As a follow up, I believe the consensus is that agriculture in the Middle East and the Americas obviously happened independent of each other. Did the farming in Asia occur independently of the farming in the ME? Is their any discussion among historians on the statistical anomaly that both cultures developed farming around the same time independent of each other? Or is it due to a direct consequence of the Ice Age ending and therefore giving opportunity for humans around the globe to farm?
Since we have cities/villages right next to castles, its impossible for society to forget about a time without technology. We still have tales ect from that time.
But what about a time before the bronze age? I googled "when was the stone age discovered?" but couldnt find anything helpfull and my english isnt good enough to think about googling it in another way, so I'm asking here.
Edit:
How I came to the question:
I thought about how we used to live in caves and now we are flying to the moon, followed by the question, if people before our time also thought that?
People near the pyramids will always know about the time of pharaohs, as there are constant reminders of that time and we will also always remember the middle ages because there are castles and stories from that time(about knights, kings ect) but I dont know of any civilisation that has sprung up around some cave with cave-paintings. Thanks to u/wjbc I now know that in europe, the people considered the origin to be adam and eve... but was there any tale about our nomadic, Neanderthal fighting, cave living forefathers, or do we only know about that time because of the archaeologists of our time, and before that there was no knowledge of the time before?
Could it be that the times used to be so bad for pre industrial age humans that they never even asked themselves if there was a time before knowledge?
Does anybody mayble also know about how far back people on the other continents knew?
P.S. while writing this even more people have answered and maybe they have already answered my new question, but I am to lazy to delete this again.
I also credited wjbc because his answer caused me to expand my question.
Crusader Kings 3, a game which was recently announced by Paradox as a sequel to the much loved map painting game Crusader Kings 2, has decided to exclude the phrase "Deus Vult" (look at number 6 on the list) due to its use from basement dwelling retards sometimes known as the Alt Right.
As expected, gaymers aren't very happy with this leading to sweet drama springing up in multiple places:
Paradox Forum thread about the removal
r/games strangely doesn't have a post up about it (clean it up jannie) but here's a comment chain from the announcement post featuring some prime gamer rage
r/KotakuInAction thread for that extra bit of autism
There are also pleanty of threads up on /v/ with people complaining about it but you can go find those yourselves you lazy bastards.
UPDATE -
The original article that talked about this change has just added this statement:
>Update – Henrik Fåhraeus offered this comment: “I feel like this issue has been miscommunicated thus far. We have not specifically considered which terms are used in the game apart from making sense in the historical context. The team will decide how any text fits or does not fit into CK3 in a way that feels appropriate.”
This of course tells us nothing and is the most convoluted case of PR speak that I've seen in a while. So it looks like we'll just have to wait for the game to release to see if Deus Vult makes it in.
So my thoughts where if let's say the ice age didn't really end, basically people would invent irrigation first to encourage the growth of herbs, latter sophisticated forms of fishing would lead to the discover of eatable seaweed, which then comes a primitive form of aquaculture enabling permanent settlement, with the irrigations systems branching off into paddies, leading to crawfish and mollusks ranching on the side, finally sparking off mariculture. People would take advantage of the permafrost to freeze store food. In addition, to making up for the lack of nutrients would eat the meat raw once in thawed instead of cooking it to save the fuel, which would become increasingly more important the more urbanized they became. That just my thoughts what do you guys think?
(Edit: Was getting people confused with the raw meat-eating)
And would they have identified with the ancient Egyptians? Or did they see themselves as Arabs?
Nowadays you wouldn't leave the house without your wallet or your phone. What did people in the middle ages carry with them when they needed to travel short distances, say to the nearest market to buy food?
Growing up, I was taught that agriculture, breadmaking, and beer making started in the Middle East, and "modern civilization" flowed from there. But Chinese history, and various Mesoamerican cultures make the spread of these technologies seem unlikely. So what the hell actually happened? Was Agriculture exported, or did it arise over and over throughout history? Have I been force-fed a Eurocentric history of the world?
(question inspired by this link about Gobekli Tepe
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Thank you to everyone who is not acting like the porn parody version of Typhoid Mary.
I'm wondering what are you guys studying or, what subject/period of the Middle Ages interest you the most.
I am gradually preparing for my Master's degree (I begin in a year from now) and I will be studying the relations and the dynamics between a monastery and a local lord. I am particularly interested in the Church and monasticism in the dynamics of feudal society during the 10th and 13th centuries!
I was on the floor doing the power sit-ups today and the woman on the station next to me leaned over and said "are you in your 50s?" which I thought was weird but I am in my 50s and proud of my accomplishments at OTF so I nodded.
She then thanked me and took the 15pound dumbbells off my weight rack.
I'd be embarrassed except she has no idea what I thought she said and I was using the 25s anyway.
In my defense, the music was loud.
I'm guessing a couple boom mics or omni directional ones hanging from a boom stand?
So Amazon won the rights to create a 5 season TV series on the 2nd Age of Middle Earth. We get to see the rise of Sauron and perhaps the Island of Numenor. I hope I live long enough to see it!
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls025720609/videoplayer/vi2127216409?ref_=hm_hp_i_2
I know it's not a historically accurate game, but it keeps that thematic consistency. I like the way the game looks now.
I also think people severely underestimate just how many stuff can be done with just equipment from this time frame. And just how many super cool eye catching stuff is just not seen by the common viewer.
You want an ancient flavor to your stuff? The 15th century had something called modo antiquo or heroic armor. Armor styled to look like like the roman and Greek heroes of old.
You want badass armor with lots of intricate detail? Artisans like Filippo Negroli made some absurdly beautiful stuff. Look at some suits of parade armor, they're so intricately and beautifully detailed you could spend the rest of your life looking at it. In game they should be expensive as all hell.
We're also missing a lot stuff and style for mixing with existing armors. Ailletes for our crusaders, so many different types of brigandines, round shields and Sutton hoo helmets for our viking friends, segmented greaves and lobster tailed helmets for our hussars and Elizabethan knights.
Not saying that we can't do other stuff. I like other cultures too. But I'd rather see them in mods or separate expansions.
