Starting from about 17:20 in the video below, Magee and Williams talk about an unnamed “moral philosopher” who writes a chapter on the ethics of returning a book. Can someone please enlighten me as to who they are talking about?
https://youtu.be/IVY6t-DaeZw
College books cost a stupid amount of cash, and expect quite a bit from broke ass students in the monetary department. Any help would be great
I picked up Ethics and the Limits of Philosophy today. This one, I had some struggle with some time ago -- the prose was just too dry and even-handed (no drama, no tart....). I was aware that the book is a critical stocktaking of moral philosophy today (or, some 30 years ago). Then, today, I discovered on the back cover these words: "In this book Bernard Williams delivers a sustained indictment of moral theory from Kant onward. His goal is nothing less than to reorient ethics toward the individual."
I am wondering what are other titles that do similar critiques of moral philosophy? From the readings I've done so far, I remember Adorno's in The Problems of Moral Philosophy and Rorty's in "Kant vs. Dewey." Are they too numerous to mention? What are essential titles?
Contains Spoilers for Episode 305 (and possibly for the rest of the season, if these theories are correct).
Many of you have probably already gotten here yourselves, and I'm sure I'm not the first person first person to suggest this: >!Caleb is Engerraund Serac's brother, Jean Mi Serac, in a host body that is a copy of the late original Caleb.!< The creators of the show made a number of moves in this direction in the last episode, to set up this twist for the audience. What they appear to be keeping closer to the vest for the time being, however is: >!Bernard isn't just an Arnold lookalike - he is Arnold's control unit, in an Arnold body, brainwashed to believe he is a someone else, who now believes he is a host. !<
This is why Bernard cannot be replaced: he represents the culmination of Delos/Ford/Dolores' efforts to push the human mind over the hump of self-actualization in a host body. By self-actualizing as Bernard, he has protected Arnold's mind from breaking in the way that James Delos' did - now he just needs to remember who he really is.
First, the evidence that Serac put his brother into a host:
- Serac is capable of operating Control Units, as demonstrated by Maeve's time in his virtual construct
- Serac is capable of constructing Host bodies - he built himself a Maeve (her original body was left in cold storage in Westworld)
- When Serac ages into Vincent Cassel - in the scene where we're first introduced to his experiments on the "outliers" - Jean Mi remains the same age/actor he had been in the previous scenes, suggesting he is an ageless host.
- IMDB credits Cassel as "Engerraund Serac" and then two other actors are credited as "Young Serac" and "Child Serac"; however, there are only credits for "Jean Mi" and "Child Jean Mi."
- Given the above, it becomes clear that all of the "outliers" being kept in Serac's facility are a bunch of Jim Deloses - human control units in host copies of themselves - looping and breaking in inferior accommodations. This is circumstantial evidence that bolsters the above observations.
- Lastly, if Serac's brother is now a host, it means Serac has a personal stake in recovering Delos's data: he believes it will help him fix his brother; stop him from crashing like Jim Delos.
Next, the evidence that Jean Mi Serac's control unit is now in a copy of Caleb's body:
- Caleb is not who he seems, as made clear in the last episode
- Repeated imagery keeps hinting that Caleb wasn't just project
Head of security really didn't escort him to the bathroom to ensure that final scene didn't occur? That goes against Stubbs character and seemed like a convenient way to put William in a control position. Lazy writing imo.
I started reading the writings of Bernard Williams a few years ago and have gotten a lot out of him. He addresses a lot of the questions that I've had since a teenager and I find his outlook very persuasive.
I've been wondering lately who are the moral philosophers writing since who have followed the project that Williams laid out? There must be some. I'm not all that knowledgeable about the field so thought I'd put the question to some people who might be better informed.
Have to start 3 of 4 because of bye weeks and injuries. Thoughts?
Two very OBVIOUS things that are still very mysterious to me.
Bernard wears no glasses this season, telling us he is not Bernard but Arnold, probably Arnold swirled with someones else.
William still has no last name. I mean even the hosts have last names. At certain points you can actually sort of see his name on a screen blurred, i think it is when they take his blood? and it is just "William".
Oh and one more the mystery of the same id numbers between caleb and william....and i dont' buy they aren't the same. Did she need to pass william off as caleb to get him into the rehab facility so that when bernard looked him up on the computer it would tell them the location of the sonora facility? BC they are obviously in two different facilities.
Please discuss.
Interested to make sure this is correct. It's a central time that I can work off to figure out other things!
I think the problem of Moral Luck strikes at the foundations of how Kant and Kantians assign praiseworthiness and blameworthiness. This has ramifications in the righteousness of our reactive attitudes which, if rational and useful, have to do with the concept of desert.
I am not necessarily sure it destroys the usefulness of Kant's formulas specifically in whether or not they assign morality to a maxim. Perhaps one can still attempt to have a good will and assign the moral law onto oneself, while not giving oneself so much credit (or blame) in the process? Maybe one ought to try to resist the reactive attitudes?
My understanding of Bernard Williams is that he wishes to move on from Kantianism and Consequentialism then head to what he calls the "Ethical" instead. This focuses on how to make a life worth living as opposed to whether or not an action is wrong in of in itself. I fear this will remove a lot of guidance in one's day to day life by problems of vagueness of what it really means to flourish in your life (This is of course a huge debate in itself).
What are Kantian takes on the problem of Moral Luck? I try to find some papers and articles through Google Scholars but paywalls make me a sad panda :(
Thanks folks!
"It begins where it ends and ends where it began"
It began with William and Dolores falling in love, exploring a suffering world together, bringing hope, going off their loops. It ends with Wiliam and Dolores (Originalores) reconnecting, going through a broken world together, going off the loops that were set for them.
Most of this is from the S03E06 trailer.
Halores looking sad and uncertain, at Hales home.
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Placing something, with resignation, in her ex-husband's hand.
https://preview.redd.it/mu4m5ag6r0t41.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=1162461bb1091c6dc72a14be0bffc2aeee94445c
Hugging ex-hubby while looking at Nathan who is peeking around door frame
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Shot of little Nathan peeking around the corner at Halores and daddy:
blob:https://www.reddit.com/41c8d87d-d982-49eb-a0fc-e6894ff34e2c
Seems like her personality has shifted back to the more child-like version that we saw at the start of the season. She seems to be making a change, giving up something for the good of Hale's family here. My take is she is feeling bad because she has come to the decision to betray Dolores.
Halores meeting with Serac at Delos helopad:
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Does he know that she is Halores and not Hale? Or does he still think she is Hale? Serac has often been waaaay behind the curve, in spite of having a computer superintelligence AI to work with. I think he knows she is Halores, is pretending to meet with Hale, probably about his bid to aquire Delos, in order to capture her. Note the group of armed guards accompanying him.
In the season trailer there is another shot of Serac with his guards followed by a shot of Halores wheeling around and firing a shot:
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Riot bot attacking Serac's guards, must be in basement of Delos HQ. My take is that Halores is using the bots
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