I say this as a native English speaker who speaks practically no Spanish. Reasons:
- It's phonetically consistent and therefore way easier to learn than English. The only big new barrier would be word genders, which a lot of other languages already have
- It retains Latin script, which makes it the easiest "big" language to switch to from English. Also for people who don't already know Latin's alphabetic script, it retains that easiness as a second writing system vs a symbolic script like Mandarin
- Already has 500 million native speakers
- We've already got a bunch of multi-lingual signage support for it the US
I think about what the topic describes. I have some concepts for my video game and I need a romance lingua franca for it.
I was thinking about Esperanto (or Ido), but still they cover Germanic and Slavic languages, which is a little extra for my purpose.
So here we have it left: InterlinguE (or Occidental), InterlinguA and Lingua Franca Nova (or Elefen or LFN) (they are the biggest, I guess)
But also you can check out a ton of another ones in this wiki article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Romance_language
So the question is which of them is more successful in terms of learning simplicity and comprehensibility for romance language speakers (both spoken and written)?
Also, I don't really want to consider a conlang with about a dozen speakers (sorry, if your feelings were hurt). Popularity at the level of toki pona, lojban, anglish and Interlingue is enough.
P.S. I'm sorry for any possible mistakes. English isn't my native language.
UPD: After reading all your comments and doing additional research I realized that the first selection of languages was not quite suitable for the goal I described. Also I should mention that conlang must be still alive. (That's why Latino sine Flexione doesn't fit)
I need Romance "interslavic". After all I mentioned above, I guess I have to choose between them:
Romance Neolatino (https://neolatino.eu/index.html)
Latino Interromanico (https://interromanico.auxlang.eu/)
And LFN
Comparing Neolatino and Interromanico I would prefer the first one since it is slightly more popular, and construction on the basis of modern romanic languages, while Interrogation includes more latin. (Which I personally don't like)
LFN is slightly more developed than Neolatino (it's quite a young project). LFN is definitely more suitable than Interlingua and Interlingue, because it's not include any non-Romance languages. But I can't objectively compare LFN with Neolatino.
So what do you think? It would be cool if somebody who speaks any Romance language tell his/her opinion about comprehensibility and concept of those two.
UPD2: The question is settled.
Final conclusion is Neolatino. Since Interromanico feels a little bit archaic (maybe can be used as old version of Romance Auxlang in my situation)
LFN is good but not exactly what I needed.
If you are looking Romance interslavic, then it's Neolatino. If you need a simple language with Romance based vocabulary, it's LFN.
I thank everybody who have took part in this discussion, e
... keep reading on reddit ➡Even though Shanghai and the CCP as a whole are seemingly backing away from English language education, it seems that Mandarin as a second language has been declining rapidly in the past decade. Does anyone believe that Mandarin will make a rebound or are we all getting off the Mandarin-as-the-Future-Language train like we did with Japanese in the early 1990s?
https://kaohongshu.blog/2020/11/19/learning-chinese-becoming-less-popular/
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/exams-08122021132625.html
You can see the original r/SciFiConcepts thread here
In a non-FTL universe, time dilation brings out a whole host of problems for society. It's not just that some colonies will arrive in a system with technology centuries out of date. Their values will be entirely different as will the language they speak.
Forcing technology and culture to be stagnant so that colonists a hundred light years away won't feel left out is a bit too much. However, enforcing a set of common languages would be a far less difficult and detrimental thing to enforce. The culture and technology of today is vastly different to that of a few decades ago, but language has mostly remained the same.
Sci-fi often deals with a language that is the 'galactic standard'. I personally feel that forcing everyone to speak the same langauge is far more difficult than making everyone continue to speak the same language that they are already speaking.
One possible scenario would be something like the Académie Française. The Académie is France's official authority on the usages, vocabulary, and grammar of the French language. However, in this setting the Académie Galactique is in charge of every language from a single point in time.
They're not a strictly conservative society, after all, the Académie Française creates new words all the time to protect the French language from Anglicisms. That would be the role of the Académie Galactique. Conserving the languages so that all of humanity is fluent in at least one of the original languages and making sure any new words are translated into the original languages. This means new technologies can be said and understood by colonists in distant parts of the galaxy.
Selecting the year that language is held in stasis would be difficult. Would it be when the first generation ship leaves Earth? When the first one arrives? When a million people are living beyond the solar system? Or a billion? The date is entirely arbritrary but I like to think of the 25th century as the best time to start the Académie Galactique.
I think with Brain Machine Interfaces and genetic engineering humans would be more than smart enough to be fluent in two languages with no issues at all. So being forced to be fluent in the equivalent of latin wouldn't be too much of a hardship. It also means the human race as a whole stays more interconnected than it otherwise
... keep reading on reddit ➡Ando na guerra entre centro de saúde e hospital.
Cada vez que se liga ao centro de saúde. O médico de família "não está". Já disseram para tentar ligar em 2022. Tal é o desplante desta gente.
Decidi então vir ao hospital por causa de algo que suspeito ser faringite bacteriana (antibióticos portanto) e por recusa de marcação de consulta no centro de saúde. Eis que está apenas um médico a atender nas urgências. Há pessoas aqui desde de manhã que ainda não foram atendidas. Esta sala de espera está o desespero e acumula mais do que os lugares disponíveis na mesma.
É este o bom estado que está o SNS e que os senhores políticos e televisões vendem? Claro que não. Para eles está tudo bem. Não fosse a ADSE pagar as consultas no privado desses senhores enquanto quem paga as mordomias anda aí a morrer num canto..
I’m an American who studied Russian in college and I am planning a trip to Ukraine for the first time next year and I want to make sure I’m being respectful while I’m there.
I’m a native English speaker and also speak Russian as a second language. Linguistically, would it be rude to speak Russian off that bat with strangers? And would I be ignorant to assume Ukrainians understand Russian better than they would English?
So all the other latin based languages know what it's like to use a proper language with noun declension/ so the germans know they can't win even the language wars/ so the french learn it's not all about them/ si de Englezi nu mai zic. Also since it's latin based with a slight slavic twist, it should easily accommodate both major language groups, da? The germanic speaking tribes can learn a new language from scratch since they are not lazy, it is well known. Finland, I am sorry, I don't know where to put you.
Let us vote
I know most people here want English, but I want to make the poll only with my favourite options. I mostly see Latin (my preferred choice) or Esperanto as a way to culturally distance Europe feom the US.
I have heard many times that Greek was the lingua francs of the Roman Empire and it was not Latin that the normal person would have spoken (hence the New Testament being written in Greek rather than Latin despite being in the Roman Empire). Yet today there is only one Greek language (at least that I know of), Greek. Yet there are many Latin descended languages today (Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian). Those Latin languages are also spread out in multiple parts of what was the Roman Empire while Greek is limited to just, well, Greece. So how did it end up that the lingua Franca that was more commonly spoken end up having only one small descendent while the less commonly spoken language ended up having many descendent languages spoken by so many people in so many places in the modern world?
https://preview.redd.it/3gl3efrudkb81.png?width=965&format=png&auto=webp&s=deb464cb72012317c9e2bcc25997d84f4d412013
I've done this shit 3 times now and it still aint popping.
It's a fact that english is the common language for travel, business and internet, but when did it start? And which country was the responsible for making this happening?
Basically is it accurate to say that english didn’t start becoming an international language until the 20th century? Was the WW1 treaty of Versailles being written in English and French instead of just French a major turning point? When exactly did English become the go-to bridge language that everyone else needed to know?
Okay so I'm replaying this mission so I can get all the tasks, and the second time this has happened. I don't recall if this has happened on my PS4 or not, but for some reason, as you can see the prisoner just drops at the door instead of further in the house.
https://preview.redd.it/9z07vsv338481.jpg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0c59f6a2de147fffc797b97a84296126463a7dd
Édit : last one is supposed to be « I am not a native English speaker »
In a non-FTL universe, time dilation brings out a whole host of problems for society. It's not just that some colonies will arrive in a system with technology centuries out of date. Their values will be entirely different as will the language they speak.
Forcing technology and culture to be stagnant so that colonists a hundred light years away won't feel left out is a bit too much. However, enforcing a set of common languages would be a far less difficult and detrimental thing to enforce. The culture and technology of today is vastly different to that of a few decades ago, but language has mostly remained the same.
Sci-fi often deals with a language that is the 'galactic standard'. I personally feel that forcing everyone to speak the same langauge is far more difficult than making everyone continue to speak the same language that they are already speaking.
One possible scenario would be something like the Académie Française. The Académie is France's official authority on the usages, vocabulary, and grammar of the French language. However, in this setting the Académie Galactique is in charge of every language from a single point in time.
They're not a strictly conservative society, after all, the Académie Française creates new words all the time to protect the French language from Anglicisms. That would be the role of the Académie Galactique. Conserving the languages so that all of humanity is fluent in at least one of the original languages and making sure any new words are translated into the original languages. This means new technologies can be said and understood by colonists in distant parts of the galaxy.
Selecting the year that language is held in stasis would be difficult. Would it be when the first generation ship leaves Earth? When the first one arrives? When a million people are living beyond the solar system? Or a billion? The date is entirely arbritrary but I like to think of the 25th century as the best time to start the Académie Galactique.
I think with Brain Machine Interfaces and genetic engineering humans would be more than smart enough to be fluent in two languages with no issues at all. So being forced to be fluent in the equivalent of latin wouldn't be too much of a hardship. It also means the human race as a whole stays more interconnected than it otherwise would.
