Also, is this an idea that came up in the early church, or did it come up far later?

It has always seemed strange to me hat this doctrine arose given Jesus’s constant attempts to distance himself from Mary in the Gospels and his title as sole mediator. Does anyone here have enough of a knowledge of church history to point out its origin?

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The Beach-Crow's Bird Song

The Beach-Crow Collects
On the Beach He Combs
Flotsam of instruments
Jetsam of wastes
Derelicts of knowledge
But not Lagan He claims
To Him belongs what is not possessed

The Beach-Crow Shares
Origins to Soham
False Creations to Shohei
At Miah and Gordion and Orthos to Roost
Grants Gifts and takes Offerings
Exchanges by open Earth
Never of the Yew-in-the-Mare

Grail and Moth and Knock is he
From Flesh minute by minute unwound
Ten and Rise and Rise his Hour
He sees all that is lost
I Long to call His Name
At what cost
A complete collection is Key

The Hour of Treasured Secrets

The Beachcomber shows up >!late, but in many important endgame content!<, that I dived down the rabbit hole to investigate the lore.

It is from studying >!Inaam, Kapigiginlupir, Garkie, Cryppys!< where the >!Moth 14 "Mare-in-the-Yew"!< lore fragment is unlocked. The text features four characters, which I suspect correspond to >!the four aviform Hours. If so, Inaam, Kapigiginlupir, Garkie all speak of the Beach-crow in the third person, suggesting that Cryppys is the Beach-Crow!<. In the passages of the play we see, they discuss what treasures of knowledge the Beachcomber holds secret, and the resultant lore is highly suggestive that the secret >!is the liaison between the Ring-Yew and the Mare-in-the-Tree!<.

The >!aviform Hours!< are also known to hold parliament in an itinerant location referred to as >!The Roost to exchange news, secrets and rumours!<. Any humans >!who overhear the conversation at the Roost!< are obliterated. The first >!Roost was in Miah!<, which you can discover if you >!dance with the Vagabond in Eagle guise!<. >!Orthos Wood!< was the meeting of a later >!Roost!< that can be >!explored as a vault!<. According to >!The Book of the White Cat!<, the mortal, >!Penelope of Gordion appears to have circumvented obliteration and recovered rumours from the Roost held north of Gordion!< by sending a >!white cat familiar!<. By studying >!The Book of the White Cat!<, the >!Heart 12 "Velvet Charm"!< lore fragment is locked, and as we all know, >!Heart aspect is useful for overcoming curses!<. The above lore is reiterated in >!"'In The

Basically, raised protestant, there are two doctrines I have been taught that the way I see them, or the way I understand them, are nothing like hat people who have talked to me on this sub think they are. Ie. the universal priesthood and universal sainthood. I haven't discussed anyone on the latter, though I assume we have a different enough understanding of the word "saint" for those words to be interpreted in an entirely different direction by a member of the orthodox church then what they are really saying. Basically, with the universal priesthood, what I basically hear is that we are all priests, with one high-priest, christ. We have direct access to the high priest, Christ, and Christ has direct access to God and we have direct access to God through him and by the holy spirit.

Though it may be used differently by some protestant, the way I have always seen this doctrine understood is in prayer and in the distribution of the sacraments of Baptism, Confession and Communion. Basically, we don't need, like our eternal souls depend on it, to go to a specific human person to confess our sins. We must confess them to God, but he also tells us to confess to one another, so even though we must confess to another believer, it is not necessarily the case that we need to confess to the priest/pastor. Now in the bible, we don't see any verses that say a particular person has to distribute communion and baptism, so if someone comes to the faith, any believer can baptize them.

If a priest is not at hand, a group of believers can still take communion when they meet together. We also do allow laymen to teach other laymen in the same way you would allow a friend to teach his friend in something he is less versed in, a mother to her daughter, older to younger, father to son, children, house. The idea of Bishop or priest or pastor is not that of a ruler, but a leader, and they are supposed to serve, not rule. Basically, I do think there is some importance to apostolic succession, but the doctrine of universal priesthood basically says that this kind of connection isn't necessary for Christians to function.

The idea of universal sainthood is slightly different, basically, saints are the church triumphant. They're the people who God has saved, the elect, the chosen generation. you don't have to be a prominent Christian to be a saint, just a real Christian. Saints are those known by God, prominent Christians are known by the world, so you don't have to be a prominent ch

Let me give you a hypothetical scenario: It's 2016. A T‍rump supporter, mad about Hi‍llary C‍lin‍ton's "dep‍lorables" comment, hits her from behind while she's giving a speech with an egg. How do you think reddit would have responded to that? "IT'S A HATE CRIME AGAINST WOMEN!" - "BAN ASSAULT EGGS!" - "I don't get why anybody needs a full dozen eggs in their carton. Surely 6 is enough for a healthy breakfast?"

Regardless of how anyone feels about An‍ning's opinion, that doesn't give them the right to assault him. And what that kid did was assault, no matter how minor the impact of the egg was. After all, An‍ning was attacked with the egg from behind, meaning that in the immediate aftermath he had no way of knowing exactly what he had been struck with. For all he knew, the kid was some lunatic trying to kill him in an odd way. (If anything, it was pretty badass for him to turn around and pop the kid.)

And as for Anning's response, let's go back to my hypothetical scenario with H‍‍RC and imagine she turns around and slaps the egger in response to his offense. Once again, how does reddit respond? "Yaaaas slaaaay queeeen!" And do you think it anybody would see fit to remark at all on the egger getting tackled? Of course not. You hit a po‍litician with anything, even a spitball, and you can expect to be neutralized as a potential threat as quickly as possible. That's how any pol‍itician's staff would respond, not just Ann‍ing's. If anything, the men who apprehended him were rather polite in comparison to what the response of, say, the Se‍cret Service might have been.

There's also the classic slogan that reddit loves of "pu‍nch a N‍azi". Well, if it's okay to punch (or egg) someone for merely saying things that you don't like, then it's certainly okay to punch (actually more like a hard slap) somebody who broke an egg point blank over your head. You don't want to be the victim of violence? Then don't initiate it. Eg‍gboy started it and got exactly what he had coming to him.

Frankly, the whole scenario is just bizarre. Eg‍gboy is obviously in the wrong, and if An‍ning's politics were any different, nobody would think otherwise. People, for some reason, are actually cheering for the annoying little brother who broke his older brother's DS and then cried about it like a bitch when he got punched for his trouble.

Is there any defense of Eg‍‍gboy's behavior than a cultish/mobbish rejection of An‍ning's right to express his opinion?

My Pentecostal/Evangelical father is coming to visit me this weekend, and I don't want to miss the Liturgy.

He's already said that I can go to Church and meet up with him afterwards, but it feels wrong to just leave him hanging while he's in town. We've only briefly discussed Orthodoxy, and he doesn't get it. We were talking the other day about him possibly coming to church with me, and I mentioned something about not being used to all the practices (icons, intercession of saints, etc.) and he--to my surprise--made some comment like "Yeah, that's the thing about the Orthodox Church, it's all about the practices." It had a dismissive tone that I didn't like, and I know for a fact that he doesn't know a thing about Orthodoxy to even make a comment about it.

That leads me to my main question: What are the liturgical specifics of this coming Sunday? My church does the procession at vespers, so we would not be present for that. Is there a lot of prostration before the cross, etc?

I am prepared to explain everything at the average liturgy and I think I could open his eyes a little. However, if we spend much of the service prostrating before the Cross, I think he'll just ossify in any typical evangelical objections about icons and the cross or whatever before we even finish the liturgy.

It's kind of heartbreaking because venerating icons and the cross are so Christian, scriptural, traditional, and spiritually beneficial, but I don't want to overwhelm him.

TL;DR: Should I bring my skeptical evangelical father to the Liturgy/Veneration of the Holy Cross this Sunday in particular?

I just came across New Skete, a monastic community in upstate New York. Apparently they venerate non-Orthodox Saints like Mother Teresa and Francis of Assisi. What's the deal with this community? Link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Skete

Even Jesus corrected it because it is wrong to do so. -

• Luke 11:27-28) "And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."

Christ saw what was happening, that because Mary was chosen by God to have Jesus the people thought she was above everyone else, that they would put her in a spot of veneration and some would worship her. But He rebuked and reproved this by saying to obey the Word of God and not anyone or anything else. Jesus exclaiming "Yea" is not a term of agreement, it's a declaration, a term of announcement.

I'm wondering what exactly the Episcopalian view of Jesus role in redemption is. I've never liked the idea of Jesus paying a debt of my sin for me, and that being the reason he suffered and was crucified. The consequences of my actions should fall on me, not on someone else. If God wants to forgive me, absolved me, cleanse me, or whatever else, then that's how it should be. However, I see no issue with the Christus victus view that we are given eternal life because Jesus conquered death in being resurrected. Is this in line with Episcopalian teaching, or at least not contradictory to it?

Also, what is the Episcopalian view of Mary, in regards to her current role? Do you believe in the immaculate conception, her being assumed into heaven, or her being the mediatrix of all grace? I've heard it's fine for an Episcopalian to pray the rosary the Dominican way, but I'm curious as the the official doctrine.

I may have asked this before but I can’t remember. I’m planning to do a Christmas themed run starting in 769. I’ll start in Lykia which is around where the real Saint Nicholas was from. Then I plan to go landless and move courts with the Cipher Courtier or Rise to Power mod where I will change religion and each region will have a Christmas character (Sinterklaas, Krampus, Jolupuuki, Baba Natale, etc.).

Will one character being sainted as Orthodox reduce my chance to be sainted as a different character that is Catholic? Does that same idea also apply to reformed pagan religions with Ancestor Veneration?

Edit: Same question goes for heresies (Iconoclast to Orthodox) and pagan to major religion (Germanic to Catholic).

I love the Sufi tradition of venerating Sufi saints at their shrines, but what is the Sufi answer to Salafi accusations of shirk and breaking of tawheed? What does the Quran and Sunnah say that encourages us to revere our beloved saints?

I'm trying not to be dogmatic, indeed I had a very powerful spiritual experience when I went to visit the shrine of a Sufi saint in Turkey once, but I would like some pointers on how to properly refute the literalists' and fundamentalists' derision of our spiritual practices.

Wa Allah 'alam

I am sick of seeing society worship people who basically go to foreign lands and make a choice to fight wars that don't do anything to protect the US but are only fought so rich people could steal other countries' resources and to eliminate the terrorists created by us allies like saudi arabia. If we still had the draft I would respect them but when you knowingly choose to take a job that could leave you with ptsd or disabled just so you could fight in foreign wars for some rich assholes leaving millions dead then you get no sympathy or respect from me.

Hello, of many ancient pantheons I've always had a great interest in the Mesopotamian. Growing up, I'd learned quite a bit about Anceint Mesopotamia as I live in Bahrain, the purported location of the famed Dilmun mentioned in the Epic of Gilgamesh!

I've been genuinely curious to learn, are there some out there who pay homage to gods/goddesses such as Ishtar for example? I read one of the moderators' old posts explaining much about Ishtar, and it makes me wonder, would it have been normal back in the day for men with particularly active sexual drives, to be drawn towards this goddess and her temples? If so, frankly that makes me envious and just exacerpates my love for this ancient culture!

Stickers, cards, pins, T-shirt’s- When did wearing the religious symbol for the bOrg become ok? What about all the hatred for the cross, Buddha, religious pictures...?

Hypocrisy much?

I mean in the basegame, I'm aware mods exist that fix it but you can't use those with Ironman.

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