Does anyone have any insight into whether nicotine makes symptoms worse?
Ok, I've been noticing a lot of posts about the rough physical symptoms that people experience when going through nicotine withdrawal. Things like chest pains, headaches, gastrointestinal pain, sore throat, fatigue, dizziness, and a myriad of other symptoms.
The truth about these symptoms is this: they are a physical response to the mental processes associated with quitting.
This may sound like pseudoscientific junk, but it is actually scientific fact, which I will explain.
First of all, stopping your consumption of nicotine does not involve processes that would cause all these symptoms. It would make zero sense that lowering your consumption of a poison would increase pain and other troubling symptoms. The opposite is true.
Secondly, everyone's physical withdrawal symptoms are different. If nicotine withdrawal caused acute physical symptoms, they would be felt in nearly the same way as everyone else trying to quit.
And lastly, nicotine leaves your body very quickly. Roughly 97% of it leaves your body within 8 hours. Which means that you would be waking up with these symptoms, every single day, without fail.
So, why do people feel so physically awful when they quit? We've all felt it. These symptoms are real, but they are not purely physical.
Rather, THEY ARE A PHYSICAL RESPONSE TO A PSYCHOLOGICAL STATE. When you deprive yourself of something you are addicted to, you become anxious, irritable, and angry, and your body responds appropriately. These symptoms are PSYCHOSOMATIC. Psychosomatic symptoms are defined as follows:
>(of a physical illness or other condition) caused or aggravated by a mental factor such as internal conflict or stress.
Does this not sound like an exact explanation for why quitting feels so physically terrible? An internal conflict or stress causing physical symptoms: that is EXACTLY what it is.
Now, physical withdrawal of nicotine does exist. But it is a slight aggravation. It is best defined as a small tension, similar to hunger or very mild stress.
What does this mean?
It means that QUITTING VAPING IS A 99% MENTAL PROBLEM.
It means the only way to quit without feeling miserable and anxious and in pain, is not to tell yourself you can't vape, but to ask yourself why you vape in the first place.
You have to realize that nicotine does absolutely nothing for you. You have to not want it. And you can do that by asking yourself why you vape at all. You will realize that the only reason w
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Niggas shouldn’t feel bad about not being able to quit nicotine because the withdrawal really is brutal and niggas who never smoked before don’t understand.
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my New Years resolution in 2022 is to quit vaping/nicotine.. I’m on day 2 and I feel like I’m going crazy. Not a bad crazy, but I’ve been super hyper and in what almost feels like a manic phase. The thing is, I’m not sure if it’s just hypomania from my bipolar disorder as well, or if it’s the lack of nicotine in my system. I did some reading online and nicotine is apparently being researched for treatment of ADHD, as it increases focus.
Point is, has anyone experienced something similar to this during nicotine withdrawals as a person with ADHD? If so, what did you do to control it?
Planning on quitting smoking, I have been smoking for a year. How bad will the withdrawal be for me? I’m scared
I've only been vaping/smoking a few months but I finally decided to quit for my own health and safety, and other than a little annoyed, I am experiencing literally 0 symptoms of nicotine withdrawal.
From my understanding, people always bring up how fucking horrendous it can be and constantly annoying etc. but I'm on my second day and I feel the exact same as if I never did it.
Is there any medical reasons someone can go without experiencing nicotine withdrawals? Or withdrawals in general?
Hi, anybody here who quit caffeine and smoking abruptly and suddenly having panic attacks and heightened anxiety? I quit cold turkey last Feb 2021, and since then I have occasional and triggered panic attacks for example when going outside the house. I wasn't like this before when I was still consuming coffee and still smoking. I have already consulted a psychiatrist and was diagnosed with a panic disorder and was prescribed lexapro. I just want to know if anybody can relate after quitting smoking and caffeine. Thanks!
i have tried quitting nicotine numerous times with no luck. i couldn't even go 3 hours without it. incredibly severe, powerful addiction. i finally managed to kick cigarettes for good this summer, save for one really bad fuckup recently where i got nicotine toxicity. it was such a nightmare and served as a wake up call for me that i need to stop using nicotine altogether. so i am officially three days without vaping or smoking cigarettes, just nicotine patches that help immensely with cravings. my question is, do the nicotine patches prevent withdrawal symptoms too? i am experiencing headaches, depression, anxiety, muscle aches, and fatigue. now that could just be me as those things could all also be attributed to a depressive episode or cold/flu. i dunno. should i expect an even WORSE withdrawal once i stop patches too?? any replies would be super appreciated.
Hey everyone - I quit smoking 6 months ago and, for the last 6 months, was taking a 4mg lozenge every hour (64mg a day total). I experienced no withdrawal at the time.
I realized this wasn't healthy or sustainable and started using a 21mg patch daily 2 weeks ago and am still dealing with dizziness (although it has improved), anxiety, a touch of depression, and insomnia even with the patches.
Has anyone else experienced withdrawal despite using a quitting aid?
Has anyone experienced a worsening of symptoms due to increased vagal tone, especially after nicotine withdrawal ?
I understand that vagus nerve function relies on acetylcholine, and nicotine mimics the function of acetylcholine. After I quit smoking, I had a 3 week flare of my chronic IBS, which also dropped my weight by 20lbs. I had to take an AD to stabilize. I gained 25lbs while on it, and when I quit (due to it no longer working), I lost 45lbs.
I have also read that increased vagal tone keeps you from gaining weight.
Of course I did experiment with reintroducing nicotine for a week and it did nothing.
I'm 2 weeks into quitting. psychosis steadily getting worse. but the few cigarettes I've had during the time have been extremely effective in erasing the symptoms. maybe I'm just thinking it's helping because it cuts down on the stress which in turn cuts down on psychosis. What do you think? For what it's worth, aripiprazole helps a lot but it can't save me from quitting nicotine as it turns out
So I used to vape all day every day, nonstop kind mumbo jumbo. I eventually realized this inhibited my ability to do many things within my life due to how lazy it made me, so I got rid of my vape and went through the first few months with no nicotine, suffering of course. About 3 or so months after I quit my friend offered me a hit of his, so of course my weak ass took a hit and ever since whenever I have an opportunity I usually take a hit. The thing is there are periods of time I don't have a chance to take hits, 3-7 days, so usually I'll go 4-5 days without any amount of nicotine Intake and a day or two full blown fiend mode always smacking it. Can this cause damage to anything in your body, to constantly have this cycle?
Taking a tolerance break because it is very much necessary for me. Already been off both for 4 days, probably gonna aim for roughly 3 weeks. Any tips on easing mood swings, low appetite, insomnia, etc?
Because i was actually vegetative almost for 3 hours today, that is not normal withdrawal for nic. Yes, I do have a very recent history of psychotic stuff of late. 3 bouts in one week, and more recently thc induced psychosis with lingering hallucinations. Essentially my brain is completely fried and sensitive. Going into a dissociative state whenever I'm remotely stressed, minor stress has hallucinations winning over my AP.
Had the thought cause right now my head is so foggy, and its close to that familiar post psychosis brain fog...
Just wondering if anyone has heard of this or if it is reasonable to think that is what happened?
it was way way way easier then going cold Turkey. I literally couldnt remember if I was second day in or third day in the other day. if I had quite smoking or dip I would have deff known exactly what hour I was at or not cus my brain wouldnt be working. I slept fine for the most part, woke up a little sweaty first two nights but not too bad. slept amazing my third night and actually slept in. I had the mints and left them under my tongue while I used them up until last week sometime! good luck everyone. honestly I had more withdrawals from switching to the mints then stopping taking the mints. was at 3/4 to a full can of dip a day.
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I have had success with niacin, i think i take a b-complex but research states 1000mg helps with nicotine.
i have also had success with L-theanine.
Hey guys, so I've been smoking vapes (mostly disposable) for the past 5 years now and am looking to seriously quit. I am probably going to start the moment my nicotine device ends up dying on me but was wondering if getting myself a 0 nicotine disposable vape could help elevate the problems of withdrawals. I tried to go cold turkey about a month ago and got through about a whole day before I needed to get some nicotine. I really felt that at that moment, if I had something to just smoke on, something that resembled smoking but not exactly, like a 0 nicotine vape, it would've helped the next three days of withdrawals go by a bit easier. I just feel like getting through the withdrawals is the main barrier to recovery for myself and if I could just do that successfully, I think I'd be able to grapple with the needs and desires a bit easier. Is this something that is actually helpful or am I selling myself short in any way? Thanks for any tips you guys can provide.
Technically I’m withdrawing from such a small amount but I’m craving having it all the time I haven’t had it in 5 days wtf is wrong w me
My Nicotine withdrawal everyday is stupid . No one knows what it feels like when your not old enough to buy your own nicotine and you have none . It is definitely more healthy to vape than feel angry and torn apart all the time like this . My friend says he will get me a vape , and I am even willing to pay him EXTRA , then when the time comes around he’s like oops if forgot or I’m busy rn . Like tf ? I only get 1 hit everyday in the school bathroom and it’s kind of torture in a way . It’s so hard to fall asleep every night . Ik no one understands what I mean but whatever . I’m actually on a verge of a breakdown . I’ve been yelling at my family . If I could vape whenever I wanted to I wouldn’t feel so desperate for it and I probably wouldn’t even do it as much as I would because it’s so limited and I’m addicted . Stupid , stupid . It’s my friends fault not mine because he’s been trynna piss me off lately . Now ima roguing with my entire family .
Hello there, I have been smoking for about 10 years and decided to stop cold turkey because lowering the amount of cigarette per day to make it easier leads me to a perpetual cycle of getting angry at someone or thing and start smoking one after the other, before I stopped I smoked from 60 to 80 cigs a day, leading up to my question it's been 2 weeks since I stopped, and it wasn't so bad as I thought except for one thing. The Insomnia is killing me I sleep only 3 to 4 hours and stays for more than 24h awake sometimes more Did anyone go through this insomnia and was it this bad for you ? If so for how did symptoms stop. Any answers would be appreciated 🙂
I love quitting nicotine for a certain amount of time and going through withdrawals. I vape a lot and always use liquids with the highest nicotine content in them that are allowed in my country. Usually I order 5-6 10ml bottles of juice that last roughly 1-2 months, so that is a substantial amount of nicotine every day. After I finish all of those I quit cold turkey and I love going through the phase of nicotine withdrawal. This continues for a month or two before I order a new batch of liquids; at which point I no longer crave nicotine. It feels kind of rewarding because you challenge yourself and also challenge the craving of your body to kind of submit to the compound. You basically fight the biochemical reaction of not going through your daily routine of the substance intake with just pure willpower. And somehow, I cannot really explain this, but the cravings themselves feel good to me. The helplessness of not having that usual rush & buzz you get from taking a hit somehow does it for me. Sure, at first its really annoying but you feel really good if you simply ignore it. You regain control of your bodily needs and reastablish balance that was lost before. The first time I wasnt able to vape nicotine after I had started vaping for the first time I really got to know what nicotine withdrawal felt like. To be able to beat that, and even experience it at first knowing you will get over it with your own power is really satisfying. And I cannot lie, seeing other people struggle with their nicotine addiction, especially smokers - who usually intake way lower amounts of the substance and whose cigarettes just taste disgusting in comparison - also really pushes one's ego.
Edit: On a side note, that last line about comparing yourself with others was not meant in a malicious way. Heres the way it presents itself to me: You and some other average joe have to finish a race, you have to run the same distance, but hey has a 5lbs weight attached to him while you have a 50lbs weight attached to yourself. Now obviously you would feel more accomplished beating that other guy. That is kind of how I see it, and please dont go on about how this is a bad comparison, obviously its hyperbolic but I hope you understand what I mean.
I’ve been vaping for the last 3 years and have tried to quit vaping multiple times within that time. It got to the point where I was buying a 4 pack of pods every week. As of New Years I have finally quit for good and I’m glad that I’m finished… but since I’ve also been having AWFUL withdrawals. It’s day 9 and I’m having terrible brain fog and anxiety. I have no desire to go back to vaping or nicotine and I can honestly say that I will never start again. Does anyone else struggle with these withdrawals? How long does it last? I’ve been trying so hard to sleep it off, does it help? Please tell me I’m not the only one. It’s scaring the shit out of me.
Hi, I am 28 years old (male) and smoke a lot of cigarettes. For many years I have also been suffering from derealisation (looking at the world through a lens, always feeling absent etc.).
I tried to quit smoking a few times and every time (after about 10 hours without cigarettes) my withdrawal symptoms were the complete opposite of what is normally expected:
-Increased energy
-Feeling emotions
-Thinking more "outwards"
-Feeling happy and energetic
EDIT-also greatly increased ability to focus
Of course I also crave cigarettes during the withdrawal. The symptoms above only last for exactly three days pretty much, so the duration of the physical withdrawal. I have never heard of anything like this before, are there any explanations for this? I would really like to know, considering the implications for treatment
I've (F22) been dating my boyfriend (27) for a few months and I really like him. recently, he decided to give up smoking, which is cool, but he did it completely "cold turkey", so he is having serious nicotine withdrawals. since he gave it up, he's been kind of a jerk and has an extremely short temper. He also is having some problems with family. I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because I know it probably sucks, but on Monday we went to dinner and he did a few things that really pissed me off and I honestly don't know what to do about it, should I just talk to him or leave? I haven't said anything to him because, again, nicotine withdrawals, but Monday sucked. he recently went on a trip to go visit his family across country and came back Saturday. Well at dinner, Once we were seated he immediately pulled out his phone. I asked him about his trip, he gave me a short "same as usual. nothing worth talking about" I asked him about his mom, I got a "same as always." all of this said while he's still on his phone. I asked him about work, he said "nothing major happened" still on his phone. I asked him if he celebrates Christmas, Hanukkah, etc. and he goes "the holidays are stupid. I don't celebrate anything.", his parents divorced when he was 4 around this time so I think that might be why, but still, it was alittle aggressive. Anyway, after that he puts his phone down and said something to me that I didn't hear, I asked him to repeat himself, he did a big sigh, and basically yells what he asked. I was so surprised I cant even tell you what he said. Once our food came, he made a comment about how he needs to lose weight. I said he didn't need to lose weight but I'd support him (he's not a big guy at all) and he goes pretty loudly "I think we both could lose some weight". I'm not a big girl, I am a little over weight but not by much. We've talked about meal prepping and going on hikes, so the comment itself didn't bother me. What really bothered me was he said it loudly in a busy public place. Once we got back to his apartment, he was super loving and sweet. it totally through me off.
I'm just not sure what to do. its been like this for about 3 weeks and I'm over the temper and sudden mood changes. its hard because during "my time of the month", I know I'm extremely short tempered, my mood changes rapidly, and I'm always grumpy or crying. he puts up with this very very well, so part of me thinks "if he can put up with that I should be ab
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So I ran out of cigs yesterday and didn't smoke last night or this morning. Up until about 20 minutes ago at 6pm.
Idk why but the withdrawal makes me feel hyper alert, almost manic. It does give me brain fog but the fog makes me more talkative and less anxious throughout the day. It also makes me more irritable which in turn makes me less of a pushover which I normally am. Obviously these are temporary side effects, but I'm just wondering why it is. If anyone has a guess.
ok so i have been vaping for 6 months and was traveling out of town for thanksgiving and decided not to bring my vape and i feel zero withdrawals or cravings whatsoever…
Hi all,
I'm on my second week of abstinence from nicotine and it's more intense than I thought it would be. Getting through a single day seems a big battle.
I've got another 2 and a half months of battling the urges to smoke. This is going to be a long, painful ride... 😢
I'm writing this post not to vent, but more to say how I admire anyone who has overcome serious addiction to more addictive substances such as OPIATES. I mean, even nicotine is tough to overcome, I'm finding the urges strong, so I have huge respect to anyone who has overcome opiate addiction.
Is there anyone here who has successfully overcome an opiate addiction? 🤷♂️🤷♀️ It would be great to hear if so.
Now I have to find a way to be able to sleep (weed doesn't help there, just takes the edge off the physical aspects a bit). I'm surprised at how hard day 0 is compared to my two previous attempts. I think it was the damn Newports. Wish me luck I'm literally going insane.
Update: 5 days free of Nicotine. Physical madness has subsided completely. The after-effects it had on my Acetylcholine and Serotonin levels is immeasurable right now though. It feels as if ice is being dripped on to your brain and you sleep for 12+ hours. I usually just take my Aderrall as needed but I'm taking my full daily dose plus 1/2-1 extra to fulfill that dopamine need. (42.5mg/day max). Copious amounts of CBD/Delta 8 (Not in a legal state) have helped TREMENDOUSLY. CBD especially. No nicotine products at all. Wintergreen/Mint/etc gum + a CBD/Delta 8 disposable has helped needed that "methol throat hit" and to help with my oral fixation until my neurotransmitters stabilize and then it's goodbye to that too. Trying to get my body as health as it can be and doing what I can to take control of as much of my life as I can.
I'm it was just an individual oriented thing, but damn. Shit had me fucked up like I've never been before. I'm fine now after waking up. There's just an urge deep in me to hug people, talk to people and have a wide smile across my face, but last night was a very different story.
I used to drink non-stop. Even got to the point where I would gag while drinking and throw up at work. Day after day for about a year and a half. The biggest pause I had was 2 days and alcoholism runs in the family. I've recently quit alcohol. Recently as in 3 days ago when I found DXM. I have to split up time between work, my boyfriend and my video game hobby. Which can lead to me only getting enough sleep for work and him time to time. But now DXM had been introduced.
This doesn't ruin it for me, but I'm gonna have to work on my sleep habits, the alcohol withdrawals will go away and I'm not picking up another bottle of alcohol again. But damn. I work afternoons to evening so I sleep at like 4-5am so I'll have enough time for my bf (LDR), but I had taken DXM at 12 am that day and it's gives me insane amounts of energy or it suppress need for sleep idk. Long story short, I stayed up damn near all night thinking about my angel in a euphoric daze. Did my good morning message to my bf, Went to work, did the daily grind, clocked out, came home and video called my bf. "It's my day off tomorrow. Time to have fun
I had downed 500 mg of DXM Poli on an empty stomach (not to big on eating directly after work) about 45 minutes into my video call it starts to kick in. But I hang in for a little while longer and eventually we hang up and do our separate things. He watches his LGBT series, I play video games. DXM and gaming is phenomenal!!! It gives me the same head feeling and head zone I got when I smoked weed and played video games, while offering me the same body feel of alcohol.
This time it was Battlefront 2 (co-op mode). I was having a good time crushing the resistance as mama Phasma, then I took my a nice, deep and long hit of my vape exactly as I hit the peak of my trip... The energy drinks wear off... My body is going through withdrawal... I miss my bf... my water bottle is empty... I get nauseated... And then. I stand up.
My body felt like it got hit by a freight train. I clumsily walk out of my room with my heart beating like a war drum. I stumble in the bathroom thinking I'm about to throw up my soul. Then I hear a voice. It's my friend who's crashing at my place. He asks m
... keep reading on reddit ➡Hi, I am 28 years old (male) and smoke a lot of cigarettes. For many years I have also been suffering from derealisation (looking at the world through a lens, always feeling absent etc.).
I tried to quit smoking a few times and every time (after about 10 hours without cigarettes) my withdrawal symptoms were the complete opposite of what is normally expected:
-Increased energy
-Feeling emotions
-Thinking more "outwards"
-Feeling happy and energetic
EDIT-also greatly increased ability to focus
Of course I also crave cigarettes during the withdrawal. The symptoms above only last for exactly three days pretty much, so the duration of the physical withdrawal. I have never heard of anything like this before, are there any neurological explanations for this?
Hello there, I have been smoking for about 10 years and decided to stop cold turkey because lowering the amount of cigarette per day to make it easier leads me to a perpetual cycle of getting angry at someone or thing and start smoking one after the other, before I stopped I smoked from 60 to 80 cigs a day, leading up to my question it's been 2 weeks since I stopped, and it wasn't so bad as I thought except for one thing. The Insomnia is killing me I sleep only 3 to 4 hours and stays for more than 24h awake sometimes more Did anyone go through this insomnia and was it this bad for you ? If so for how did symptoms stop. Any answers would be appreciated 🙂
Hi all 💃
I'm on my second week of abstinence from nicotine and it's more intense than I thought it would be. Getting through a single day seems a big battle.
I've got another 2 and a half months of battling the urges to smoke. This is going to be a long, painful ride... 😢
I'm writing this post not to vent, but more to say how I admire anyone who has overcome serious addiction to more addictive substances such as OPIATES. I mean, even nicotine is tough to overcome, I'm finding the urges strong, so I have huge respect to anyone who has overcome opiate addiction.
Is there anyone here who has successfully overcome an opiate addiction? 🤷♂️🤷♀️ It would be great to hear if so.
