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In Volume 5 we learn that apparently while the main charactes were busy marching from Vale to Mistral all the Huntsmen in the Kingdom of Mistral were killed by Hazel and Tyrian.
Yes, apparently THE ENTIRE HUNTSMEN POPULATION of a Kingdom is been exterminated by TWO PEPOLE!
This often overlooked fact completely DESTROY the worldbuilding and the stakes of the show.
Becasue if we take this claim for true either:
A) the Huntsmen in Mistral were so few or so weak that two of Salem minions can defeat them all in a few months at best (this makes you wonder how Salem hasn't already won if her enemies are so incompetent).
Or
B) Tyrian and Hazel are so powerful that they can defeat all the Huntsmen in a Kingdom in just few months, if we consider the average Professional Huntsman/Huntresses as powerful as Qrow or Winter, this makes Tyrian and Hazel ridicolusy powerful (and makes you wonder how Salem hasn't already won if her minions are so overpower compared to everyone else).
I can't find the proper words to describe how ridicolus this situation is.
This shows how little trought the writers have put in the worldbuilding of RWBY.
We have no idea how many Huntsmen exist or how strong the average Huntsmen is.
This mean we have no idea how many pepole Tyrian and Hazel had to defeat to wipe out all the Huntsmen in the entire Kingdom of Mistral.
And so the powerscaling for Tyrian and Hazel becomes impossibile and at best makes all the common Huntsmen jobbers while at worst makes Tyrian and Hazel two apocalyptic threats who can causualy conquer ENTIRE KINGDOMS on their own.
No matter what the answer is, either way the stakes of the shows and the worldbuilding are destroyed.
I really liked Mistral, seemed like an OG guy in how he was written. But I kinda miss some elements of his character. At the end of S4 got introduced as some super powerful mysterious guy. But i feel that in fact he was just like all the other clans weβve seen in earlier version, and desperate to grow? So thatβs why he gave all his men and resources to aide Genny?
And also his death makes sense but it doesnβt. He βflippedβ over but so did Oβ Munciello. And as seen through the episodeβs mistral actually seemed loyal at heart. Not a sneaky rat since the start.. so i donβt understand Ciroβs decision here.
Wow, the characters introduced during this arc were so developed! I'm really impressed how each one of them made an impact on Team RWBY that each one of the girls remembers and are still affected by!
It was before the last episode I think?
Context: Ironwood decides to pull his army from Mistral in Volume 4 and some people consider that to be bad or wrong and that if he had his army in Mistral, that would somehow make everything great.
Letβs take a step back and analyze why this is a stupid idea.
For one, Ironwoodβs major character flaw is that he thinks any problem can be solved by throwing an army at it. Thatβs practically the very thing people bring up when discussing his role in Volume 2. With how the show presents the "no victory in strength" message, it almost feels contradictory if they decided to say "except in this one particular moment where Ironwood's army would have made everything go great!"
It would have most likely resulted in his army failing, backfiring, or the villains exploiting it like they do every time Ironwood gets involved.
Second, consider that Atlas is in hot water over the Fall of Beacon. Having an army in Mistral, even in the Atlas-favoring Argus, would not do them any favors, especially since tensions between Atlas and the other Kingdoms have been alluded to time and time again throughout the show and even novels.
Thirdly, Ironwood brings up the major reason is to focus on Amity and prep the Kingdoms for mass panic once he reveals Salem's existence. His reason to Jacques that Atlas needs to be safe is metaphorically true (though things would have went a lot smoother if he had just told the Council what was up).
Lastly, and this is something everyone likes to bring up: Ironwood bringing his armies where ever he goes is what caused tensions between Atlas and the Kingdoms in the first place, as well as being a massive red flag for his character arc (people like to bring up how him bringing an army to Beacon was foreshadowing to his turn to evil). Much like the first point, it would seem very out of place for this one time to suddenly be a good thing.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't really think him leaving his army in Mistral would have solved anything. Knowing his character arc and the overall theme the show likes to demonstrate with him, it would have just made things worse.
Maybe I am wrong, but considering how Genny talked about " O'Mistral"'s reputation, it gave me the impression that he was some kind of a " high level boss: like Genny or Pietro.
However, the one from season 5 looks like some kind of an individual with some influence, but quite far from being a boss like Pietro.
I have the opinion that what we finally had, was not what they thought at first and that the character was heavily redesigned.
Atlas gets a little too ambitious and decides to annex the other 3 Kingdoms.
Win by capitulation/surrender of the opposing faction.
No nukes, biological or chemical weaponry.
All Grimm activity will be put on hold until the war ends, and the Huntsmen will side with their affiliated Kingdoms.
All kingdoms are in their V7 versions.
Can the other 3 Kingdoms resist the might of Atlas?
Who wins in a battle royale of Blade Wolf vs Mistral vs Monsoon vs Sundowner vs Jetstream Sam vs Khamsin?
The battle takes place in an empty city, everyone is in character
R1: They only have access to their weapons, so no tripods/tanks/helicopters/etc.
R2: They do have access to their weapons, i.e. Mistral can use the tripods, Monsoon can use the various things he hurls at Raiden, Sundowner has two helicopters to back him up
Bonus Round : All 6 of them vs Raiden and Senator Armstrong
Context: Ironwood decides to pull his army from Mistral in Volume 4 and some people consider that to be bad or wrong and that if he had his army in Mistral, that would somehow make everything great.
Letβs take a step back and analyze why this is a stupid idea.
For one, Ironwoodβs major character flaw is that he thinks any problem can be solved by throwing an army at it. Thatβs practically the very thing people bring up when discussing his role in Volume 2. With how the show presents the "no victory in strength" message, it almost feels contradictory if they decided to say "except in this one particular moment where Ironwood's army would have made everything go great!"
It would have most likely resulted in his army failing, backfiring, or the villains exploiting it like they do every time Ironwood gets involved.
Second, consider that Atlas is in hot water over the Fall of Beacon. Having an army in Mistral, even in the Atlas-favoring Argus, would not do them any favors, especially since tensions between Atlas and the other Kingdoms have been alluded to time and time again throughout the show and even novels.
Thirdly, Ironwood brings up the major reason is to focus on Amity and prep the Kingdoms for mass panic once he reveals Salem's existence. His reason to Jacques that Atlas needs to be safe is metaphorically true (though things would have went a lot smoother if he had just told the Council what was up).
Lastly, and this is something everyone likes to bring up: Ironwood bringing his armies where ever he goes is what caused tensions between Atlas and the Kingdoms in the first place, as well as being a massive red flag for his character arc (people like to bring up how him bringing an army to Beacon was foreshadowing to his turn to evil). Much like the first point, it would seem very out of place for this one time to suddenly be a good thing.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't really think him leaving his army in Mistral would have solved anything. Knowing his character arc and the overall theme the show likes to demonstrate with him, it would have just made things worse.
