letters that are allowed to begin an Italian word. This is useful when dividing consonants.

Let's look at a couple of examples. First, the word

> tornare

Let's approach this systematically.

Can "t" be a syllable on its own? No, it needs a vowel.

Can "to" be a syllable? Yes, because it can start an Italian word (and it does in this case). Ok, so we would have our first syllable "to". Let's continue.

"r" can't be the next syllable, nor can "rn": they need vowels.

Can "rna" be a syllable? No, Italian words cannot start with "rn". So, what do we do? We go back to "to" and attach the "r" to that syllable. Now "na" can be a syllable as well. So far we have "tor | na".

It's clear that the next syllable must be "re".

So it's

> tor | na | re

Another word:

> cassetto

β€œCa” would be the first syllable, but then the next would begin with β€œss” which is not allowed. So it’s β€œcas”. Similarly, with β€œse”, it can’t be because the next would begin with β€œtt”, also not allowed. In the end it must be:

> cas | set | to

Another example.

> mostrassi

β€œMo” is the first syllable. The next one would be β€œstra” (which is fine because Italian words can begin with β€œstra”) but it needs the β€œs” from the next syllable otherwise β€œss” is not allowed. So it’s

> mo | stras | si

Following this rule, all doubles split, including improper ones like β€œcq”.

  1. Diphthongs stay together, hiatuses don’t.

This obviously requires you to know the difference between them. A diphthong is a combination of vowels that, when sounded out, rapidly switch from one another in a way that could lead to sounding like one single vowel sound. Here a list of Italian diphthongs. Other combinations are hiatuses.

But let’s have some examples.

> Mario

You pronounce this as ma-ryoh, not as ma-ree-oh, therefore β€œio” is a diphthong, therefore it stays together when splitting syllables. Italian words can begin with β€œrio”, so the final result is

> Ma | rio

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Questions about the syllabification

Hello. Are there some things like syllabification rules in Turkish (and Azerbaijani)? If there are such rules, I'd like to ask how we can divide the following names in syllables:

  • KΔ±rklareli: Should it be KΔ±r-kla-re-li or KΔ±rk-la-re-li?
  • Şabran: Should it be Şa-bran or Şab-ran?
  • SaatlΔ±: Should it be Saat-lΔ± (single long vowel /aː/) or Sa-at-lΔ± (two /a/ sounds in different syllables)?

Thank you in advance.

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Syllabification in phonetic trancsription

Would appreciate if someone help me with understanding how to properly divide words into syllables. I know main rules, but there are many exceptions and I often make mistakes.

Maybe you know the best ways how to do that or some good sites to learn about that.

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[help] Get rid of syllabification/word splitting

I need help getting rid of syllabification/word splitting at the end of text boxes. What's the best way to do this? Thanks!

Example of what I'm talking about

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Syllabification with /l/ in the coda (a survey!)

Hi LingReddit!

I've noticed an interesting distribution of a phenomenon in my speech patterns - when /l/ occurs in the coda of syllables with certain vowels, the /l/ syllabifies and separates from the previous syllable. For example

<feel> /fil/ > [fi.ʟ̩]

(It's as strongly bisyllabic as <liam> /liΙ™m/ > [li.Ι™m])

For some others, the syllabic /l/ replaces the vowel:

<full> /fʊl/ > [fʟ̩]

For the rest, this does not occur:

<fill> /fΙͺl/ > [fΙͺʟ]

The set of vowels for me where /l/ breaks off to make a new syllable are:

/i/, /u/, /e/, /ɚ/, /aΙͺ/, /Ι”Ιͺ/

The set where /l/ replaces the vowel are:

/ʊ/, /o/, /Ι™/

And the rest:

/Ιͺ/, /Ι›/, /Γ¦/, /Ι‘/

/aʊl/ does something weird - it usually becomes [æʟ], but in very careful speech, it becomes [aʊ.ʟ̩].

I don't have /Ι”/ or /ʌ/ as phonemes - they're completely merged with /Ι‘/ and /Ι™/

So my question to you, oh great LingReddit, is what's your distribution here?

For reference, I'm a 26 year old male native speaker of (Northern) California English.

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[Help] Where can I find free phoneme dictionary text files for syllabification experiments?

I'm trying to run some rule-based and statistical based syllabification algorithms on IPA/Arpabet dictionary files. I was wondering if there were any good free ones, that have the word already syllabified.

The ones I could find were:

  • The CMU Pronouncing Dictionary - I didn't see any symbols to indicate syllable boundaries, but it did have numbers to indicate stress.
  • Moby Project - I'm confused over where syllable boundaries are in the text file.

Any input would be appreciated, thanks!

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Syllabification of the Spanish word "genuino"?

Hopefully this is the right subreddit for a phonology question. I'm wondering how the word genuino is syllabified in Spanish. Does it have three syllables or four? The following are ways I imagine it might be pronounced, but I'm not sure which is correct.

  • /xe.nuˈi.no/
  • /xeˈnwi.no/
  • /xenˈwi.no/
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"This was not my first encounter with lay views of syllabification. My first interest came many years ago, when my older son was in third grade. He brought home one of those ominous notes from his teacher..." languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu…
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I don't understand the following concerning syllabification.

I was reading the following : http://imgur.com/opnmrhl

The part in black I'm not sure of understanding. Could somebody explain me what it's trying to say ?

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Imperfect/Aorist Syllabification

How does one pronounce, i.e. epaideuon: e-pai-deu-on or ep-ai-deu-on?

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Syllabification in present-day English

I'm currently studying John Wells' theory on the subject (as outlined in this article, and applied in the LPD), and am wondering whether anyone knows of any strong critiques/assessments of his account.

Also, if anyone has further (critical/non-critical) insight on this topic, that'd be helpful too!

[Links to any sort of relevant article/paper/book are welcome.]

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Confused about phonetics and syllabification

Ignorant layperson here. There is something I've been confused about for a while. IPA has a symbol for a syllable break. Presumably, that means that the pronunciation changes depending on how a word is divided into syllables. I don't understand how the changed is, though, so please enlighten me.

What is the difference in pronunciation between, say, [ΙΉΙ›.dΙͺt] and [ΙΉΙ›d.Ιͺt]?

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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Renaissance pronunciation of a Greek Titan's Name

Forgive me the impudence, but I have exhausted the usual resources. Hoping someone with a more classical education would know this detail. I would like to figure the Renaissance pronunciation of the Titan Astraea.

This began small and has become a itch I cannot satiate. Between all of the modern references to the name, the lack of consensus in understanding where the syllables occur, and usual internet searches ending I either Google translation or a university website I would need a degree in linguistics to sift through - I am honestly hoping someone in here can shed some light on:

  • Syllable format: Ast-ra-ea, Ast-rae-a (Google), Ast-ra-e-a (textbook), As-tra-ea, As-trae-a (my guess), etc?
  • Which syllable is stressed?
  • Is the first letter soft vocative (father), or hard nasal (fat)?
  • "ae"+"e" or "a"+"ea"
  • "ae" = "i" in pronunciation?
  • "ea" = "EE"+"AA" in pronunciation?

Dear Mods,You look lovely this evening! I realize that this is not strictly Latin per se (being a Greek mythology thing). However, this relates more to pronunciation of a classical name - for which, many of the fine, intelligent, and frankly good looking individuals who have seen fit to join this most sublime subred; would surely have come across in their many required readings. Many such translations being the product of the Renaissance and reprinted today - in which case the Greek Mythologies would have come to us by both the Classical Greek and the Renaissance Latin. Also, it is now a week of looking without a definitive answer and is driving me crazy. Did I mention you look fantastic? Have you lost weight? Please don't remove this post.

Sincerely,

the slightly impenitent, curious one

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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Why did Karen press Ctrl+Shift+Delete?

Because she wanted to see the task manager.

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

They’re on standbi

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Geddit? No? Only me?
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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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E or ß?
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What did Spartacus say when the lion ate his wife?

Nothing, he was gladiator.

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Pun intended.
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No spoilers
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Covid problems
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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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I had a vasectomy because I didn’t want any kids.

When I got home, they were still there.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

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Spi__
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I dislike karma whores who make posts that imply it's their cake day, simply for upvotes.

I won't be doing that today!

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The Ancient Romans II
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I'd like to dedicate this joke to my wisdom teeth.

[Removed]

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Where do you find a cow with no legs?

Where ever you left it πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ€­

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I did it, I finally did it. After 4 years and 92 days I went from being a father, to a dad.

This morning, my 4 year old daughter.

Daughter: I'm hungry

Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

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It this sub dead?

There hasn't been a post all year!

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How do you stop Canadian bacon from curling in your frying pan?

You take away their little brooms

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School Was Clothed
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Remember that joke I told you about the chiropractor?

It was about a weak back.

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