First mistake when making a spelling reform
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TIL that Melvil Dewey, an advocate for spelling reform, gave the former “Adirondack Lodge” its current name of “Adirondak Loj”. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi…
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NOOALF, an english spelling reform made by JO 753. (http://www.nqalf.com/CoRT.htm)
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Spelling reform for English // Spelíng reform for Ínglish (I’ll post some writing in it after this post // Aj’l pojst s’m rajtíng in it aafter this pojst) reddit.com/gallery/rlbepc
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Full English spelling reform based on Vietnamese alphabet (Phul Inglis xpeling riphorm bêsđ on Vietnamix ălphơbet)

Vowels: a /ɑː/ ă /æ/, â /ʌ ~ ə/, e /ɛ/, ê /eɪ/, i /ɪ/, y /iː/, o /ɔ/, ô /oʊ/, ơ /əː/, u /ʊ/, ư /uː/

Consonants: b /b/, c /k/, ch /tʃ/, d /j/, đ /d/, g /g/, gi /dʒ/, h /h/, k /k/, l /l/, m /m/, n n/, nh /ɲ/, p /p/, ph /f/, q /k/, r /ɹ/, s /ʃ/, t /t/, th /θ/ or /ð/, v /v/, w /w/, x /s/ (word initial and final), /z/ (in between vowels)

This is thy như Inglis xpeling riphorm. With thy help ov thy Vietnamix pypl, wy mănigid tư xolv thix problâm in wich thy xpeling of thy Inglis wơrđs tenđ tư not măch thy ăcchưâl prânânxiêsn. With this như xpeling, evrywân on Ơrth căn xpyc Inglis very wel withaut điphicâlty. Xô nau, dư căn phainâly xpyc Inglis laic ơ nêtiv Inglis xpikơr.

/uj This is more of a spelling reform circlejerk than a conlang circlejerk. Although I might soon post more about conlangs here. With that said, mi tawa!

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i want to build a broad/phonemic dictionary for everyday english. it's for my shorthand but i hope to make a contribution to spelling reform. are there any good examples i can learn from?

the idea is to write or type using a 20 letter phonemic alphabet (conventional latin glyphs). my holy grail is to use it in a spell-checker for 2 way translation.

i have some rules. no double consonants. possible vowel doubling. spelling conventions for british, germanic, romantic words (AFAIK that's the only way to make english spelling consistent). i need to use shorter forms where possible so, abomini like telecommunications would be banished.

is this a popular exercise? are there any well known phonemic dictionaries i could refer to?

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Spelling Reform for English (please read the disclaimer)

Disclaimer i don't think this is better than what English has rn, yes it is "phonetic" but a purely phonetic orthography doesn't work with English makes the grammar and distinguishing homophones harder and it also makes word recognition harder. that said here is mine:

ʃ - sc Ash - æsc

sk, s.k -sk Ask - æsk

æ - æ And - ænd

medial ks - cc Access - æccess

final ks - xe

Initial ks - x but normally pronounced /z/

tʃ - c Chin - Cin

Initinal k - k Carrot - Karrot

Medial and final k - ck neck - neck, Acne - Ackene

l̩, m̩, n̩ - le me ne bottle - bottle, rhythm - rithme, Button - buttne

ɪ - i bit - bit

iː - é beet - bét

ɪə, ɪr - ir beer - bir

dʒ - j Jungle - Jungle

g - g

f - f

v - v (f is used when it's an allophone of f, eg. wolf - wolfs)

θ - th

ð - dh (th is used when it's an allophone of θ, eg. rithme)

s - s

z - z (s is used when it's an allophone of s, eg. wolfs)

x - ch

ʒ - zj

w - w

ʍ - wh

h - h

l, m, n - l, m, n

p, b - p, b

t, d - t, d

/tj/ → [tʃ] -

/dj/ → [dʒ] -

/sj/ → [ʃ] -

/zj/ → [ʒ] -

usually one syllable short words u_e

usually multisyllable in longer words medially and initially ue

/juː/ /jər/ are caused by the same yod-coalescence do both are written u_e, ue

j - y

ɑː, æ, ɑ - a

ɒ, ɔ, ɑ - o

ɔː, ɔ, ɑ -

aw for open syllables and á for closed syllables

ɛ - e

ʊ - u

ʌ - û strut - strût

eɪ -

usually one syllable short words a_e face - face

usually multisyllable in longer words medially and initially â basin - bâsin

əʊ, əʊ - ô

usually one syllable short words o_e goat - gote

usually multisyllable in longer words medially and initially ô lower - lôer

uː, u -

ou for open syllables and ó for closed syllables

aɪ -

usually one syllable short words i_e price - price

usually multisyllable in longer words medially and initially î pricing - prîcing

ɔɪ - oi

aʊ -

ow for open syllables and ou for closed syllables

ɜː ɜr -

usually one syllable short words yr_e

usually multisyllable in longer words medially and initially ŷr pricing - nŷrsing

ə - ê comma - commê

ər - ê letter - lettêr

ɑː, ɑr - ar

ɔː, ɔr -

usually one syllable short words or_e price - price

usually multisyllable in longer words medially and initially or

ɪə - ea

ɛː, ɛr -

usually one syllable short words ere square - squere

usually multisyllable in longer words medially and initially er

ʊə, ɔː, ʊr -

usually one syllable short words ure cure - cure

usually mult

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English needs a serious spelling reform
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Why is spelling reform such a popular idea among amateur linguists?

Near full literacy has been achieved in most developed countries regardless of reformed spelling, and illiteracy is only prevelent where school education is not and poor economic conditions exist. For example the four poorest (by GRP per capita) Brazillian states also have the lowest literacy rates. On the flip side both Singapore and Hong Kong achieved near full literacy with similar economic and educational environments despite one using Simplified Chinese and the latter Traditional (obviously, this would have no effect on the non-Chinese population in SG).

So my question is, why, despite the lack of any obvious benefit in literacy and the practical problems it would entail, is spelling reform still thrown around so much by amateur linguists? I can understand a desire for a less prescriptivist approach that would be less hostile to minor errors, especially those caused by dyslexia, but I cannot really see any compelling reasons for spelling reform when one takes into account the problems it would have (dialectal variation, replacement of millions of existing texts).

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AltHistory Indonesian Spelling Reform (If Portugal had managed to maintain Control over Indonesia #2)

Old Spelling (Éjaän Cunó) is even more cursed than the one I posted before (Éjaan Portuguis/Éjaan lhang Diréformasi).

Éjaän Cunó Éjaan lhang Diréformasi Éjaan Républic Éjaan Modérn
Pórcala (cõtracsi dari 'Porto de Calapa') adalah ibo cóta negara Républic Ĩdónéssiä. Pada maça cólóniäl, pelabuhã Çũda Quelapa jatuh quedalam tangã Pórtugal seöacto àhirnha jatuhnha Querajaän Çũda. Cóta Quelapa lalo berfungsi sebagai puçat activitas cólóniäl ontuc Querajaän Pórtugal di Nuçãtara. Cóta Pórcala terquenal acã arquitéctur cólóniäl dã macanã hhas lhang merupacã perpadoän ãtara tradissi culinér daë́rah, dã tradissi culinér Pórtuguis dã pedagang assing laïnnha (terutama chemilã, bàsó, dll.). Maxaracat Pórcala malhóritas terdiri dari órang Çũda, órang Jaöa, dã órang champurã darah Pórtuguis, berçama dengã minóritas quechil Tiónghoä dã órang Érópa queturunã Pórtuguis. Porcala (contracsi dari 'Porto de Calapa') adalah ibu cota negara Républic Indonésia. Pada masa colonial, pelabuhan Sunda Quelapa jatuh quedalam tangan Portugal seúactu àhirnha jatuhnha Querajaan Sunda. Cota Quelapa lalu berfungsi sebagai pusat activitas colonial untuc Querajaan Portugal di Nusantara. Cota Porcala terquenal acan arquitéctur colonial dan macanan hhas lhang merupacan perpaduan antara tradisi culinér daérah, dan tradisi culinér Portuguis dan pedagang asing laïnnha (terutama chemilan, bàso, dll.). Maxaracat Porcala malhoritas terdiri dari orang Sunda, orang Jaúa, dan orang champuran darah Portuguis, bersama dengan minoritas quechil Tionghua dan orang Éropa queturunan Portuguis. Porcala (contracsi dari 'Porto de Calapa') adalah ibu cota negara Républic Indonésia. Pada masa colonial, pelabuhan Sunda Celapa jatuh cedalam tangan Portugal seúactu àhirnha jatuhnha Cerajaan Sunda. Cota Celapa lalu berfungsi sebagai pusat activitas colonial untuc Cerajaan Portugal di Nusantara. Cota Porcala tercenal acan arcitéctur colonial dan macanan hhas lhang merupacan perpaduan antara tradisi culinér daérah, dan tradisi culinér Portugis dan pedagang asing laïnnha (terutama chemilan, bàso, dll.). Maxaracat Porcala malhoritas terdiri dari orang Sunda, orang Jaúa, dan orang champuran darah Portugis, bersama dengan minoritas cechil Tionghua dan orang Éropa ceturunan Portugis. Porcala (contracsi dari 'Porto de Calapa') adalah ibu cota negara Républic Indonésia. Pada masa colo
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If English had another spelling reform, the suffix 'ing' probably would get replaced by 'in'
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Is it even possible now for English to have a spelling reform, and if so, how would/could this occur?

As a native speaker, I think it's about time English had a spelling reform. It's well overdue. I'm not necessarily saying it should be fully phonetic, as most of those look ugly, but there are a lot of inconsistencies that could be touched up.

We don't have a central language academy like other languages, not to mention getting all the English-speaking countries to agree to each change and implementing it. Then there's the fact it's so installed as the international language and heavily used in many other countries. I just can't see how such a thing could possibly happen. Is it a case that it'll just have to happen 'organically' in English?

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TIL The Simplified Spelling Board was an American organization created in 1906 to reform the spelling of the English language, making it simpler and easier to learn. Changes included removal of silent letters ("catalogue" to "catalog"), changing -re endings to -er ("calibre" to "caliber"). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sim…
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Fuck spelling reform, let's have a speach reform

As we know, making a spelling reform is hard. Like it's impossible to make an english writing system that suit all dialects, so get rid dialects and make every one speak the same.

Hmm let's look at French, pretty cool othography right? What if it was spoken like it too :o

Another example is Danish. Written Danish is allright. But spoken? Do you wanna sound drunk or brain damaged? Speak Danish and you get both.

~Sinserely (look at my fancy word usage) a Swede.

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Declaration of human rights article one in my spelling reform

Aul hewmen beeïngz* ar born free and eaqual in dignitee and rights.

*spelled with <ee> because it is in the middle of a word.

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If we're going to reform English spelling, we should replace k with c, not the other way around

In some of the circles I'm in, some people have suggested English spelling reforms which replace 'c' with 'k'. ("cat" becomes "kat", for example) This isn't as good of an idea as it sounds.

The biggest issue is that I can see is that you can't completely get rid of 'c' without something else breaking. The 'ch' sound in a word like "chat" can't be replaced and have people understand what you're saying. Replacing 'k' doesn't cause this. It's easier to say that 'c' sounds like it does in "cat" and 'ch' sounds like it does in "chat"; it's a smaller overall change compared to the latter.

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Consider this my proposal for an English spelling reform! Found on yt
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My English spelling reform

Part 1 (vowels)

This table shows English sounds and the new letters I am using for them.

the "a" in "bat" a
the "a" in "pan" aa
the "a" in "about" ä
the "ai" in "pain" aeiy
the "e" in "pane" 𝑒
the "ea" in "bean" ee
the "ee" in "been" e
the "i" in "bin" и
the "i" in "eye"
the "e" in "pen" eee
the "u" in "unusual" u
the "o" in "office" o
the "o" in "bone" õ
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Objectively the best English (Iஙgliשׁ) spelling reform

The issue with English spelling is that there are more phonemes than letters to represent them. This results in clunky digraphs and unpredictable pronunciation. The obvious solution which I am surprised isn’t more popular is to simply borrow a symbol from another language for each phoneme English doesn’t have a symbol for!

Consonants

Most consonants already have a dedicated letter in English.

b /b/, d /d/, f /f/, g /g/, h /h/, j /dʒ/, k /k/, l /l/, m /m/, n /n/, p /p/, r /r/, s /s/, t /t/, v /v/, w /w/, y /j/, z /z/

The consonants that the current English script does not have symbols for are:

/ʃ/, /tʃ/, /θ/, /ð/, /ʒ/, and /ŋ/.

So symbols are borrowed from other languages and scripts to represent these sounds. To avoid confusion and preserve English’s aesthetic as a language without diacritics, no letters will be taken from other languages that use the latin script.

שׁ /ʃ/ (Hebrew)

छ /tʃ/ (Devanagari)

ث /θ/ (modern standard Arabic)

Δ δ /ð/ (modern Greek)

Ж ж /ʒ/ (Cyrillic)

ங /ŋ/ (Tamil)

Vowels

English has only 5 vowel letters but over 12 vowel sounds. This makes spelling in english very difficult. Luckily, other scripts come to the rescue! Note: I will be using the general American pronunciations for the vowel phonemes because I don’t like the British.

The 5 english vowels represent the sounds they most frequently represent.

a /æ/, e /ɛ/, i /ɪ/, o /ɑ/, u /ʌ/

The vowels that the current English script does not have symbols for are:

/i/, /ʊ/, /u/, /ə/, /ɔ/, /eɪ/, /oʊ/, /aɪ/, /ɔɪ/, and /aʊ/

イ/i/ (Japanese katakana)

ও /ʊ/ (Assamese)

Უ უ /u/ (Georgian)

Ը ը /ə/ (Armenian)

ㅔ/e/ (Korean hangul)

お /o/ (Japanese hiragana)

ଅ /ɔ/ (odia)

Diphthongs are written as digraphs of the two constituent vowels.

ㅔi /eɪ/, おও /oʊ/, ai /aɪ/, ଅi /ɔɪ/, aও /aʊ/

Sample text with spelling reform:

Sumbudイ wuns tおld mイ δը wurld wuz gunუ rおl mイ,

ai ㅔint δը שׁarpist tუl in δը שׁed.

שׁイ wuz lওkiங kaindը dum wiث hur fiஙgur and hur ثum

In δը שׁㅔ ip uv ըn el on hur fଅrhed

Wel, δը yイrs start kუmiங and δㅔi dおওn’t stop kუmiங

Fed tუ δը rუlz and ai hit δը grおওnd runiங

Didn’t mㅔik sens not tუ liv fଅr fun

Yଅr brㅔin gets smart but yଅr hed gets dum

Sおও muछ tუ dუ, sおও muछ tუ sイ

Sおও wuts roங wiث tㅔikiங δը bak strイts

Yუ’l nevur nおও if yუ dおওn’t gおও

Yუ’l nevur שׁain if yუ dおওn’t glおও

Hㅔi naও, yუ’r ըn ol star, get yur gㅔim on, gおও plㅔi

Hㅔi naও, yუ’r

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English ough spelling reform

All instances of /oʊ/, /uː/, /ʌf/, /ɒf/, /ɔː/ except before /ɹ/, or /aʊ/ are written ough.

Example: I am goughing tough gough oughtside. (I am going to go outside.) /aɪ æm ˈɡɪŋ t ɡ ˌtˈsaɪd/

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My Take on an English Spelling Reform (for Canadian English, at least)

I made this spelling reform for English a while after I made one with a lot of diacritics (I made this yesterday), I thought that I should make one for when I am typing on a computer and/or when I can't type with diacritics. I tried my best to make this not absolutely abhorrent, but nothings perfect.

a=æ/ca̠t, ae=ɛ/pe̠t, ai=aɪ/pi̠e̠, au=aʊ/ho̠u̠se, b=b/b̠at, ch=t͡ʃ/c̠h̠air, d=d/d̠ay, dh=ð/t̠h̠e, e=ə/a̠ttack, ei=eɪ/pa̠y̠, eu=ʊ/bo̠o̠k, f=f/f̠etch, g=ɡ/g̠ood, h=h/h̠at, i=ɪ/ki̠tten, ie=i/me̠, j=d͡ʒ/j̠acket, k=k/k̠ey, l=l/l̠augh, m=m/m̠ore, n=n/n̠o, ng=ŋ(ɡ)/sin̠g̠, o=ɒ/ho̠t, oi=oɪ/bo̠y̠, ou=oʊ/go̠, p=p/p̠art, r=ɹ/r̠at, s=s/s̠aturday, sh=ʃ/s̠h̠ine, t=t/t̠ime, th=θ/t̠h̠ink, u=u/yo̠u̠, v=v/v̠ent, w=w/w̠ater, y=j/y̠es, z=z/z̠ig-z̠ag, zh=ʒ/viz̠ion

I am really sorry that I didn't put this in a table, I'm really bad at making them on Reddit. I also put examples of the sounds just incase one of you all don't know the I.P.A. (International Phonetic Alphabet).

The example I chose to put for this script is an English translation of the Greek National Anthem, because I am proud of my Greek heritage and also because I like the Greek anthem more than the Canadian one:

Ai shal olweiz raekignaiz yu

bai dhe jraedeul sourd yu hould,

az dhie Erth with serching vizhin

yu servei with spierit bould.

Frem dhe Grieks ev ould huz daiying

brot teu laif and sprierit frie,

nau with einshint valour raizing

laet es heieul yu, ou Libertie!

nau with einshint valour raizing

laet es heieul yu, ou Libertie!

nau with einshint valour raizing

laet es heieul yu, ou Libertie!

I hoped you all liked it!

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My other new spelling reform for English. Sus

Every consonant phoneme is s,every vowel is u,every cluster is z. Example Sentence Su zus zus suz suz usu su susu sus(The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog)

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Spelling reform for all languages (Including your conlang(s))

[Original Post - read before this]

^(Bilabial) (m) ^(LDental) (v) ^(Aveolar) (t) ^(Post-Alv) (tj) ^(Retroflex) (r) ^(Palatal) (j) ^(Velar) (k) ^(Uvular) (q) ^(Glottal) (h)
^(Stop) (__p) ^(/p/ tmp /b/ dmp) ^(/t/ ttp /d/ dtp) ^(/ʈ/ trp /ɖ/ drp) ^(/c/ tjp /ɟ/ djp) ^(/k/ tkp) ^(/g/ dkp) ^(/q/ tqp /ɢ/ dqp) ^(/ʔ/ thp)
^(Affricate) (__x) ^(/p͡ɸ/ tmx /b͡β/ dmx) ^(/p͡f/ tmvx /b͡v/ dmvx) ^(/t͡s/ ttx /d͡z/ dtx) ^(/t͡ʃ/ ttjx /d͡ʒ/ dtjx) ^(/ʈ͡ʂ/ trx /ɖ͡ʐ/ drx) ^(/c͡ç/ tjx /ɟ͡ʝ/ djx) ^(/k͡x/ tkx /g͡ɣ/ dkx) ^(/q͡χ/ tqx /ɢ͡ʁ/ dqx) ^(/ʔ͡h/ thx)
^(Nasal) (__n) ^(/m/ dmn) ^(/ɱ/ dvn) ^(/n/ dtn) ^(/ɳ/ drn) ^(/ɲ/ djn) ^(/ŋ/ dkn) ^(/ɴ/ dqn)
^(Trill) (__rr) ^(/ʙ/ dmrr) ^(/r/ dtrr) ^(/ɽ͡r/ drrr) ^(/ʀ/ dqrr)
^(Tap) (__r) ^(/ⱱ/ dvr) ^(/ɾ/ dtr) ^(/ɽ/ drr)
^(Fricative) (__f) ^(/ɸ/ tmf /β/ dmf) ^(/f/ tvf /v/ dvf) ^(/θ/ ttf /ð/ dtf) ^(/ç/ tjf /ʝ/ dtf) ^(/x/ tkf /ɣ/ dkf) ^(/χ/ tqf /ʁ/ dqf) ^(/h/ thf /ɦ/ dhf)
^(Sibilant) (__s) ^(/s/ tts /z/ dts) ^(/ʃ/ ttjs /ʒ/ dtjs) ^(/ʂ/ trs /ʐ/ drs) ^(/ɕ/ tjs /ʑ/ djs)
^(Lat. Fric.) (__lf) ^(/ɬ/ ttlf /ɮ/ dtlf)
^(Approx.) (__w) ^(/ʍ/ tkmw /w/ dkmw) ^(/ʋ/ dvw) ^(/ɹ/ dtw) ^(/ɻ/ drw) ^(/j/ djw) ^(/ɰ/ dkw)
^(Lat. Apx.) (__lw) ^(/l/ dtlw) ^(/ɭ/ drlw) ^(/ʎ/ djlw) ^(/ʟ/ dklw)

Other Pulmonic Consonants:

  • Pharyngeal Fricatives /ħ/ t?f and /ʕ/ d?f
  • Epiglottal Fricatives /ʜ/ t#f and /ʢ/ d#f, and Plosive /ʡ/ t#p/d#p
  • Labiopalatal Approximant /ɥ/ dmjw
  • Alveolar Lateral Flap /ɺ/ dtlr
  • Sje-sound /ɧ/ ttjkf
  • Co-articulated /k͡p/ tkmp/tmkp and /g͡b/ dkmp/dmkp

Clicks:

  • Bilabial Click /ʘ/ tm!
  • Dental Click /ǀ/ tt!
  • Post-Alveolar Click /ǃ/ ttj!
  • Palatal Click /ǂ/ tj!
  • Lateral Click /ǁ/ ttl!

Implosives:

  • Bilabial /ɓ/ dmb
  • Alveolar /ɗ/ dtb
  • Palatal /ʄ/ djb
  • Velar /ɠ/ dkb
  • Uvular /ʛ/ dqb

Ejectives:

  • Bilabial /p'/ tmpp
  • Alveolar /t'/ ttpp
  • Alveolar Sibilant /s'/ ttss
  • etc...
Front (_e) Central (_a) Back (_o)
Close (i_) /i/ ie /y/ iew /ɨ/ ia /ʉ/ iaw /ɯ/ io /u/ iow
Close-mid (e(i)_) /e/ e(i)e /ø/ e(i)ew /ɘ/ e(i)a /ɵ/ e(i)aw /ɤ/ e(i)o /o/ e(i)ow
Open-mid (e(a)_) /ɛ/ e(a)e /œ/ e(a)ew /ɜ/ e(a)a /ɞ/ e(a)aw /ʌ/ e(a)o /ɔ/ e(a)ow
Open
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My take on spelling reform for Anglish and English.

I wanted to make a more phonetic spelling system for Anglish so it would be easier to write the words out. While my first versions were easy to write with, I did not like how the spelling looked because, in my opinion, it looked ugly. So I improved it. I tried to make this new version to be a compromise between being more phonetic and looking good. I have made this spelling reform for my personal use, but I decided to post it here. Maybe some of you will like it. Now I'm not asking this to be adopted as the official spelling reform for Anglish for spelling reform is not the main goal of Anglish anyway.

Letter - IPA sound values - ( letter name in IPA ).

A a - /ɑ:/, /ɑ/, /ʌ/ - ( /ɑ:/ ) | Æ æ - /æ/ - ( /æʃ/ or /æ/ ) | B b - /b/ - ( /bɛ:/ ) | C c - /tʃ/ - ( /tʃɛ:/ ) |

D d - /d/ - ( /dɛ:/ ) |Ð ð - /ð/ - ( /ðæt/ or /ɛð/ ) | E e - /ɛ/, /ɛ:/, /ə/ - ( /ɛ:/ ) | F f - /f/, /v/ - ( /ɛf/ ) |

G g - /g/ - ( /gɛ:/ ) | H h - /h/ - ( /hɑ:/ ) | I i - /ɪ/, /i:/ - ( /i:/ ) | J j - /j/ - ( /jɛ:/ or /jɔt/ ) |K k - /k/, /kʰ/ - ( /kɑ:/ ) |

L l - /l/ - ( /ɛl/ ) | M m - /m/ - ( /ɛm/ ) | N n - /n/ - ( /ɛn/ ) | O o - /oʊ/, /o:/ - ( /o:/ ) | P p - /p/ - ( /pɛ:/ ) |

R r - /r/ - ( /ɑ:r/ ) | S s - /s/, /z/ - ( /ɛs/ ) | T t - /t/ - ( /tɛ:/ ) | Þ þ - /θ/ - ( /θɔrn/ ) | U u - /u:/, /u/, /ʊ/ - ( /u:/ ) |

W w - /w/ - ( /twɪn u:/ or /wɛ:/ ) | X x - /ks/ - ( /ɛks/ ) | Y y - /i:/ - ( /wi:/ ) | Å å - /ɔ:/, /ɔ/, /ɒ/ - ( /ɔ:/ ) |

⁊ - /ænd/ - ( /ænd/ ) |

Diagraphs and letter combinations

Dg dg - /dʒ/ | Sc sc - /ʃ/ | Ck ck - /k/ | Cw cw - /kw/ | Ch ch - /x/, /ç/ | Ng ng - /ŋ/ | Ss ss - /s/ |

Ff ff - /f/ | Nk nk - /ŋk/ |

Ai ai - /aɪ/ | Ay ay - /aɪ/ | Ei ei - /eɪ/ | Ey ey - /eɪ/ | Oa oa - /ɔ/ | Au au - /aʊ/ | Uu uu - /u:/ |

Oi oi - /ɔɪ/ | Ee ee - /ɛə/ | /Oo oo - /o:/ | Ew ew - /u:/, /ju:/ | Ju - /ju:/ |

Extra letters for spelling out dialects:

Ø ø - /ø/, /ø:/, /œ/ | Ý ý - /y:/, /y/ | Example bird in Geordie bød /bøːd/

Letters and a diagraph for modern English

Z z - /z/ - ( /zɛ:/ or /zɛd/ ) {only spelled out in loan words} | V v - /v/ - ( /vɛ:/ ) {only for spelling out loan words} | Ĝ ĝ - /dʒ/ - ( /dʒɛ:/ ) {only for spelling out loan words} |

Sz sz - /ʒ/ {only for spelling out loan words} |

Examples:

1 Ay laik drinking wåter. 2 Wy ar going tu ðe wåld 3 Ðæt is an æppel 4 Ðis is an yfel sted 5 Ar ju ðe mæn ðæt aim luking foar? 6 Wat is ðæt þing? 7 Ay þink þry folks lyf in ðæt haus. 8 Ay nyd tu bay sam myt.

Wy hold ðys truþs tu by selfsattel, ðæt åll men ar bårn yfen, ðæt

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An English Spelling Reform. reddit.com/gallery/odmacn
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fk spelling reform, let's have speech reform 2.0

letters are (mostly) pronounced as the ipa symbol

insert a schwa between any 2 consonants that don't combine well, inc double stops

multigraphs:

  • h after obstruent denotes aspiration of that obstruent eg ph /pʰ/
  • wh /ʍ/, wr /rʷ/, rh /r̥ʰ/
  • most double letters = lonɡ sound, eɡ ee = /eː/, ss = /sː/
  • apostrophe = ejective after voiceless obstruents, glo'al stop after voiced sounds

eg conlangscirclejerk = /conlangəsəcirəcəlejerək/

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my very simple spelling reform

if a word has "gh" in it no it doesn't

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French spelling reform

Instead of using the digraph "ge" for when the letter g is to be pronounced soft in front of a hard vowel (i.e. in mangeons,), attach a cedilla to the g.

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My Take on an English-Language Spelling Reform

This post is outdated, go to the pinned post on my profile for an updated one.

Alphabet: ABCDEÉFGHIÍJKLMNOÓPRSTUÚVWYZ (28 letters)

Phonology:

Letter: Sound(s): Letter: Sound(s):
Aa /ɑ/~/æ/~/a/^([1]) Mm /m/
Bb /b/ Nn /n/
Cc /tʃ/ Oo /ɔ/~/o/^([5])
Dd /d/ Óó /ɒ/
Ee /ə/^([2]) Pp /p/
Éé /ɛ/~/e/^([3]) Rr /ɹ/
Ff /f/ Ss /s/
Gg /g/ Tt /t/
Hh /h/ Uu /ʌ/
Ii /ɪ/~/j/^([4]) Úú /u/~/ʊ/^([6])
Íí /i/ Vv /v/
Jj /dʒ/ Ww /w/
Kk /k/ Yy /j/
Ll /l/ Zz /z/

[1] Due to how much dialectal variation there is with these sounds, and the lack of minimal pairs (maybe pam and palm, but some dialects pronounce the "l" so that can be retained", these will be represented with the letter A; /a/ is a part of "ai".)

[2] I used to have Əə as its own letter, but due to font compatibility and display issues, along with typeability issues I replaced it with E and changed what was formerly represented by E to É.

[3] /ɛ/ as in "bet" and /e/ as in the first part of the diphthong in "say".

[4] Only represents /j/ in words like "few" (fiú, just for aesthetic purposes.)

[5] /ɔ/ as in or, bought (w/o cot-caught merger, etc; and /o/ for the /oʊ/~/əʊ/ sound "ou".)

[6] An exception is made only in words where the /ʊ/ sound is an essential sound; such as in "wood", "good", "cook", "book", "bull", and so forth. In this case it's represented with "uu" (wuud, guud, kuuk, etc. However in words like "uranium", it's spelled with a Ú (yúréiníem.)

Other sounds are represented through digraphs such as th, dh, wh, sh, zh, ai, ei, oi, au, ou, etc.

For an example of how the reform looks, and how I transliterate words to this reform (I don't base it off of my own pronunciation), check out my profile.

Update: I didn't realize I had accidentally written /m/ down in the IPA section of the letter N, this has been fixed.

Update 2: the formatting for this post is a little messy in old Reddit, but displays fine in new Reddit.

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English spelling reform for dentists

All labial (and possibly dental for conservative speakers) consonants are shifted back until they are no longer labial or dental. ("W" now represents /ɰ/) "The qwick drown thox junts other the lazy dog"

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In their video "most English spelling reforms are bad", jan Misali claims that "if English speakers all agreed to stop correcting each other's spelling, all irregularities in English spelling would disappear within a generation." Is this true?

Basically, his video claims that, if this happened, words that were spelled strangely would automatically begin to be spelled in easier to remember ways. Is there any sort of evidence or conjecture to support this idea, or is the development of spelling more complicated than that?

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My country recently decided to undergo a spelling reform to make certain words "less gendered" and now the public is split in two about it

Including me.

So, as many of you maybe know, or heard jokes about, we Germans have a very specific form of grammar.

In comparision to English, German is a very gendered language. Having male, female and neutral words, but also using for many things the male version as for the neutral terms of certain words. F.ex. Administrator is in our language both a neutral term for "Admin" as well as "male Admin".

And as you maybe know even less, we Germans have fought over every piece of our language since the time we started talking it.

Is it "Semmelknödel", or "Semmelnknödel"? Is it wrong to write "daß" instead of "dass"? If there's a neutral word for Studenten*innen (Studierende), is there a neutral word for X...and so on. Now, my country decided to radically reform a lot of terms that have the male term as the neutral term. Often bricking down words in long, complicated terms just to make them more inclusive. And as you could suspect...things start heating up again in the language department.

One of these people include me. I'm currently watching heated debates in my linguistic college groups and I just feel...torn? about the whole situation?

Like...on one side, I can understand that it could further inclusivity. Especially for nonbinary people, but also in general. A lot of my fellow students talk about how to make things more equal, the language has to become more equal as well and Idk, I guess it's right?

On the other side...

...I just can't help, but to do not care about it. Like...I just feel like it's one of those useless little reforms that is paraded around as a stepstone in equality, while other, more important things are still getting overlooked. When I grew up, none of the kids and me ever cared if "Anfänger" (beginner) was "neutral" enough. I never felt excluded from my language. Okay, sometimes I find it ironic how many languages set male terms as the standard, but I rather had problems with cases where girls got discriminated for the dumb, everyday stereotypes, then fking language.

It's just...I feel like people here automatically think that, raising your kids to say "Programmierende" (people that program) or "Programmierer & Programmiererinnen" (programmer) will better women's chances in those jobs, because "PC talk" (badumm-tss).

And Idk. I really feel torn on this. Every side seems to have good arguments for their idea and as linguistic students, it's also going to affect our future writings. Which also brings the idea of po

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Update of my English Spelling Reform.
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Runic spelling reform for Modern English (version 3, I think)

Yet another one of my Modern English Runic spelling reforms.

This one tries to be more authentic than my last few.

This is mainly fitted to my own dialect (General American with pin-pen and cot-caught mergers), but can be used with others.

ᚫ /æ/

ᚪ /ɑ/, /ə/ (also /ɒ/, /ʌ/ for other dialects)

ᚩ /ɔ/

ᛒ /b/

ᚳ /tʃ/

ᛣ /k/

ᛡ or ᛄ /j/

ᛝ /ŋ/

ᚦ /θ/, /ð/

ᛖ /ɛ/

ᛠ /æɔ/ (/aʊ/ in other dialects)

ᚢ /ʊ/, /ʉu/ (/u(ː)/ in other dialects)

ᚣ /y/, /ɨ/ (for loanwords)

ᚹ /w/

ᚠ /f/, /v/

ᛉ /ks/, /ɡz/

ᚻ /h/

ᛁ /ɪ/, /i/

ᛇ /x/, /ꭓ/, /ʁ̥/ (for loanwords)

ᛚ /ɫ/, /ʟ/, /ʟ̩/ (or any other L sound)

ᛗ /m/

ᚾ /n/

ᚷ /dʒ/

ᚸ /ɡ/

ᛟ /œ/, /ø/ (for lonewords)

ᛈ /p/

ᛞ /d/, non-rhotic (t/d-flapped) /ɾ/

ᚱ /ɹ/, /ɚ/ (or any other rhotic sound)

ᛋ or ᚴ /s/, /z/

ᛕ /ʃ/, /ʒ/ (ᚴ+ᚳ bindrune)

ᛏ /t/

Diphtɡongs other than /æɔ/ and /ʉu/:

ᚪᚢ /əɔ/ (/oʊ/ in other dialects)

ᚪᛁ /ae/ (/aɪ/ in other dialects)

ᚩᛁ /ɔe/ (/ɔɪ/ in other dialects)

ᛖᛁ /ɛe/ (/eɪ/ in other dialects)

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My take on a spelling reform. Sorry if it doesn’t belong here
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I'd hate to be an etymologist in a language with spelling reform
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How would you feel if English-speaking countries came together for an orthographic reform, so we started spelling laughter 'lafter' and slaughter 'slotter'?
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Primary Considerations for my English-Language Spelling Reform / Praimérí Kensideréishenz for mai Inglish-Langwij Speling Riform

Note, this post is largely outdated, but a few things remain the same. I still follow all of point three, and recognize that font compatibility and typeability are important issues, but for that I have Ëë as an accepted alternative to Əə in the case that you can't type the latter or it doesn't display.

The information about the alphabet at the end of the first point is outdated as well, see my most recent post detailing the updated orthography ( A-Z (minus Q and X), and Ə, Ä, Ö (not in order); which adds up to 27 characters total. )

Əə displays well in most fonts, it's just that it looks a bit off in some fonts (but still readable). In completely incompatible fonts it just displays as a box.

The updated title for this post would be "Praimery Kənsidəreishənz för mai Inglish-Langwic Speling Riförm"

  1. Typeability - The ability for the reform to be efficiently typed needs to be prioritized. Taken into consideration is the number of letters to type (including A-Z, the diacritics if any, and other characters if any), compatibility with already-existing keyboard layouts (especially considering that you can't just use custom keyboard layouts or copy/paste on all devices), and so forth. This means that there needs to be a compromise between ligatures and diacritics/special characters, which I believe mine does: with only the base A-Z (minus Q and X), and É Í Ó Ú; which adds up to 28 characters total.
  2. Font compatibility - I used to have the mid-central vowel represented by the schwa letter (Əə) until I realized that a good chunk of fonts and devices just don't support it and it shows up as a box or a letter from a different font, or it technically does but it's just slightly off enough to be annoying (ə is almost always slightly bolder and more compact than e, or its spacing is messed up, or it's lower than the e, etc.) Which is why I reluctantly used e to represent the mid-central vowel and é to represent /ɛ/ instead (so my current reform has a bit more diacritic-density than I'd like, but the font-compatibility and typeability outweighs the aesthetics here overall, and I've seen real languages (and proposed reforms) that are much worse on this).
  3. Older and unmerged pronunciations - Far too often do I see English spelling reform projects just reflect the reformer's pronunciation, and many words that would otherwise be unmerged in some dialects are spelled the same in their new system. Or, they go for some sort of compromise spelling be
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My new spelling reform for English. Angmag.

Front vowels are A Back/rounded vowels are o Bilabial nasal & all other sonorants are m Alveolar & Velar nasal is ng All obstruents are g

Example: ga gmag gmong gog gomg oga ga maga gog(The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog)

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Are there any English spelling reforms based of off Old English?
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Spelling reform, with letter names mostly based on the revived/Anglish names of Runes

This is to make English (and Anglish) more phonetic.

A a - /ə/ - cad (cud)

Á á - /ɑ/ - áx (ox)

Æ æ - /æ/ - æš (ash)

Å å - /æɔ/ - såŗ (sour)

B b - /b/ - bŗč (birch)

C c - /k/ - cælc (calk)

Č č - /tʃ/ - čín (cheen)

Ĉ ĉ - /tɹ̝̊/ - ĉí (tree)

G g - /ɡ/ - gar (gar)

Ǧ ǧ - /j/ - ǧiv (yive)

Ȝ ȝ - /ꭓ/ - loȝ (loch)

D d - /d/ - dé (day)

Ď ď - /ɾ/ - cæďļ (cattle)

Ð ð - /ð/ - ðæt (that)

Þ þ - /θ/ - þorn (thorn)

E e - /ɛ/, /e̞/ - eldŗ (elder)

É é - /ɛe/ - éc (ache)

V v - /v/ - ví (vee)

U u - /ʊ/ - gud (good)

Ú ú - /ʉu/ - nú (new)

W w - /w/ - win (win)

Y y - /ae/ - ys (ice)

F f - /f/ - fí (fee)

H h - /h/ - héļ (hail)

Ƕ ƕ - /ʍ/ - ƕer (whear)

Z z - /z/ - zyļ (zile)

Ž ž - /ʒ/ - žyļ (zhile)

Ç ç - /ç/ - çú (hue)

I i - /ɪ/ - iz (is)

Í í - /i/ - íz (ease)

J j - /dz/ - ej (edze)

J̌ ǰ - /dʒ/ - eǰ (edge)

Ĵ ĵ - /dɹ̝/ - ĵyv (drive)

X x - /ks/ - elx (elks)

L l - /ɫ/, /ʟ/ - lé (lay)

Ļ ļ - /ʟ̩/ - ļd (old)

M m - /m/ - men (man)

N n - /n/ - nyd (nide)

Ŋ ŋ - /ŋ/ - íŋ (ing)

O o - /ɔ/ - or (or)

Ó ó - /əɔ/ - óc (oak)

Ø ø - /ɔe/ - bøļ (boil)

P p - /p/ - pírþ (peerth)

Q q - /ʔ/ - bryqn (brighten)

R r - /ɹ/, /ɚ/ - ród (road)

Ŗ ŗ - /ɚ/ - ŗþ (earth)

S s - /s/ - syļ (sile)

Š š - /ʃ/ - šyļ (shile)

T t - /t/ - tú (tue)

Ţ ţ - /ts/ - ţú (tsue)

Sample text:

Ál wŗlí bíǧíŋz ár born frí end alyc in wŗðínis end ryţ. Ðé ár giftid wið ríð end inwit end šud bíhév tworj wan anaðŗ in a myndset av braðŗhud.

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My very useful, intuitive and easy English Spelling Reform®™

I call it Iedkntkpdtlwiettjs (/ɪŋglɪʃ/). It's based on my dialect of BE but can be adapted for any dialect or even any language.

Iedkntkpdtlwiettjs's words are spelled entirely phonetically with graphemes of about 2-5 letters, which are constructed based on their phonemic features such as voicing and Place of Articulation.

  • Voiced: d

  • Voiceless: t

  • Bilabial: m

  • Labiodental: v

  • Alveolar: t

  • Palato-alveolar: tj

  • Palatal: j

  • Velar: k

  • Glottal: h

  • Lateral: l

  • Stop: p

  • Fricative: f

  • Approximant: w

  • Affricate: x

  • Sibilant: s

  • Nasal: n

Labial (_m,v_), Dental (_t_) Alveolar (_t_) Post-Alveolar (_tj_) Palatal (_j_) Velar (_k_) Glottal (_h_)
Nasal (d_n) /m/ dmn /n/ dtn /ŋ/ dkn
Voiced Stop (d_p) /b/ dmp /d/ dtp /dʒ/ dtjx /g/ dkp
Voiceless Stop (t_p) /p/ tmp /t/ ttp /tʃ/ ttjx /k/ tkp (/ʔ/ thp)
Voiced Fricative (d_f,s) /v/ dvf /ð/ dtf /z/ dts /ʒ/ dtjs
Voiceless Fricative (t_f) /f/ tvf /θ/ ttf /s/ tts /ʃ/ ttjs (/ç/ tjf) (/x/ tkf) /h/ thf
Approx. (d_w) /w/ dmkw /l/ dtlw /r/ dtw /j/ djw /w/ dmkw
  • Front: e

  • Central: a

  • Back: o

  • Close: i

  • Mid: e

  • Open: a

  • Long: VV

  • Rounded: w

  • Short/reduced: h

  • Diaeresis: V'V

Front Short (_e) Front Long (__ee) Central Short (_a) Central Long (__aa) Back Short (_o) Back Long (__oo)
Close (i_) /ɪ/ KIT ie(h) /iː/ FLEECE iiee /ʊ, ə/ FOOT iaw(h), ea(h) /uː/ GOOSE iiooww
Mid (e_) /ɛ/ DRESS ee /eː/ SQUARE eeee /ə/ COMMA ea(h) /ɜː/ NURSE eeaa /ɔː/ NORTH aaooww
Open (a_) /a/ TRAP ae /ʌ/ STRUT aa /ɒ/ LOT aow /ɑː/ START aaoo
/eɪ/ FACE eeie(h) /ʌɪ/ PRICE aaie(h) /ɔɪ/ CHOICE aowie(h) /aʊ/ MOUTH aeiaw(h) /əʊ/ GOAT eaiaw(h) /ɪə, ɪː/ NEAR ieea, iiee(h) /ʊə, əː/ CURE iaw(h)ea,eeaa(h)

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

Aaoowwdtlw tjfiioowdmneadtn dmpiiee'iedkndts aaoo dmpaaoowwdtn tvfdtwiiee aedtndtp iieetkpdmkweadtlw iedtn dtpiedkpdtniettpiieeh aedtndtp dtwaaiettptts.

What do you think? Could this catch on?

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Would you support a comprehensive reform of English spelling to be more phonetic? Why or why not?
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If english use a logographic script like chinese do, it won't need a spelling reform
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My Take on an English-Language Spelling Reform

(No longer the most up-to-date one, see here)

This represents the newer updated phonology, for the older one see the other post on my profile.

(Work in Progress)

Alphabet: AÄBCDEÉFGHIÍJKLMNOÖPRSTUVWYZ (28 letters)

Phonology:

Letter: Sound(s): Letter: Sound(s):
Aa /ɑ/~/æ/~/a/^([1]) Ll /l/
Ää /ɒ/^([2]) Mm /m/
Bb /b/ Nn /n/
Cc /tʃ/ Oo /ʌ/^([6])
Dd /d/ Öö /ɔ/
Ee /ə/^([3]) Pp /p/
Éé /ɛ/~/e/^([4]) Rr /ɹ/
Ff /f/ Ss /s/
Gg /g/ Tt /t/
Hh /h/ Uu /u/~/ʊ/^([7])
Ii /ɪ/~/j/^([5]) Vv /v/
Íí /i/ Ww /w/
Jj /dʒ/ Yy /j/
Kk /k/ Zz /z/

[1] Because of how much dialectal variation there is with these sounds, and the lack of minimal pairs (maybe pam and palm, but some dialects pronounce the "l" so that can be retained", these will be represented with the letter A; /a/ is a part of "ai".)

[2] The umlaut indicates rounding of the letter without the umlaut, and the acute accent indicates that it has nothing to do with the unaccented letter and doesn't modify it in any way but is rather a different sound altogether.

[3] I used to have Əə as its own letter, but because of font compatibility and display issues, along with typeability issues I replaced it with E and changed what was formerly represented by E to É.

[4] /ɛ/ as in "bet" and /e/ as in the first part of the diphthong in "say".

[5] Only represents /j/ in words like "few" (fiu, just for aesthetic purposes.)

[6] In words like “version”, “bird”, the -er and -ir have the /ɜ/ or /ɜɹ/ sound, this also represents the /ʌɹ/ sound in some words depending on your dialect.

[7] Due to the low number of minimal pairs (cook, kook; pull, pool; etc.) and how context can easily distinguish between them, and because of how /ʊ/ doesn’t occur at the beginning of words or often as part of a monophthong in English, they’re represented with the same letter.

Other sounds are represented through digraphs such as th, dh, wh, sh, zh, ée, ai, éi, öi, au, eu, etc. “Eu” however, represents the /oʊ/~/əʊ/ sound (this reform doesn’t have a letter for the /o/ sound and does just fine without it, so instead it’s represented with the latter sound), and not like “eu” is pronounced in Portuguese (this would be represented with éu).

Also due to the lack of any letters representing /o/, words like horse and hoarse are spelled the same (they’re differentiate

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