Hi folks, does anyone get significantly more fatigued from cognitive (or emotional) exertion than physical? I feel awful after just 30min of sedentary but cognitively intensive work, and on days that I do work, I'm wiped out. On the other hand, I find that I can do some light jogging/longer walks as long as I don't have any cognitive exertion for at least 2 days prior and allergies/weather behave.
Bonus: anyone know of any studies/reports showing this? I've been googling but no luck. I'm appealing my disability claim and my insurer insists that my physical tolerance means I can work a desk job just fine, so I'm looking for any outside verification that cognitive stamina can be lower than physical.
Edit: Thanks for the award!
Hi guys, I'm writing here because it's been a year since I am living a roller coaster of symptoms.
I've had Hashimoto's since I was 12 (now I'm 30, female), but last year I developed Graves', with panic attacks and tachycardia, maybe for too much levothyroxine.
I stopped levothyroxine and was treated with methimazole, which gave me heavy side effects, until I almost couldn't move because I fainted.
Now my values are somewhat ok (TSH 1,1 and T3/T4 in the lowest range) and I'm not treated for anything, but my TPO is >4000 and I continue to have strong symptoms everyday: a high rest heart rate (>85 BMP with a beta-blocker), shortness of breath, exercise intolerance (I almost faint after some stairs) and nausea. They never stop.
I changed three endos because they sort of gave up on me.
I will have my new blood test results tomorrow.
In your experience, are my current symptoms compatibile with hypothyroidism?
Thank you.
UPDATE 1: today I had my blood test results. My TSH is low again (0,1), but my hormones are staying in the lowest range. TPO is 1000. TRAb (for Graves') is positive, but in range. Ferritine is low (40), even if in range. Cortisol levels are ok. Since I'm not being treated at the moment, I have a scheduled appointment with my endo next week.
UPDATE 2: some days ago I went to a gastroenterologist and he gave me a bunch of medicines for GERD. He told me just to try and see if I feel better. Well, I feel WAY better. My nausea vanished, I can fully breath again, I have my force again and and my heart doesn't pound anymore. The only thing that stays about the same is the high rest heart rate, that I'm managing with a beta-blocker (that before this cure hadn't almost any effect).
My husband and I will celebrate our 25th anniversary in mid-October, and we're very interested in visiting Key West. I've got 2 initial questions :
1 - I will be 3 months post-cancer treatment at that time, and I'm unsure what my energy levels will be. Is there enough to see and do for a 5- or 6-night trip if I'm unable to be super active?
2 - If the answer to my first question is no, would you recommend we divide the time between Key West and Miami? Or would you recommend somewhere besides Miami to divide the time with?
We have a good bit of flexibility so can come pretty much anytime after Oct 12. I'm aware of Fantasy Fest Oct 22-31.
The prognosis is excellent, I should be 100% cured, but radiation therapy SUCKS.
We'd appreciate any advice you can offer!
Hello Fibro Family, I want to know how many of you know what this is? Did your doctor tell you/explain about it? How many of you experience this after doing "too much" or simply getting ready to go some where, walking too long; 30 minutes for me, going to visit family or a friend or going to a doctor appt, etc...? I've been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and severe degenerative disc disease(18 years) for about 10 years now and not even ONE doc has mentioned it. I found it everywhere in my research after being diagnosed. If I do too much (for me, as it's different for everyone) the pain level skyrockets quickly. The fatigue is as though someone has drugged me with sleeping pills and it can last as long as 5 days. It's terribly disabling. I literally can't do anything but lie in bed on heating pad and sleep unless the pain interferes with the sleep. THIS is post exertion malaise to me. At times, I have slept for 17 hours!! When I finally get up, oh lordy am I stiff, can't walk straight up, etc... Thanks for reading and I pray everyone has a good weekend.
Hi
My father 60M has been in the hospital for nearly two months recovering from Covid-19. After testing negative from the virus a month ago, he has spent the last month fighting many complications - but the pulmonary recovery is what worries me the most. He has lost a lot of muscle mass, is weak etc but I need to know what causes his desaturation upon exertion.
Right now he is at 2-3L oxygen supplementation through a nasal cannula, maintains decent saturation while lying down, inclined position. However as soon as he exerts himself (brushing his teeth or eating food) the saturation hits early 90s. When he sits upright on a chair near the bed (after assistance) and 15L oxygen on an NRBM mask the saturation goes to lower to mid 80s and he has to lie down after 10-15 minute because he feels tired. However he does not feel breathless while sitting. I don't even want to know how much he will desaturate if he tries walking a few steps or standing for a few minutes. I will notice this next time as well but the last time I observed him, his blood pressure also fell upon exertion.
I have several questions at this point but the one I need answered is will this recover on its own as time passes? As far as I can remember, he has not recovered in this area i.e he has always desaturated this much upon exertion. There is fibrosis in his lungs but it's not a lot - that's what a radiologist told me and also a doctor. He has some lesions in his lower lung that have not completely resolved so he still is on steroid therapy.
The doctors do not tell me anything besides "give it time" we have tried physiotherapy a lot of times but the physiotherapist does not do anything after he notices how much dad desaturates while sitting. He said he is too weak for physiotherapy. He remains the same. There are many complications he has faced so far. First there was a fever (and perhaps a subclinical infection) that sent him back to the ICU, then there was a pseudoaneurysm in his pancreas for which he had a surgery and he is still recovering from it (although not in pain anymore)
Doctors are pressuring to get him discharged. They think he will contract a secondary infection if he continues to be here. but he is just so unwell! How do we even take him back home when he can't even SIT without desaturating despite max oxygen supply. Does anyone know what indicators I should look for/what do I talk to the doctors about?
Hi my fellow CFSers. I've been wondering for a while now... Is it possible that only emotional exertion causes PEM for someone with CFS? It's obviously harder to be physically active with the constant fatigue, headaches, etc, but I don't feel like I crash from physical exertion. Eg I had a particularly good day on Monday and did a 1.5h mountain climb without any repercussions after that. I've had plenty of times, however, where I've been really anxious and felt completely immobile and beat after that. Thoughts?
Anybody else have this? For about 9 days now I've been suddenly struck with this awful feeling after doing minimal physical exertion or eating.
After taking a brief walk to the bathroom or anything like that, I feel extremely fatigued and body aches after lying back down. Curiously, the fatigue symptoms actually go away when I'm mid exertion and only seem to get triggered a few minutes after I lie back down.
After lying back down from exertion, I start getting muscle pains all over my body, especially in the arms, thighs, legs, back, and shoulders. I also feel a general malaise feeling, like feverish (temperature is always normal though), and also extreme mental fatigue and tiredness/sleepiness. This feeling lasts anywhere from minutes to sometimes hours. Onset always when at rest after exertion of any type.
Anyone else feel this way? Onset was about 9 days ago. Most of my other existing dysautonomia symptoms are related to high heart rate and heat intolerance.
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Why YSK: This will help people be aware of the risks while shoveling snow, and therefore help prevent injury and even death during the winter season.
Apparently this particular COVID symptom I have is similar to chronic fatigue syndrome. It appears like this: if I do what normally would have been a small amount of exercise or activity such as mowing the lawn and other yardwork, the following morning when I wake up it feels like I ran 10 miles the day before. Arms and legs feel very weak and heavy, and of course there's the mental fatigue/brain fog as well.
My heart and lungs were spared by the virus - EKG is normal, chest x-ray is normal, and I never had any breathing problems (I do occasionally feel the chest tightness and heart fluttering, but I think it's anxiety).So what the heck is causing this weird form of fatigue? It's as if my muscles weren't getting enough blood or oxygen, but I don't think that's the case. Any ideas?
Hi all, as long haulers I’ll skip all the details of my worst 10 months and jump right in. Last 4 months I am certainly much better, daily life is good - I can pretty much enjoy the day. Essentially 20 minutes of anything puts me right back in bed for a few hours. Fatigue, malaise, etc comes on strong. The good news - it does pass in a few hours vs a few days or weeks like before. Anyone else out there going through the same thing? This is not a case of being de conditioned - it’s clearly the damn post viral crushing me. Hope if you’re reading this you’re getting better and appreciate any feedback. Peace
Does costo typically cause left sided chest pain on exertion? When pressing in the middle of my chest there is a sore spot near the left breast. I haven’t been diagnosed with costo so I’m worried about a heart issue. I did have an echo and the cardiologist said everything looked good.
Hello,
what do you think about integrating RPE for measuring the intensity of a set? In my opinion this would improve the ability to compare different sets, because I do not train every set to failure.
for example:
Set 1: 8 x 100kg RPE 8 (2 reps in reserve) => est. 1RM = 133kg
Set 2: 8 x 100kg RPE 9 (1 rep in reserve) => est. 1RM = 128.5kg
I feel like it’d be easier because it makes you weigh less but it makes me think it’s also harder because your limbs have to get through the water resistance.
To clarify, I mean those tanks with a treadmill at the bottom that you fill with water.
As far as I know... no. But since I was a teenager, I've had issues with feeling faint whenever I'm exercising or sometimes when I'm just standing for extended periods.
For example, in the past, sometimes when I'm working out, my vision will go white and my hearing will go and I'll start to feel nauseous. It lasts for a while and I have to stop exercising completely and sit down or I'll fall over. This would also sometimes happen when I'm standing on the train, though for no apparent reason. Sometimes I'm just standing and I get extremely hot, faint and sick and need to get off the train, which makes me late for class. I remember a few times I tried to go to an exercise class/trainer and I got sick within 15 minutes and was out of commission for 30 minutes after. It more often than not doesn't happen, but it happens very frequently with exercise.
I've told doctors and gotten all sorts of responses, from "drink more water" to panic attacks. I'm very sure it's not panic attacks. I've gone for stress tests with no results. EKG, no results. I've seen no apparent pattern to it so I'm curious if this is also an occurrence for people with Hashimoto's, especially if they need a dose increase. There have been many times in my life where I became hypothyroid between my appointments with the endocrinologist without knowing.
Reading, etc. Does anyone else have this? What are your theories as to the cause?
Hi all!
I decided, which I thought was a great idea, to clean my entire house on Sunday. 3 hours later, my house looked great and I was so proud. 2 hours later I had crazy body muscle cramps, heat pack to the rescue!
Monday comes and I can barely move all day, I get home and sit for an hour and then I get the most AGONIZING cramping. I’m talking keeled over, can’t talk, nothing is easing this pain. And then I pass 5 large clots. By Tuesday morning, I’m fine.
This isn’t a new realization to me. I’ve noticed this potential combination and the last time was in the hospital that night....
Has anyone else experienced that if you over exert yourself that your symptoms worsen?
My self-control is not very good. This usually results in binge consumption of unhealthy habits, but with Peloton I have myself in an interesting situation.
I’ve done about six rides on the scenic rides section and being able to see my previous record motivates me so much to break my own record that I feel as if I am headed towards injury if I do not actively practice self-control during my rides.
This has never happened with any other form of exercise, and it’s probably happening now because peloton introduces very direct performance feedback the way that other satisfying digital behaviors do.
Has anyone else had this experience?
edit: Thank you all for your responses and advice. It's much appreciated.
White Male 46 160lbs 6'
Non smoker. Non drug user. This has been happening for several months, but today I actually took some vitals.
Recently noticed I would get hot and out of breath while doing very minimal physical exertion.
Today, I picked up my laundry basket, walked it to the living room (15 ft or 5 meters) and was hot and sweaty. Certainly not enough physical exertion to create this feeling. I took some vitals while this was happening.
Pulse Ox 97%
Heart Rate 143
Blood Pressure 106/72
What is happening? Is my heart going out? Clogged arteries?
Anybody experience exertion headaches. Article is linked below to describe how I am feeling. I am only getting these intense headaches/migraines doing compound lifts. I can manage just doing accessories without causing any/very little discomfort.
http://www.apexllc.org/articles/exertion-headaches/
Been lifting for 5 years now, competing in Strongman for the last 2. I have never had a previous injury and do not experience frequent headaches or migraines at all.
I am 24 years old, 208 pounds if that matters. Only current supplements being taken right now other than preworkout and protein powder, no change in these. Diet is the same as well.
Some contributing factors could be:
•First Covid shot (Pfizer)
•Just bought a house and needs a ton of work as it is a fixer upper
•working with paints and solvents while working on house. I am wearing a respirator when using harsh chemicals.
•have been working extra hours.
•dealing with a bit of grief as I found out my young dog has Lymphoma
Not looking for medical advice, I have a doctors appointment May 17th. Honestly a bit frustrated as I want to keep training and get stronger and am looking at a competition in late August but wanted to go through a strength block first.
The skill says it gets 2 actions, but it costs an action to use the skill, so does basically just give you an extra action since you spent an action in order to get 2?
I’m a boxer and two days ago I sparred pretty hard for 6 rounds with two people. After practice the only thing that hurt was my jaw then later in the night the pain spread to my head.
It is now Thursday and while the headache isn’t continuous it comes and goes. In short I wanna know if this is the result of something serious or something I shouldn’t be worried about.
I'm interested in doing anime dubs, so knowing how to do those things would come in a lot of handy. If you have any tips for doing such things please let me know!
Hi all,
I'm a psychology undergrad student at university. I've been struggling with a lot of burnout lately under the stress of classes and extra curriculars and research and am realizing I need new hobbies.
Please write to me about your experiences with burnout, what helped, and/or your hobbies and favorite things to do!
Send me a message for the sending address and thank you!!💖
Edit: I'll be posting a thank you when I receive all the cards! :)
Edit2: Hi everyone, I'll be making a thank you post soon! I'm making sure I get everyone's cards in first! 5.17.21
28F (incontinent episodes started at 22)
I've had about 5 episodes of fecal incontinence through my 20s. For 3 episodes I was between 130-140 lbs (5") when they occurred and while running my normal easy 5km in 30 mins, a bit up hill but my normal. I'd have an urge and then suddenly it's down my pants. Kind of my worst nightmare coming true more than once.
The first episode I was overweight (175) after I had had a back injury (caught someone twice my size falling, dx DDD when poor healing) and was doing a hike. The last episode (fall 2020) I was overweight (185) and it happened again on a moderate hike, but I was conditioned and not very challenged by it.
They were single episodes, I didn't necessarily feel sick after, just humiliated. I've taken loperamide on long hikes since and always make sure I have a BM prior to runs. 1 time that didn't matter.
I have hemorrhoids from pretty frequent diarrhea in my teens (fatty foods) and 20s, I used to drink a lot through my adult years (2-4 times per week, I've been abstinent for 1 year). I don't smoke but had heavy smoke exposure as a kid. My family doctor told me in my 20s I should've gone to the ER when I developed my hemorrhoid because I had heavy bleeding but didn't give anymore advice.
A question for oldies here.
I'm 9 months into CFS and still figuring out what causes my crashes. I can "feel" that some level of physical exertion can be the culprit as I'll feel tired at the end of a task, same with socialising. But somehow, I hardly ever feel it when I do mental exertion (I'm a programmer by trade but on long-term sick leave). Could it be simply that I don't overdo it on that front? Or that I'm wrong and actually don't feel the warning signs I would in other activities?
Hi
My father 60M has been in the hospital for nearly two months recovering from Covid-19. After testing negative from the virus a month ago, he has spent the last month fighting many complications - but the pulmonary recovery is what worries me the most. He has lost a lot of muscle mass, is weak etc but I need to know what causes his desaturation upon exertion.
Right now he is at 2-3L oxygen supplementation through a nasal cannula, maintains decent saturation while lying down, inclined position. However as soon as he exerts himself (brushing his teeth or eating food) the saturation hits early 90s. When he sits upright on a chair near the bed (after assistance) and 15L oxygen on an NRBM mask the saturation goes to lower to mid 80s and he has to lie down after 10-15 minute because he feels tired. However he does not feel breathless while sitting. I don't even want to know how much he will desaturate if he tries walking a few steps or standing for a few minutes. I will notice this next time as well but the last time I observed him, his blood pressure also fell upon exertionexertion (from 110-75 to 94-65)
I have several questions at this point but the one I need answered is will this recover on its own as time passes? As far as I can remember, he has not recovered in this area i.e he has always desaturated this much upon exertion. There is fibrosis in his lungs but it's not a lot - that's what a radiologist told me and also a doctor. He has some lesions in his lower lung that have not completely resolved so he still is on steroid therapy.
The doctors do not tell me anything besides "give it time" we have tried physiotherapy a lot of times but the physiotherapist does not do anything after he notices how much dad desaturates while sitting. He said he is too weak for physiotherapy. He remains the same. There are many complications he has faced so far. First there was a fever (and perhaps a subclinical infection) that sent him back to the ICU, then there was a pseudoaneurysm in his pancreas for which he had a surgery and he is still recovering from it (although not in pain anymore)
Doctors are pressuring to get him discharged. They think he will contract a secondary infection if he continues to be here. but he is just so unwell! How do we even take him back home when he can't even SIT without desaturating despite max oxygen supply. Does anyone know what indicators I should look for/what do I talk to the doctors about?
