There is No Rational Basis to Conclude Brendan Dassey is Guilty of Murder Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

This post deals exclusively with the notion that there is not one single reasonable doubt that Brendan committed the actual crime of murder, and is not intended to refute the idea he might have been involved in the murder but was definitely at least involved in the aftermath (the "he's at least guilty of something" theory).

First of all, the major piece of evidence is his alleged confession. However, everyone on the sub should be aware that false confessions do occur. Brendan's age, his documented learning disability, and the manner in which he was treated all played a role. Some might say paid experts are just hired guns who say anything, but it's not rational to read an article by a neutral third party such as this and still say there is no reasonable doubt at all about the validity of the information. And it's not like that's just two people's unpopular opinion, is it?

Add in Brendan's inability to describe details of the crime known only to the police or originate any leads that were later verified, and the answer is clear: Brendan's confession alone cannot provide the basis of a beyond reasonable doubt conclusion, without arbitrarily declaring a ton of expert knowledge to be flatly wrong. That cannot be said to be a rational approach.

What about the alleged confession to his mom? Even if you ignore all the problems with that, he only confesses to "some of it" being true. There is nothing at all that indicates he committed murder as opposed to accessory after the fact.

The same with the alleged confession to his cousin. Again, even ignoring all the problems I don't recall there being anything in any of that which specified the actual murder as opposed to the cleanup.

Additionally, all the weight of the evidence has Brendan at home playing video games until evening. Between the statements of Fabian and Earl, statements of Dassey family members, phone calls with Jodi, and the call with Brendan's brother's boss, everything points to Brendan being with Avery around a loose estimate 7 to 9 window.

Now remember during this window Brendan allegedly scrubs a pool of blood not once, not twice, but three times over. And they had to drive over the yard not just to get all the rubbish Avery admitted to collecting, but tires too. They also had to get the fire going

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Natural origin hypothesis has not been completely debunked and lab leak hypothesis has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Bigger point is get more comfortable with uncertainty, and be on the look out for people who claim facts and speak in an absolute sense.

Something people are very aversive to is uncertainty. I am too. I hate being in Schrodinger's cat. I remember in my Organic chemistry lab course from almost 4 years ago a lesson on how to deal with uncertainties in the products we created.

In organic and medicinal chemistry, you spend a lot of time postulating mechanisms of actions of how which bonds between atoms break and form. And there are many rules we have observed, but there is also a lot of highly debated theorized mechanisms of action. There is a lot we don't know.

I am posting this mini-breaking point/radar of mine just to remind you all that all of the evidence we have seen on COVID origins has been circumstantial or historical. We still cannot speak with certainty or claim one hypothesis is fact over the other.

The video I posted earlier by Ryan Grim is explaining how Dr. Fauci put a finger on the scales of the discourse. This doesn't prove the lab leak hypothesis. it only proves that America's instutions are falliable, and civil society that includes lots of subject matter experts is integral to ensuring we have intellectually honest debates on really important topics.

At the end of the day, we will probably never know for sure how COVID-19 started, but that doesn't mean we throw up our hands.

That means we should be instituting prevention protocols to prevent future pandemics. That includes a possible ban on gain of function research, factory farming (at least in its current implementation), and on wet markets. That includes discussions around reducing the contact between humans and bats and other species that have homogenized in both the lab and out in the world. This also means funding and setting up independent audits of our institutions by subject matter experts with no conflicts of interest.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Manoj_Malhotra
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Got Tortured and Nearly Killed, Incident Covered Up, Sacrificed Five Years of my Life to a Lawsuit, Got Factual Proof Beyond Reasonable Doubt, Still Nothing on the Table

I don't know where to even begin.

I found out I wasn't the only one, they literally had a torture ring in 2015 which wasn't addressed until 2018, and I was one of the victims.

There is no dispute about the facts. I was tortured and almost killed. It happened under a camera and in front of witnesses. I was not resisting. I was polite and broke no laws. They got upset that I invoked my right to silence, and I was tortured and almost killed. That has been factually established to the point of proof beyond a reasonable doubt in federal court.

These cases are not viable from a business standpoint, so lawyers won't take them. First the lawyers said they wouldn't take my case because there's no video. So I went through discovery in federal court by myself with absolutely no help from anyone, and it turns out they were just lying the whole time that the camera doesn't record - it does record. The eye witnesses admitted to watching and that I was not resisting. The cops admitted exactly to what they did in the original incident report. It just got covered up by the office, internal affairs, the county, and the lawyers.

So I had to deal with 2 years of full-on frivolous litigation with absolutely no legal merit in their contentions. I "made it passed summary judgment" which apparently just accepted standard procedure whether it's warranted or not.

I worked with the "pro bono project" who helped me nada. I did everything right (*see footnote). Then I got a pro bono representative 5 months ago. He has not talked to me once. I have tried to talk to him, never got a return call. He is now saying that I never sent him the documents that I sent him. I showed him the emails where I sent the files. He's saying openly in email that he's not willing to advocate for me, and I can't expect more than what equates to a dead stinky fish in damages. I told him at our initial meeting what I wanted to aim for in damages. When I told him what I want (less than a third of what I said in our initial meeting), he responded that he is going to ask the court to take him off the case.

The thing is is that at this point it isn't just about the damages from the incident - it's also the fact that I should not have had to sacrifice 5 years of my life just to get offered a dead fish by my attorney as compensation for the incident. These 5 years constitute additional damages.

I am saying I got deliberately tortured, and that there was an objectively high chance of no

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Key-Ad-2441
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Horseshoe theory proven beyond a reasonable doubt
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Most crimes will never be prosecuted. Collecting evidence beyond a reasonable doubt requires <50% of crimes be prosecuted.
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MAXWELL WILL NOT TESTIFY; SAYS PROSECUTION HAS NOT PROVEN THEIR CASE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/gomezdesigner
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I seen Akademiks putting out bogus ass videos, Lemme say this Mellys team is going for "Aquital" not "Innocent" Note that an acquittal does not mean that the defendant is innocent in a criminal case it means that the prosecutor failed to prove that the defendant was guilty β€œbeyond a reasonable doubt
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πŸ‘€︎ u/currtii
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JUST IN: A Manila court acquits activist Cora Agovida and urban poor organizer Michael Bartolome due to prosecution’s failure to prove beyond reasonable doubt the ownership/possession of firearms/explosives
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Some of the nation’s most prominent former prosecutors, judges, and solicitor generals from across the ideological spectrum have asked the Supreme Court to review a controversial Georgia procedure that requires defendants to prove they have intellectual disability β€œbeyond a reasonable doubt” davisvanguard.org/2021/12…
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New Mike Block track : Beyond Reasonable Doubt soundcloud.com/pentium-pr…
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What proof would convince you that beyond a reasonable doubt that aliens exist?
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The Girl In The Barrel - Reyna Marroquin - Is A Tragic True Crime On A Number Of Fronts HBO’s Beyond Reasonable Doubt, Season 1, (HLH) features the murder of Reyna AngΓ©lica MarroquΓ­n (December 2, 1941 – January 1969) who was a Salvadoran woman killed in the United States in 1969.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/freeredbot
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i try to rationalize my interpretation of the world into how i want it to be. then when i get definite proof that's not how it is, even if beyond a reasonable doubt proof has been there from the beginning, everything falls apart

the person i like has a boyfriend. i should've assumed this months ago, but it was plausible that she didn't, so i assumed she didn't, even though it was almost completely obvious

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πŸ‘€︎ u/bobtheconqueror42
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You finally exposed yourself beyond a reasonable doubt. I always had a feeling you were a shill but thanks for the concrete proof now. Presenting beloved mod Warden Elite. I'm legit shocked at your discord post. (Mods removed at superstonks after it got a lot of traction)

Posting here because mods removed this on Superstonks after 3 hours.

My post was removed. It was the only other source that had several replies from users that spoke out against Warden from his NOW REMOVED post SELLING ON THE WAY DOWN. They cited the removal as 'No Mass-Shared Content'. There was no other post that had this. I guess they don't want any record of it.

I always knew you were a shill u/wardenelite especially after you came back from your ban after advertising your channel for donations and you were posting and then spreading fud on your live stream saying the MOASS would never reach a million, you even scoffed at $5000.And then you leave right when things were popping off with the stock? for "school". Great execuse. Sus. Lots of people felt you were compromised back then but this is finally the proof we needed.

Oh you were already part of some other squeezes in the past? You're in your early 20's in college right now. Please elaborate exactly, which ones? Post proof or ban. What an absolute stupid lie. You're disgusting trying to mislead the community here but too bad they've gotten too smart for your own shill ass. You've exposed yourself. Way to play yourself. Hope it was worth it Wardumb!You do TA that does shit all for this stock. You even split the GME sub prior because of your bullshit. You were never qualified to be a mod or a leader. I'm vindicated by all the comments here.I want to see how you try and talk your way out of this one. This is good bullish news, it just means we're very very close. It just proves the only people we can trust are DFV and RC.

The mods are great but as you can see, they can be compromised if they haven't already. They're more than aware of this if not complicit. Either way, we knew to expect this in the end not to trust figures.Proud of you smart apes, nothing gets past us. Buy and Hold Apes. The floor is $20,000,000 million.

Damning discord post:

https://preview.redd.it/zibsc400mfz61.png?width=2200&format=png&auto=webp&s=856ae714ba5bb500178a5ddb0631a0db0ea38a61

https://preview.redd.it/e9e7sor0mfz61.png?width=1242&format=png&auto=webp&s=260eaeb8925a2bc2cb8a2e3692212c0f86ca228f

Wardenelite: "We gotta keep the bs train going"[Warden exposed, fu

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What should be the appropriate penalty if a politician is proven corrupt beyond all reasonable doubt?
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Mastermind w/ Mike Block "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" - Episode 16 youtube.com/watch?v=Cafnx…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Xer0o
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"One note on the Jury deliberations for Kleiman v Wright. This is different than a criminal trial where the offender must be proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. In civil trials it is only a "preponderance of the evidence" meaning it needs to be 51% more likely to occurred." twitter.com/cryptorebel_S…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Truth__Machine
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"You couldn't even prove the White House staff sane beyond a reasonable doubt." β€” Ed Meese
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ScrambledShow
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I’ll be the first to admit... I am guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of any and all collusions that exist to put an end to stock manipulation. I am $AgainstMarketCorruption

Bitch where my MOASS moneyπŸ’° #CHOKEonTHAT

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πŸ‘€︎ u/changeforadolla
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Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is the phrase that describes this accurately.
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Beyond a Reasonable Doubt finally discussed Avenatti...

But of course, it had nothing to do with the Nike case. Geragos is still bending over backwards to make Avenatti seem like a good lawyer. Even when Ace briefly extended the topic, he did not say a word about Avenatti being a dirtbag convicted felon who currently resides in Club Fed! The mistrial Avenatti got was for an issue unrelated to his Federal conviction, though an uninformed listener would never even know that the federal conviction existed!

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Another Doctor confirms Lab-leak theory, "[Dr. Quay] concludes that it is beyond a reasonable doubt the virus came from a laboratory accident, a so called "laboratory-acquired infection", in Wuhan, China." finance.yahoo.com/news/ph…
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TIL about Blackstone's ratio, the idea that, "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer." Blackstone's principle influenced the nineteenth-century development of "beyond a reasonable doubt" as the burden of proof in criminal law. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bla…
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The Girl In The Barrel - Reyna Marroquin - Is A Tragic True Crime On A Number Of Fronts HBO’s Beyond Reasonable Doubt, Season 1, (HLH) features the murder of Reyna AngΓ©lica MarroquΓ­n (December 2, 1941 – January 1969) who was a Salvadoran woman killed in the United States in 1969.
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Trump’s Guilt Is Far Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. Yet that’s the problem: Senate Republicans are anything but reasonable. newrepublic.com/article/1…
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ELI5: What exactly does "beyond a reasonable doubt mean"?
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To infinity and beyond a reasonable doubt
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