Jedi Council Puns

Bonus question: Why wasn't Anakin allowed to be a Jedi Master in the first place? Were there certain requirements or tests he hadn't finished yet?

In Star Wars Episode III, once the Jedi Council find out from Anakin that Chancellor Palpatine is a Sith Lord, they move to arrest him. My question is, was the Council acting within their authority? I'm assuming they'd have the power to arrest people, since they essentially act as law enforcement, but can they unilaterally arrest someone as powerful as the Chancellor, especially with no evidence besides one witness testimony? Were Palpatine to voluntarily go on trial, would the charges have actually stuck?

I'm re-watching the Clone Wars and I just finished that storyline.

The Jedi council for the most part was blind to who really bombed the temple. Shocked that someone as old and wise as Yoda was blind to this. The apology from Mace was just a BS cop out. That whole situation which led to Ashoka leaving was definitely huge in Anakin distrusting the council and eventually turning to the dark side. This also further justifies why Anakin was distrusting the council in episode 3.

Hello fellow nerds, I was recently re-watching the Rogue Jedi arc as I make my way through TCW for the fifth time. When it came time to see Ahsoka get yeeted from the Order, I began wondering, as I'm sure many have, who voted to expel Ahsoka? Here's my conclusions based on available and implied evidence in the show.

Let's start with the important information:

The Jedi High Council as of Season 5, Episode 20

• Yoda (confirmed)
• Mace Windu (confirmed)
• Ki-Adi Mundi (confirmed)
• Saesee Tiin (confirmed)
• Eeth Koth (confirmed)
• Shaak Ti (confirmed)
• Obi-Wan Kenobi (confirmed)
• Plo Koon (confirmed)
• Kit Fisto (confirmed)
• Stass Allie (likely)
• Depa Billaba (likely)
• Oppo Rancisis (likely)

When Admiral Tarkin comes to deliver the Republic's demands for military trial to the Jedi, we see ten members of the Council in attendance. I can only make out nine of them, the nine confirmed members, though I believe the tenth is Stass Allie.

Assuming the remaining two members of the Jedi High Council (in this case, Depa Billaba and Oppo Rancisis) were unable to be present for voting (this is likely, given that the Council summons Anakin and Ahsoka to the trial chamber directly after this meeting to hear the verdict), there are ten possible votes we must calculate, and they must reach a majority to have expelled Ahsoka.

To start, we can begin eliminating some scenarios right off the bat. When the verdict is handed down, Yoda acknowledges that "reached a decision, we have, but not in total agreement, are we". Evidently, the vote to expel Ahsoka was not unanimous, and likely contentious.

Now let's evaluate the likely positions of each council member: (If you would prefer to skip to the general conclusion, scroll to the bottom)

Yoda

Yoda is in my opinion, the most difficult to assign to a side. He appears conflicted, and his only comment on expelling Ahsoka is "In our decision, may the Force guide us.". Because of this, I believe Yoda abstained from the Council's vote.

Mace Windu

Mace Windu's actions and words implied that while he did not necessarily believe in Ahsoka's guilt, he felt obligated to obey the Senate, saying "If the Council does as you [Obi-Wan] suggests, it could be seen as opposition to the Senate. I'm afraid we have little choice.". This strongly implies Windu voted for expelling Ahsoka.

Ki-Adi Mundi

Ki-Adi Mundi is portrayed as oppositional to Ahsoka from the very beginning, stating that "Yet there is indeed eviden

In the Clone Wars series, not sure which episode, the Jedi Council finds out that Dooku had a direct hand in the creation of the Clone Army, this on top of the fact a rogue Jedi gone behind the Orders back to commission the Kaminos.

Why were they so blasé about the fact that their entire army was supplied to them by their mortal enemy? I get that if they revealed that knowledge to the public it would collapse support for the war, but they seemed just fine with the knowledge that the head of the Seperatists had a hand in the creation of the army they relied on.

Shouldn’t they have been a bit suspicious and concerned that Dooku had sabotaged the army? That they’d die en masse if he activated a kill switch, or were secretly loyal to the Seperatists? At the very least investigate the situation further?

Force-sensitivity seems to be an hereditary trait. There are many jedi/siths who have known Jedi/sith ancestors. And it also seems to be a recessive gene, since not everyone have force-using parents. The “muggle-borns” and “squibs” both exist so to speak, borrowing the HP terms.

Now with that in mind, the Jedi council’s stance against personal attachment, pursuing love interests or idle dalliances seem to be self-destructive in the long run. Since living by the code, it’s less likely for a Jedi to have children than other average citizens statistically. Then the force-sensitive gene percentage among the whole population would go continuously down to the point of eventually relying wholly on the discovery of the “muggle-borns” to fill the ranks. And that would eventually make the force-sensitivity as a gene extinct in the long long run if siths didn’t exist. But the Jedi obviously weren’t happy to take in anyone with known sith ties or ancestry. Again making that point obsolete.

How could the Jedi not see this though? The one explanation I can think of is that the force itself would intervene if the force-sensitivity is in danger of going extinct or when light-dark scale goes too out of balance.

Then come the foundry fp, boy was I disappointed in Revan. Targeting the red sith gene wouldn’t eliminate the dark side of the force at all if the dark side is a natural part of the force. As long as force users exist, there will always be people falling to the dark side of the force. Because the power doesn’t choose the worthy only the lucky. He might be more successful by targeting the force-sensitivity gene itself. And just kill them all Jedi and sith alike himself included and free the people of this universe from the tyranny of the force once and for all.

Edit & reply:

I know that Jedi can have kids. But with the code they just tend to have less than normal people ON AVERAGE.

So I thought that would eventually outbreed the force gene in the long run.

But I did some math and realise it’s not that easy for a recessive gene to disappear entirely even though selected against in every generation. Also the population itself tend to grow larger instead of staying the same.

But my argument of relying on “muggleborns” is still valid.

And people joke of one night stand and so on, so what’s happens to having a loving and supporting family that the potential force kids don’t fall so easily to the dark side???

Revan’s reasoning is completely flawed. S

So it has been a month since my first playthrough of Kotor II and following the grey moral options, I got a few questions for the dedicated players and admirers of the Kotor franchise regarding the Jedi exile.

My first question is about the reason that the Exile decided to leave Revan's cult after the Mandalorian War, I don't know if it depends on how we go through the flashbacks in the tomb within the cave on Korriban or not but when Kreia yeeted the Masters and kneel down checking on me, she said that she understood why I left: because I was scared ( feared? ). I have no idea what does that means and my brain's RAM did not contain all the lectures that Kreia told me about myself, only that I am some sort of a wound in the Force... and it affects those who follow and accompany me.

The second question is about the Masters' resolve toward this problem of the exile, they stabbed Revan in the back worse than any Sith could do, not even Vader would dare to do so to his damn son, so why the heck didn't they gather and discuss on Dantooine without the Exile's acknowledgement, and then linch the Exile somewhere like Kashyyk or sthg?

I'm very new to the SW fandom so if I made any claims that sounded stupid, I hope you can forgive me and maybe clarify them up for me. Have a good day :D

Okay, so I just watched the episode when Ahsoka left the order. Now, as I was looking up reviews of the episode, I see a lot of people pretty much saying “f the Jedi”, and they insist that the council was “stupid” for what they did. I won’t act like I have zero idea what they’re talking about, but I think it is a little over the top. From an impartial point of view, does all presented evidence not point to Ahsoka? Like, she even escaped from her cell and went on the run. Yes someone was setting her up, but unfortunately for her, there was no way to prove that, and there probably wouldn’t have been if Ventress didn’t happen to be with her when she was talking to Barris. However, I do understand the point that the Jedi should have tried a bit more to keep it as an internal affair. Other than that tho, for the route that they took, I don’t see how they were “wrong”. I’d like to hear y’all respectful responses.

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