So I'm trying to discover new groups, but NCT is quite overwhelming, and I don't want to start with the wrong foot.

You can leave a comment with a song that you think I might like, only 1 song per comment. Please don't comment songs that have already been commented. You can recommend several songs in different comments. Then just upvote the songs that you think I should listen to.

I will listen to the 10 most upvoted songs, no matter the subunit. Then, if I enjoyed them I might go check out some others. I won't check out MVs, I'm going only by the music. I don't usually read lyrics, but if you think they are really important just mention it and I will read them.

I mostly like hype fun songs with catchy hooks, but I also like darker-sounding music. I normally don't like overly cute or bright songs. Here are some songs that I love, so you get an idea:

• Blood Sweat & Tears, MIC Drop, Outro: Tear by BTS (pretty much anything by them)
• Can't you see me?, Frost, 9 and three quarters by TXT (I'm obsessed with Frost)
• Drunk-dazed by ENHYPEN
• Back Door by Stray Kids
• Love shot, Trauma by EXO
• Any of MAMAMOO's most popular songs
• (G)I-DLE's LION and Uh-Oh
• TAEMIN's Advice

Update 1: Okay those are a lot of songs! Thanks to everyone who has commented or voted. I will start listening to the top ones now 🧡

Update 2: I put this in a comment, but it probably got lost in the sea of comments, so I'll put it here:

Okay, so I ended up listening to like 30-something songs. I made a playlist and started listening last night, then went to sleep and finished this morning. Here's how it went:

These are the songs that I added to my spotify on first listen:

• The 7th Sense - NCT U (I liked this one a lot)
• Action Figure - WayV (This one is actually fire)
• BOOM - NCT DREAM (This one is also fire 😭)
• Love Talk - WayV (Such a vibe)
• Nectar - Way V
• Lemonade - NCT 127 (I also liked this one a lot lot)
• Superhuman - NCT 127
• Moonwalk - WayV
• Turn back time - WayV (No, this is actually sooo good. I'm really liking WayV)
• Dive into you - NCT DREAM (I don't know why but this one made me smile so much)
• Domino - WayV (That instrumental omg. Loved loved loved this one. THE CHORUS. The whole thing is perfect. I love this so much)
• Miracle - WayV (The rappers went off! I liked this one a lot)
• Love Again - NCT DREAM (Noo, this is just my jam 😭 KEE-KEEP IT ON THE LOW. It keeps going. I love it)
• Dreaming - NCT DREAM (That instrumental. This one f

NCT is one of my all-time favorite boy groups in kpop and I would die if we got a girl group version of NCT from SM with a similar concept

23 girls in different units

Would be a SM favorite

If you could create your own subunits for a one off song each (completely unrelated to lore), how would you arrange the subunits and what would their concept be? Mine would be:

Gowon, Yeojin, Vivi and Hyunjin with a magical concept (vibes like WJSN Secret and Save Me, Save You)

Yves, Jinsoul, Choerry and Hyejoo with a retro concept

Haseul, Kim Lip, Chuu and Heejin with a powerhouse ballad

The tour season is coming up and as we know, it's not unusual to see sub-unit stages during concerts. I think subunits are a great way to ease members into solo work/performances - it gives the members each other's support while on stage and when promoting, but also allows their individual skills to shine more than in a whole group.

Here are some of my dream subunits:

SanHwa - preferably doing a concept like Irene & Seulgi's Monster. I imagine some very feral choreo with great facials. They'd definitely be able to fill the stage by themselves. San's high voice and Seonghwa's lower would contrast great in a song too.

For off-the-charts ferociousness, they could also add Joong and just make a demon line finally an official sub-unit. We're waiting, KQ.

Jongho and Mingi - I want Jongho to have rap parts and Mingi to sing. Now, hear me out, I swear I am not crazy. I genuinely think Jongho has a great potential in rapping (I have proofs) and not having to save energy for crazy vocals would allow his swagger in dancing to make a comeback (like in this video). Now, I'm not completely sure if Mingi would be able to sing vocal parts, considering that's far from his specialty. Maybe if the song was rap-focused, he could just rap too? Alternatively, I can see Joong instead of Mingi in this subunit, since we know he records the guides for songs and can carry a tune well.

Wooyoung and Yunho - I can see them doing a concept with choreo similar to Irene&Seulgi's Naughty. That's one of my favourite choreos in kpop and I'd love to see some other takes on tutting. If it was a year or two ago, I wouldn't be sure if Woo's dancing style fits that concept well enough, but recently there's more sharpness to his moves, so I think he'd do great. And obviously we all know that Yunho is very clarity-focused in his dancing. Not to mention they both have relatively big hands and long fingers, which is always a bonus in tutting. (proof 1, proof 2).

Additionally, if they wanted to add more contrast to their voices, they could also add Yeosang and make it a trio (he has great hands too!).

What are your dream teams? Feel free to to dis

This project will involve them:

1. Rest

2. Take time for themselves

3. Recuperate

4. Sleep

5. Eat whatever they want

It will be released (quoting Kim Jungwoo) ASAP as soon as possible and the fans can stream it from absolutely nowhere.

No but seriously, I am genuinely concerned especially about Haechan after seeing recent stages. The thing about these two is that they will give their 110% in anything they do, and while it is admirable it also likely to burn them out even faster. Haechan seems to be visibly tired and (i hope this is not true) perhaps in pain. I understand him and Mark are a great addition to practically any lineup, but SM did not need to take that so literally.

They both did so much this whole year, and it all attacked them at once now that it is award show/year end show season where they perform 5 songs per event at least, all the while promoting for a comeback and starting a world tour.

Not to mention that Haechan had an injury serious enough to have him sit out from dancing for an extended period of time, which has no guarantee that will not reappear.

So anyways, as a whole nct did so much for this year and I understand that they are members with so much to give musically, on stage, and also variety wise as well. However, I’d rather not see them for a couple months so they can take care of themselves than having them physically burn out sooner than later.

Since TREASURE is a large group with 12 members it’s highly likely we will see subunits in the near future. What subunits would you like to see?

Here are some of the ones I want:

Vocal Unit - (Yedam, Junkyu, Jeongwoo, Asahi)

Dance Unit - (Mashiho, Doyoung, Jihoon, Junghwan)

Rap Unit - (Hyunsuk, Yoshi, Haruto, Jaehyuk)

0104 Unit - (Jaehyuk, Asahi, Haruto, Jeongwoo)

Producer Unit - (Hyunsuk, Yoshi, Asahi, Yedam)

Japan Unit - (Yoshi, Mashiho, Asahi, Haruto)

Lastly, Do you guys think we will ever see the return of the Treasure and Magnum subunits? Even without Yoonbin I think both units would be well balanced and it would be super cool to see those units finally debut.

Here are my observations living in the US and Canada.

• 127: Mark, Johnny, Haechan
• Dream: Jaemin, Renjun
• WayV: Ten, Xiaojun

I'm super curious who are generally the most popular in your area! I'm sure others in North America have very different observations too.

In your opinion, who would you like to see in the group and what concept can you see them doing etc.. For me personally I want to see NingNing (aespa), Joy (Red Velvet), Yeri (Red Velvet) and Taeyeon (SNSD) perform a upbeat/chill song that would be kind of a mix between Hello by Joy and Weekend by Taeyeon.

i hope we can also get an mj & eunwoo subunit!!! it would only make sense, right? 😭 i mean yeah mj just had his solo but it just seems like it would make more sense for there to be three subunits. i just really want an mj & eunwoo mini album too!

basically the title - i've been listening to nct for a while now but decided to stan after 127's recent comeback. i know most of the members and a few inside jokes and stuff, but i'd love to get to know the member's personalities more!

recommendations for variety content, explanation videos, or just funny fan-make crack videos would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance! sincerely, a slightly-confused baby nctzen

The title

is it just random members??

After having now checked out all major music videos of all the 3 NCT subunits, I have reached the point where I am troubling to decide who is my favourite.

I LOVE and enjoy them all, especially how different they are to another, every group got the vocals, rap, dancing, charisma etc, no group is lacking in any aspect and its so fun to see how different each unit sounds and feels like, and I can't wait to see how last years and this years NCT albums will feel like were we have a lot of switching around.

From the 3 fixed subunits, which one is your favourite and why?

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If you were in charge of creating a TWICE SUBUNIT which would you make?

Mine:

Visual Line:

Nayeon

Sana

Mina

Tzuyu

FOREIGN LINE

Sana

Mina

Momo

Tzuyu

Rap Line + Jihyo

Momo

Dahyun

Chaeyoung

Jihyo

Vocal Line - similar to SNSD-TTS

Jihyo

Jeongyeon

Nayeon

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I have a few questions if you do. Thanks

I would like to know why subunits happen, how they started and if a song from a subunit wins an award, does the group or subunit receive it (get up and go take the award on stage)

By why they happen, I mean why the group had some members form a subunit, is it for promotion? Like some songs from a subunit get famous and the group ends up popular?

If a song from a subunit wins an award, does the whole group receive it? Can songs from subunits even win an award?

Group one: Nayeon, Momo, and cheayoung (MOMO AND NAYEON ARE MY BIAS :) )

Group two: Jihyo, Dayhun, and sana

Groups three: Mina, Jeongyeon, and tzuyu

Songs: hello, push and pull, 132

I knew this would be a hot topic the moment the tracklist was revealed but I've not seen a dedicated thread yet. In a few days, FOL will be released and will feature three subunit songs, splitting OT9 into NaMoChaeng, SaHyoDa and JeongMiTzu. I gather that some onces have been clamouring for subunits for a while now and the vast majority of the fandom's attitude towards them is overwhelmingly enthusiastic. Personally, I don't see the appeal.

I simply can't get past the fact that six members will be missing from each subunit song. For me, each member's voice is like a different instrument in an orchestra. Taking instruments out isn't necessarily going to make for a worse experience, but it's usually better with more. I understand people want to hear certain members get more time to shine, but surely this will only be so within that one song; they will be absent for two others. Doesn't that cancel out any benefit? Is hearing them more in that one song worth not hearing them in two? And is hearing more of three members worth hearing nothing of six?

I can sort of see an argument for splitting them into subunits to allow members to pursue those artistic concepts which are better suited to them individually, but at the same time I thought it had already been established that all the members are pretty much able to take on any concept?

On the positive side, I am pleased that it seems JYPE has been listening to fans and taking their suggestions into account. It's also good to see TWICE still continuing to develop, experiment and try new things.

For the record, I am not complaining about the inclusion of subunits in the album and I don't think the subunit songs are going to be bad songs, I just don't see how they will be significantly better than normal just because they have fewer members.

But enough about me. What do you think? Are you looking forward to the subunits? What excites you about them? What are you hoping to see? And what implications might these subunits have for TWICE's future releases?

Joy and Wendy got solo albums to show off their singing but Joy was the lead rapper in the beginning.

Would you be here for a Irene, Yeri and Joy SUBUNIT? Yay or Nay?

Both Cfans and Kfans don't want Lucas anymore; Winwin is the only one who doesn't have a subunit currently; He has solid fanbase as well. Also SM has a history of refilming the MV when there is a member change, so I don't think it's a problem. Also many fans, even casual ones are interested in Hendery's potential and sympathise with him so I think the song will do well in sales.

What do you think?

Why do I feel like if we ever ended up getting a hybe maknaes subunit we would one all be dead and secondly they would have the power to take over the world

Cuz we would have Jungkook ,Huening Kai, Ni-Ki,Dino, Ren, and Jiheon

These they're basically all all-rounders

So, as a baby army and also a baby k-pop fan in general, I’ve been fascinated (for lack of a better word) by subunit songs. The last pop band I kinda paid attention to was One Direction and they didn’t do that. As a result, I’ve been thinking about the subunits we’ve gotten so far and what could happen in the future.

So, I’m curious what pairings you guys would like to see, even if you think it won’t happen. And also what type of song you’d like them to be making.

As a Jin bias with Kookie as my bias wrecker, I’ve been incredibly blessed with the 3 songs they’ve done with each of the rap line. But, I wouldn’t be mad at a song with just the two of them. I’d also love to see Jimin and Tae do like a sultry song because I don’t think I’d survive. I also want to hear a ridiculously fast paced rap with Yoongi and Hobi because it would be beautiful.

What about ya’ll? Any pairings, already done or otherwise, that you’re dying to see? I only put dual pairings here but it can be whatever random group you’d like. Also, keep in mind that I definitely haven’t heard every single song they’ve ever done, so I might be behind on some of these. I just thought this might be a fun little exercise.

I personally do not know what my favorite subunit is. I have just been thinking about what the best subunits are and decides to ask what other people’s favorite subunits are because I don’t wanna miss any.

Also I don’t count the NCT units as “subunits” they’re just different groups/rotational groups

I’ve been thinking that maybe my favorite subunit is EXO-CBX? but it’s hard to remember all the subunits that exist out there is kpop so I wanted to see what other people’s thoughts are

for me personally, the maknae line — Winter & Ningning.

the main slayers of aespa, they would be such an unstoppable force if they were a duo. they’ve got the vocals, the visuals, the dance ability is super solid too… did i forget to mention the Yoo Youngjin curated vocals?

could decide what genre i would i like from them? maybe a SES’s Soul to Soul or BoA’s Kiss My Lips type track from them?

Personally I would love to see a Meanie (bittersweet is on REPEAT), BooSeokSoon, or maknae line (doremi) full album!

I'm looking for the subunit logos but only been able to find low quality, any help would be appreciated!

I don't have any other 4 star Wiz so I don't know who is the best to pair with her

Back when the subunit debut i kept listening to the songs and felt something was missing. It sounded like some parts of the song could have been recorded for the full group. A lot of Seulgi's lines could have been Wendy's and Irene's could have been Yeri's and Joy would have some split between the two.

Monster would have been great as an ot5 song. Diamond and Feel Good just oozes velvet side vibes and Jelly sounds like the songs that fit the newer albums. Only Naughty sounds like it fits being a duo song than a group song especially with the mv and choreo.

I love the subunit to bits and the two worked well together. I always wished they would rerecord the songs as a full group even if it was just a bonus for a new album.

This is the third expansion with Tech support being released (though they were probably made at the same time) and as there are still a lot more PnZ champions and support cards to be released in the future (rise up Blitz and Orianna gangs), I thought it would be a good idea to expand the Tech card pool to not be so connected to Heimerdinger but be a more independent tribe, just like Poros don't need Braum to be consistent. And just like the Fae tag (which is currently absolutely useless) where many units were retroactively added to the pool, Tech could benefit from the same.

So I searched for PnZ cards that could receive the Tech tag in the future. The criteria were simply units that are completely robotic and seemingly capable of some degree of independent action as that is what seems to be the common point among the current Tech cards. The results were the following:

- Assembly Bot

- Plaza Guardian

- Illegal Contraption (Hextech Handler Synergy ftw)

- Scrap Scuttler

- Sump Dredger

- Golden Crushbot

- Defective Swapbot

- I opted for not adding Viktor's Supporters because they're just humans augmented by technology but The Glorious Evolution kinda supports the tag so they are options too, maybe.

They do seem to be all over the place (except for some vague spell and discard synergy) but so are Yordles and Fae right now. I believe that establishing the archetype is the first step towards setting a propper goal for it, especially when the aforementioned champions Blitzcrank and Orianna may benefit from it when released. So, what are your thoughts on this?

Besides the FOL Bside subunits which members subunit do you want to see in the future? For me I really want the sanayeon subunit 🙏😵