Ectopic Gestation Puns

I’ve been on quite the rollercoaster since my first positive pregnancy test. They thought that I was 6 weeks today, and I had an early ultrasound to rule out an ectopic since my early hcg numbers were abnormal. They told me on the first three betas that my pregnancy wasn’t viable. Then I had my fourth and it more than doubled..... and they called me and told me congrats I was pregnant and things were progressing normally. That I should have hope and perhaps it was just too early when they took the first few.

Hcgs: 11/16: 153 11/18: 164 11/20: 253 11/22: 546 11/30: 5,003

Fast forward to my ultrasound today- they saw a gestational sac measuring at .47cm but no yolk sac and no heartbeat. He said the gestation sac looked to be around 5w2d which would put me behind. Then looked for signs of ectopic. He told me that it could be ectopic or in my uterus and not viable....

Here are my questions though. If they saw a gestational sac in my uterus, wouldn’t that mea. It’s not ectopic? And if I’m dating on my scan at 5w2d could my dates be off and it’s just too early to see a yolk sac? He gave me options for d and c or metho injection and I can’t help but feel maybe he is jumping the gun, considering my betas came back at 5000 today.

Update: it’s ectopic and I have to go in for metho injections.

Buckle up for a long one 😬

I’m 32 and I’m this was my second pregnancy. First one was an ectopic loss on February of 2018 that was treated with Methotrexate successfully. This time around I wasn’t planning on trying since I wanted time to recover emotionally, physically and I had a planned and payed for trip to Spain, Morocco and Portugal with DH for 3 weeks on August. Also, I was scheduled for Hysterosalpingogram (HSG) when I returned from the trip to check if there was any blockage in my fallopian tubes.

Before leaving for the trip we had sex unprotected twice. Once, when I was on my non-fertile days (been using this “method” for 8yrs), and the other one in my most fertile day by accident. So I took a Plan B about 36hrs later. Take a guess which one got me pregnant lol.

I go on to my trip pregnant unbeknownst to me, and while waiting to catch a flight to Ibiza I realized my period is 2 weeks late, and I freaked out. It also sucked that I was absolutely sober in Ibiza and had to say goodbye to all that Spanish wine.

As soon as I come back I go to see my OBGYN uncertain of this being a viable pregnancy, but when I saw that little heartbeat my heart wanted to explode with happiness!

I started planning for a unmedicated home birth. My midwife was very thorough and professional throughout and had me see a OBGYN that supported home births since the get-go. He’d be on call at any moment if any complication arised. Pregnancy went on smoothly and I worked until the day I went on labor.

Towards the end of the third trimester my platelets came up low on my routine lab work. The normal ranges are 150,000 to 450,000. Mine came up at 90,000. OBGYN is not too concerned but my midwife sent me to a Hematologist. He repeated the lab work a week later- I was 39wks preggo- and they came up at 75,000. He was not worried either to my surprise. He said that some women develop low platelets during pregnancy because of the dilution in the extra amount of blood we are producing, and that a regular birth can occur with up to 40,000 platelet count. Also that I had an excess of MPV or giant platelets and these compensated in the coagulation factor. I officially had developed Gestational Thrombocytopenia and the risk of this was hemorrhaging during birth.

Midwife met with Hematologist and OBGYN and they agreed on giving me Pitucin as soon as I delivered baby to avoid excessive bleeding during the delivery of the placenta, if I decide to move forward with the home birt

So this whole experience has been a nightmare. I was thrilled to get a BFP on 11/24, first day of LMP was 10/21. I started spotting on 11/26 and panicked, went to the ER and was told inevitable miscarriage hcg was 1073. Then follow up doctors visit on 12/2 hcg was 1661, I was told it was a threatened miscarriage but since hcg was rising there’s hope. 12/6 hcg 2499, 12/10 hcg 3495. The doctor said he could tell me what was happening since hcg was rising but not doubling until ultrasound. Went this past Friday 12/17 and the tech told me my doctor would call with results, I called the office this morning and he’s left the practice and they don’t have a doctor so won’t be able to tell me what they see until they find a new one and that I should find a new provider, I’ve got an appointment with a new doctor in a different practice on 12/29 but they won’t read the ultrasound until they can see me. I got the result in my chart today but have no clue what I’m reading, other than it seems like there’s no baby and I’ll be miscarrying eventually. I’m devastated and frustrated and just totally lost. Any ideas or input? Anyone?

Ultrasound says

IMPRESSION: Please see below.

Exam: US OB LESS THAN 14 WKS SINGLE + TRANSVAG

Date/Time of Exam: 12/17/2021 2:42 PM

Reason For Exam: See Diagnosis.

Diagnosis: Supervision of other normal pregnancy, antepartum.

Findings: Uterus measures 9.4 x 5.8 x 4.0 cm with endometrial thickness of 1.1 cm. Endometrium is inhomogeneous. No intrauterine gestation demonstrated. Ovaries measure 2.5 x 1.9 x 2.0 cm on the right and 2.6 x 2.0 x 2.7 cm on the left. Subcentimeter cyst in the left ovary. No free fluid noted in the pelvis.

IMPRESSION: No definite significant pathologic finding demonstrated. No intrauterine gestation evident.

Just woke up from a stabbing pain in my left pelvic region. Pain was radiating. Example - stab stab stab stab stab stab stab stab stab stab then went away. I usually have pain there from my endo so idk what it is. Now it just stabs in one not multiple. Please help! 6 weeks today.

My doctor had me come in today for a vaginal ultrasound to confirm pregnancy. My periods are very regular and I know when I started my last and the day I conceived. I should be 5 weeks 1 day today. The nurse sat me down to tell me that the ultrasound “showed no sign of a pregnancy” and she said they should be able to see something (the gestational sac at least) at this point. She said it could just be too early, but she told me that she thinks I am having a chemical or ectopic pregnancy. I have to go get blood work done tomorrow and then again two days after that so they can see if e levels are rising, falling, or plateauing. I took a pregnancy test when I got home and it is very positive, like test line darker than control line positive, but apparently this can be a bad thing because of my hcg levels are really high and there’s no sign of pregnancy in my uterus, then the possibility of it being a chemical or ectopic pregnancy is pretty high. Has anyone been through this?? What ended up happening for you??

Hi! Not seeking a retroactive diagnosis, just feeling confused and wondering if I’m not alone in this experience.

My ectopic was almost exactly a year ago, but I’ve been reflecting on it a lot recently as we are getting married in June and will start TTC in July. I’m also just a grieving mother without her baby; it’s hard for me to not harp on my loss sometimes.

My doctor has never been able to give me what I consider to be a satisfactory answer for this. I was about 5 weeks along (I found out I was pregnant VERY early on, just had a hunch so I took a billion tests). My hcg levels were low (I sadly cannot remember exactly what they were!), but they were steadily doubling and even sometimes quadrupling. Then one day I had what I assumed was a “typical”miscarriage. I had intense cramps and bleeding, and I eventually passed a giant “clot,” though it definitely did not appear to be blood. I could see that this clot was smooth and almost a light-medium brown. Definitely not blood. A google search convinced me it was a gestational sac that I had passed, and that I was experiencing a pretty standard miscarriage. I was sad, but accepted this fate and contacted my doctor. He agreed that it seemed to be a miscarriage, and sent me in for another blood test.

They called me after to let me know that my hcg had continued to rise, and that it was likely ectopic at this point. You know the drill from there. I requested an ultrasound, but nothing was detected. I was treated with one dose of MTX and thankfully it ended steadily and without surgery.

When I asked my doctor why I passed this brown clot, he said, “eh, it was probably just blood.” I’ve never seen a blood clot like that before, and I can’t get an answer as to why I had ONE intense cramping/bleeding episode. But then…if it was a miscarriage, why would my hcg continue to rise? I don’t know, it’s just odd to me and I can’t find any similar stories online. Has anyone here had a similar experience?

I decided to do a new post as this is very different from my last ectopic.

Quick summary, I've had an ectopic before in my left tube, recently found out I was pregnant. HCG series shows (as the nurse said) my numbers rising beautifully. They are saying I'm 7 weeks but I'm likely 6 die to late ovulation (my cycles have been 5 weeks not the typical 4)

Today I got my ultra sound and they did find a sac with yolk (no fetal pole yet) however, it is an "eccentrically placed gestational sac with yolk sac near the right cornua". I was told it could grow up into the tube or stay out and grow in the thin part of my uterus causing a bulge or could grow towards the meatier part of my uterus. Come back in two weeks and we'll see what it's doing and see if there is a fetal pole.

This left me feeling worse than I went in. I didn't think I could get worse news than, it's not I'm your uterus it's likely in your tube again, but I did.

I got so excited when she found the sac and it was engulfed in endometrial lining I cried. All of that excited was replaced by confusion and terror when the Dr explained that it could still be ectopic AND it could result in a uteran rupture. Just a big WTF kind of day.

Anyway, just wanting to vent I guess. I don't find many postings about this type of thing on here but if anyone has any experience (good or bad) relating to this I would appreciate reading about it. I'm going to drive myself crazy over the next two weeks.

5 weeks 5 days only gestational sac. I’ve been here before, only last time I was supposed to be 8 weeks and there was no yolk sac or fetal pole. I’m hoping this time there will be a baby there in a week or two but I’m also prepared for the same situation to happen even though idk if I can handle it again. I’ve been crying all day.

The only reason I found out and got checked up is because I went to the ER yesterday because I was having sharp pains in the middle lower part of my abdomen and they were so bad I was on the floor. I couldn’t even sit properly while my husband was taking me to the hospital. I was scared it was ectopic but now we know it’s not, I still don’t know what that pain was.

And then on top of all this, the ER is super booked because of COVID and my husband got into words with one of the security guys outside because they weee being a jerk so he’s screaming outside like a maniac while I’m waiting on the line to be seen. Because he was screaming and I was feeling stressed I tried to talk to him but there was no talking to him. Also on the ride I was so worried I caused the pain to myself and I told him I carried all these bags of laundry and two boxes of water and I ask him for help and he doesn’t help me and he took that as it’s his fault this happened to me. We ended up fighting because of this.. I’m just a mess, and I just feel so alone. And so scared right now. I have my OB appointment tomorrow, it was already scheduled before this whole ordeal. Thanks for reading if you made it this far.

Update: I went to my DR two days later and they saw a yolk sac and a small fetal pole!! Really praying it keeps growing from here ❤️

Hi everyone today I went to my first ultrasound and I should be 6+4 and there was nothing in my uterus no gestational sack or anything. We also looked around my ovaries and tubes for an ectopic but couldn’t see anything either. I took my last beta a week ago and everything looked great. At this point I understand this is turning into a miscarriage now I am just worried it’s ectopic. I re did my betas today she said if they come back under 1,000 it would explain why we couldn’t see anything in my uterus but if they have continued to rise then we need to worry about it being ectopic. Has anyone been in a similar situation? This is my second loss I had a D&C the first time so I have no experience with a natural miscarriage or an ectopic pregnancy? Would and ectopic pregnancy at 6 weeks be visible? Also if my hcg comes back under 1000 and there is clearly nothing in my uterus when can I expect to start bleeding?

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I went in for my first US thinking I was 7 weeks pregnant but I only measured at 5w4d and was only able to see a gestational sac. I went in thinking that I was going to hear my baby's heartbeat for the first time and left in absolute shock that my first baby might not be developing. My doctor ordered a 48hr HCG draw which came back at 16,400 then at 24,900. My doctor followed back up to say they believe that my pregnancy is ectopic based on my hcg levels. They said that with levels that high, something should have been visualized during my ultrasound and they believe my pregnancy is ectopic. My doctor stated to go to the ER if I have any pain, or any signs of bleeding.

Has this happened to anyone and had good news? I am absolutely devastated thinking over my potential loss and want to stay hopeful, but cannot get over this news and the potential for what could happen. I have had minor cramping since finding out I was pregnant that will come and go, but it is not specific to one side like an ectopic pregnant should be. I also have not had any bleeding nor have I had any other types of pain, and my mild cramping honestly seems to coincide with when I haven't had a bowel movement in a few days.

I have read about blighted ovums but I am not sure what to think. Has anyone else been in a similar situation recently?

Hi! Has anyone had a scan yet? I am 4 weeks and 4 days and just had a scan to rule out an ectopic. Had severe one sided pain but they found a gestational sac, 4mm. They couldn’t see a yolk sac though, hoping it’s just too early.

Warning: long and ranty, I’ve got a lot to say about this. Also talking about pregnancy termination obvs and some light medical information.

Hello! Lately I’ve noticed people asking about accessing abortion here and on r/auntienetwork being referred to either Planned Parenthood(PP) or somewhere online like Plan C or Aid Access. While I’m so grateful for any kind of abortion providers and their work I’d like to talk to you all about why you should consider going to/directing people towards your local independent abortion clinic (indie) if one is available to you!

In the US most people think of PP when talking about abortion. Did you know though that 3 out of 5 abortions are done at indies? 81% of abortions after 22 weeks are done at indies. And 80% of indies provide both medication and suction abortion compared to just 48% of PP clinics. As of 2014 there were 272 abortion clinic left in the US, 106 of those are indies. In hostile states where there are only 1-2 clinics left open, it’s the indies who are still standing.

A note on medication vs suction abortion: I’ve noticed a lot of recommendations on here default to medication abortion. While both are safe and effective ways of ending a pregnancy there are a number of reasons why suction may be a better option for some: short procedure(some clinics offer sedation/anesthesia making for a pretty much pain-free experience besides some cramping afterwards during recovery) vs 3-6 hours of more intense cramping with medication, generally shorter/easier recovery, relief of knowing you are no longer pregnant right away, reassurance of having medical staff right there with you, further gestational age, some medical conditions history make suction a safer option etc…obviously there are also pros to medication-less invasive, more privacy, some see it as ‘more natural,’ good for those who are averse to docs/procedures etc…And obviously access is a huge factor and medication abortion may be more available (lots of indies are doing telehealth medication abortions FYI!!!) for some. But ideally both options should be presented and everyone should have the choice between the two so it’s important to support the clinics that do provide both!

Now back to PP. No hate to PP I’m so grateful for the increased access and lobbying power they give to our country HOWEVER from what I’ve heard in my 7 years in abortion care from former PP patients and people in the field who have worked there say they face a lot of the same issues

This is my 3rd pregnancy. My first unassisted pregnancy (2018) was uneventful & resulted in my 4yro daughter. My 2nd unassisted pregnancy (2021) was ectopic & resulted in surgical removal of my right tube. Got a BFP 10 days ago, no pain or bleeding like with my 2nd pregnancy, so I’ve been cautiously optimistic up until yesterday. Yesterday I had my first scan, & my uterus is completely empty. They couldn’t even see a gestational sac. So, obviously, I’ve been freaking out & trying to get someone from my OB/GYN‘s office on the phone. I have a follow up scheduled for February 7, but if I have a ticking internal bleeding time-bomb in my body, that’s really too long to wait. I don’t have any pain or bleeding but I’m terrified of losing another body part. I feel like my empty uterus is a glaring red flag, bc I’m 100% sure of my LMP dates. I should be 6w3d, so they should’ve been able to see something, right? The ultrasound tech looked really good for a while & said she couldn’t see pregnancy or an ectopic mass anywhere. The notes on the ultrasound said “exam was limited due to bowel shadowing” and I took that to mean that there could be either 1) an ectopic mass or 2) a viable pregnancy, but neither was visible due to the shadowing? Idk. I’m trying to hold on to some optimism, but right now I’m just terrified about internal bleeding.

I am after any advise stories or otherwise that will assist me with my current situation.

Background:
41 yo female (nil fertility issues other than age, nil losses before this year 2 older children previous partner. Hubby 34yo severe MFI (less than 1% morphology) nil children.

3rd pregnancy this year. - all untested embryos. Nil losses before IVF.

FET # 1 MCMA twins lost at 9w6d

FET # 2 chemical pregnancy beta 4

FET # 3 - current one. 4BA improved to 4AA day of thaw- transferred the 8th of December.

Cramping 2-3dpt and First vvvvfl positive 8dpo PM (4DPT) FRERs progressed to 13dpo (9DPT) then ? stalled but have picked back up again - this possibly correlates with betas

…. and this is where the issue is because I did private labs (in Aus) then presented to ED with severe R sided pelvic pain and this was the outcome:

Betas

6dpt (11dpo) 46 - private

8dpt (13dpo) 88 - private

9dpt (14dpo) 103 - private ** 80 at the hospital that afternoon

11dpt (16dpo) - 173 hospital

12 dpt (17 dpo)- 262 IVF official required to close cycle.

13dpt (18dpo) - 368 hospital.

9dpt sudden onset of right sided pain ++ like nothing I’ve felt before so off to ED we go with even me querying an ectopic. - pain self resolved (now only mild dull ache2-3/10 constant)

Ultrasound shows 2 large haemorrhage corpus lethum cysts right ovary - ? Ectopic (bedside scan)

? Pregnancy of unknown location (PUL) which isn’t surprising given gestation and betas.

2 follow up formal scan shows the same cysts however no obvious ectopic and still PUL - repeat again Friday and then Wednesday next week.

I’m in some kind of beta hell(ish) that seems to have resolved for now (🤞🏼) and PUL hell and just after any advise, thoughts or comments at all!!

Thank you for reading ❤️ Also posted on r/fertilitybabies

Update 24/12 - beta up to 1791 (over 3 days)- gestation sac confirmed intrauterine messing spot on for 5 weeks, no ectopic thankfully and the cysts remain stable with bleeding having stopped. Next scan 6.5 weeks to check for embryonic structures. Thank you to everyone who replied.

Update 4/1/22 - empty sac 6w4d measuring 6w5d likely blighted ovum back next week to confirm and manage.

Hello all - I wanted to share what I’ve been going through because I really have no where else to rant.

On December 28th, days after finding out I was pregnant, I drove two hours to planned parenthood for a surgical abortion. They did an ultrasound, only to find no embryo in my uterus. They said I was 5 weeks pregnant by the size of the gestational sac. The nurse brought up that my pregnancy could be ectopic and that we needed to wait another week to do another ultrasound, because an abortion could be life threatening under these conditions. I was definitely panicked but I decided to take it in stride because there was nothing I could really do. (I don’t think my pregnancy is ectopic, because I’ve had really no intense cramping)

So, fast forward to the day before my appointment, on January 4th. I get a call saying my doctor has covid and I can’t get another ultrasound or my abortion until the 18th.

I am so worried sick, and tired of waiting. My new semester of college has started and I spend everyday in class not being able to focus due to nausea. I talk to my boyfriend about my thoughts but get frustrated because I feel he doesn’t understand the extent of my concerns. I just want this to be over!

Posted here previously, but wanted to share again since I have an update.

My HCG is low and slow rising. It was almost doubling every two days for the first few draws, but then it took 5 days to go from 637 to 1400 something. That’s a doubling time of 100 hours - obviously not good. My doctor had me come in right away for a scan to rule out ectopic. We saw the gestational and yolk sac in the right place thankfully! I should have been 6 weeks at that point but measured ~5 weeks 3 days.

My doctor says I’m not out yet but I feel out. Anyone have any similar stories (good or bad)? My next scan is Thursday so just trying to get by until then 😔

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So my last period was on 11/12/21 but my periods are super irregular. I tested positive with a faint line on 12/31/21, so I scheduled an appointment to confirm the pregnancy on the following Friday: 01/07/22. At the appointment my pregnancy was confirmed so they offered me an ultrasound since I was about 8 weeks (according to my last period).

During the ultrasound no gestational sac was found so I was immediately sent to the ER for a “possible ectopic pregnancy”. In the back of my mind I felt like I was a lot earlier than 8 weeks due to my irregular periods, but being sent to the ER freaked me out. Not to mention I had another ultrasound at the hospital where they thankfully couldn’t find anything in my fallopian tubes, but they still told me my uterus was empty. This day my blood was also drawn and my hCG level was 1,456 and was marked as “high”. They concluded that they do believe this is a viable, early pregnancy and to follow up with their OB.

This morning (01/10/22) I had my blood drawn again and my hCG level was at 3,910 after less than 72 hours, also marked as “high”. I’m not sure what to make of any of this and I’m really starting to worry. Does anyone have any similar stories or have helpful information on what I’m going through?

At the beginning of 2021 I wrote in my manifestation journal that by the end of the year, I would be pregnant. I guess I should have been more specific and instead said to myself that I would I have a viable and healthy pregnancy.

After nearly two years of TTC with hypothyroidism and PCOS I found out I was pregnant in November. I was so excited but almost immediately had all these intrusive thoughts about miscarrying. I tried to reason with myself and tried to convince myself that my pregnancy would be healthy but I just couldn’t shake the feeling. My first US at what should have been 6w showed nothing. I was sad but my OB discussed with me that I’m likely earlier than I thought since my cycles are so long and irregular. However he was also worried that I may be having an ectopic pregnancy. Cue major anxiety over this for the next week before I could get in for my next US. At my next US we saw a gestational sac and I was so relieved. This meant it wasn’t ectopic and my fears of my tube rupturing were gone. I thought to myself “ok things are growing, maybe I can stop worrying.”

I had slow rising hcg (doubling time around 72 hours from when I started tracking that around 1600). Everywhere I read said that after this point that’s normal. My last HCG level last week was over 10,100. It’s been two weeks since my last US when we saw the sac and I was feeling less than hopeful that I was going to receive good news going into this appt. The second I saw the screen I knew it wasn’t good. The tech could barely find the sac because it was so small, even with doing a t/v US. I was still measuring 5 weeks when I should (based on when I ovulated) be at least 7 weeks. 10 weeks if you’re counting from my last period.

I go back in next week to discuss D&C which I have chosen as my preferred method. I’m finding myself angry with this baby and hating that my body has given zero signal of a miscarriage. No bleeding at all and no cramping.

The sad part is I’m now feeling like I’m never going to have a healthy and viable pregnancy. If my intuition was right about this pregnancy, I feel like I should still trust what it’s saying. I know logically this is crazy talk but I can’t help but feel this way now.

I’m adopted and for as long as I can remember I’ve dreamt of being pregnant and being a mom to biological children who actually look like me, who I share the same blood with. I couldn’t wait to grow up, find a husband and become pregnant and become a mom.

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A user shared this a few days ago which I had to remove due to it lacking a sufficient explanation of what the prolife article entailed.

I was, however, intrigued by the article and decided to write a rebuttal to it. I will note that I wrote this rebuttal as I read it and I wrote it hastily (still took me an hour and a half...) so please forgive anything that is written gruffly or misspelled.

https://www.mccl.org/post/2016/12/19/my-body-my-choice-why-bodily-autonomy-doesnt-justify-abortion

>Some people think that the unborn (the human embryo or fetus) is a mere part of the woman's body. But science, of course, has established that the unborn—though physically dependent on and inside of the mother—is a distinct, self-developing individual with his or her own DNA, brain, arms and legs, etc.

Science has determined that an embryo is a new organism. This does not, however, confer that it is a separate individual.

Embryos are homeostatically intertwined with the human organism that is the pregnant person. They are metabolically, immunologically, topologically, and functionally a part of another person's body. I wrote about this here.

I applaud that there is a lack of erasure here (as is evident in so many prolifers rhetoric) however, there is still a dismissal of the role of gestation by referring to the biological realities as mere dependency and locale.

There is zero attempt to acknowledge the biological differences between born and unborn humans. If done in the setting of, say, elder care, this would be akin to making zero differentiation between a caregiver changing a catheter bag and giving them their kidney. Giving someone the abilities of your bodily functions would be seen as a requirement no different than helping them to the bathroom. It is self evident that there are differentiations.

This also covers up the fact that humans are unique in the human rights they have due to their sentience. And by this I mean there is ignoring of the concept of personhood. It presupposes that human organism and personhood are synonymous without defending that. If we ignore these factors, there argument seems plausible, especially to those not versed in this debate. Because of this, prolifers are able to get people on board with their ideology from arguing from a position of authority rather than on the merits of their arguments. This type of false presentation is rampant in a

FINAL UPDATE: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/nmgzpv/im_about_30_hours_in_to_my_medical_abortion_right/gzpz933/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

UPDATE: Ok wowza you guys!!!! I can't wait to jump in and read all of your responses. I'm so touched you have no idea! While skimming a few responses and messages in my notifications, I see a bunch of you are asking what state I live in and what organization helped me. I live in Louisiana and the organization that I reached out to is called New Orleans Abortion Fund. They are amazing human beings. Your donations would mean the world to me, them, and women in Louisiana who are dealing with this difficult experience with even worse parameters than I am. THANK YOU!

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I think I just want to share my experience with someone who may understand. Or maybe this will have info that will help someone down the line. I haven't told anyone in real life about my abortion (except for my housemate just so she was aware incase I needed medical assistance), so I have no one to update or share my story with right now. Feels very isolating, tbh.

I got pregnant from an extremely drunk one night stand on April 18th of this year. I knew I was pregnant before I even missed my period. I took a pregnancy test on May 1st and it was positive, so I then took 6 more and queue anxiety attack. I do not know the father's last name or have his phone number to contact him but I didn't want to anyway. I had already made my decision right then and there and didn't need his help to do so, so involving him was irrelevant in my opinion and just messy for no reason.

On May 3rd I started calling the clinics. My state is unfortunately a very backwards and conservative place that does not make it easy for us. There are only 3 clinics in the state and the furthest one from me being 5 hours, closest is about 20 minutes. They're all owned by the same company so when you call to make the appointment, a receptionist then tries to connect you to scheduling at the clinic of your choosing. 100% of the time for me, the receptionist would come back and tell me that all scheduling agents were on the line and to call back in 2 minutes to try to get one. I thought this was ridiculous the first 10 times I did it, so you can imagine my frustration after 30+ times at all 3 clinics. On my last try for that day, I got through to a scheduling agent only for her to tell me they couldn't take any more

Hey guys, I’m looking into sterilization options given that the Supreme Court here in the US will most likely overturn Roe v. Wade next year.

I’ve known I’m CF since I was a girl, have had an ectopic pregnancy when relying on condoms for birth control about 8 years ago now, and am already down one fallopian tube as a result due to the ectopic rupturing in it.

I have PCOS as well and hormonal birth control causes weight gain and mood issues in me and so is not an option. Because of PCOS and having already had an ectopic I’m at an increased risk for another ectopic as well as gestational diabetes, so it’s not a matter of carry the parasite to term then give it up. Pregnancy is Russian roulette for me.

I cannot stress enough how potentially damaging a pregnancy would be to my physical and mental health, and I truly fear the US will come for birth control next. Either no longer covered by health insurance or prescribed out of wedlock, I’m not certain, but it is inevitable at this rate. Not that this is even an option for me.

Another ectopic pregnancy is terrifying because I’m unsure if terminating an ectopic would even be legal once Roe v. Wade is overturned?

Having been raped as a teen I can’t be 💯 sure I’ll never be raped again. As someone with CPTSD whom is also neurodivergent I seem to be easily targeted.

I can’t be 💯 certain condoms will always work. I can’t ask my partner to get sterilized, because it’s something I want for me, or rather I feel I shouldn’t ask it of him. We’re currently engaged though now I’m even questioning marriage with the state of this country, and the laws and such around marriage are unappealing to say the least. Wedding planning was put on indefinite hold for us.

From my research having the other fallopian tube cut/tied/removed could still allow for an ectopic pregnancy, and a uterine ablation procedure sounds terrifying! 😭

Who else is considering sterilization in the US due to this nonsense?

Who here has had these procedures and what have been your experiences?

Pain levels, recovery time, sex drive, satisfaction, are all metrics I’m looking at. Any feedback would be super helpful!

So, I ended up in the ER yesterday due to very bad cramping on my left side. I was concerned about an ectopic pregnancy, so I went in and they gave me a transvaginal ultrasound.

I know this is not relevant, but oh my god, the PA I talked to had the worst bedside manner ever. My nerves went from 0 to 60. When she came in with the ultrasound report, she admitted to knowing nothing about OB (she said “this is why you call your OB instead of coming to the ER” …. Sorry lady, I don’t even have an OB yet and I thought I might be dying?) and having no idea how to interpret the results. Understandable, but frustrating.

This is the report: The uterus demonstrates retroversion with overall size of 7.3 x 2.7 x 4.3 cm with a 4 mm anechoic lesion of the upper cervix, consistent with nabothian cyst. The fundal endometrial canal contains a gestational sac with mean sac diameter of 1 cm a crown-rump length of 0.2 cm. A yolk sac is present. Estimated gestational age measures 5 weeks 3 days. Fetal heart rate measures 76 bpm.

My HCG measured around 10,000.

I thought I was 5w and 5d, so not too far off there. But the heart rate did seem low and to add insult to injury, the radiographer added a note at the bottom: “fetal demise highly likely.”

I’m cycling through heartbreak, acceptance, grief, anger, and hope.

I’ve had no bleeding so far. Just bad cramps. This is my first pregnancy, so I have no frame of reference as to what is normal, but what I’ve read online seems to indicate that even if the heart just started beating, which is likely considering how early on my pregnancy is, it should be more in the 90-100 range.

I guess the point of my babbling is, has anyone had a similar situation, or can anyone offer any insight? Any and all experiences welcome.

I do have an appointment with an OB on Friday, but the OB office told me it would just be a 30 minute appointment to discuss my goals for my pregnancy and what kind of care I would like, even though I conveyed what the ER visit was about and what I learned from it.

This is all so scary and uncertain. I just want answers, even if they’re bad.

Small update: I saw my OB yesterday. As I mentioned, it was just a brief appointment. They drew a ton of blood and we discussed family histories, etc. They scheduled me for an ultrasound on Wednesday. I’m anxious to hear how my pregnancy is going and like I said, even if it’s bad news, it’s better than no news. I asked the OB what she thought about the radiology report and s

I’m 5 weeks 2 days pregnant and up until today have had normal pregnancy symptoms; full/sore breasts, fatigue, frequent urination, mood swings, increased sense of smell. Yesterday I went in for a vaginal ultrasound and they didn’t see a gestational sac, and they said they should had been able to see it by 5 weeks. The nurse practitioner told me she thinks I may be having a chemical or ectopic pregnancy. I went this morning to get blood work done and have to go back again in two days and get it done again then they’ll compare it and see how things are looking and go from there. Anyways I noticed today that all the symptoms I was having have pretty much completely disappeared and I don’t feel pregnant. My breasts were full and extremely sore and now they’re not full and not sore. My sense of smell seems normal. Still tired but I think that’s because I couldn’t sleep last night. Has anyone been through something similar? If so, how did things turn out for you?

Sorry this is long. I'm just in a bad place right now and just need to get it out.

I'm single and have been seeing a fertility specialist to get pregnant. We've been doing IUIs and this is my 7th cycle ttc. I had miscarriages in June and September of this year. I'm currently 6w

I went to the doctor this morning for another Beta HCG since my last result showed I wasn't rising like I should. On the way there (they're about an hour and half away from me) I started having intermittent stabbing pains on one side of my uterus. My heart just dropped. I had these exact pains the day before I miscarried in September.

I go in and talk with the receptionist and tell her my concerns since none of the doctors or nurses are there yet. I go back for blood work and then check back in with her and she has me wait until the doctor gets there. A couple nurses checked in on me and called my doctor I guess they were worried about an ectopic.

I eventually went back for an ultrasound and found out that while it's not an ectopic pregnancy the gestational sac is a week smaller than it should be. She said something else about something with an h but I was honestly in shock at that point and don't remember. Doc said that combined with my numbers she doesn't have much hope and thinks that the only reason it's still there is because I'm on progesterone.

She said we can wait but I think she said that because I was so emotional. She said going off the progesterone would allow it to pass but I can wait until I'm ready but no more than 10 days.

I'm just absolutely gutted. This will be my third miscarriage. I've had so many tests done and everything comes back normal so I don't know what's wrong. Right now I'm waiting on my lab tests to come back. I kind of want my HCG to go down so I don't feel like I'm the one stopping and ending it. I don't know how to make the choice to stop the meds and end it if the numbers are still going up. I don't know if I can handle that.

My last two miscarriages were easier in a way because my HCG never rose that high. I knew from the start that it wasn't going to work with those. That allowed me not to get too connected. This one is different. I felt it inside and I talked to it multiple times a day and now it's just over.

No one knows I was even pregnant except for my parents so I'll have to go into work tomorrow and put on a happy face and pretend I'm not dying inside. I just want to hide under the covers and sleep for a week.

UPDATE - Found out

Tw : loss mentioned

Sorry about typos / format on phone

Back in October I found out I was pregnant & the first week of November I miscarried , well three weeks go by and I test positive again. Apparently a whole new pregnancy!

I went to the ER to make sure it was ectopic / everything had gotten out from previous miscarriage & that this wasn’t left over as I was having extreme abdominal pain but no bleeding where they confirmed a pregnancy and an ovarian cyst.

Two days later I had an appointment with my OB & they did a vaginal exam & he put me @ five weeks two days. And by that math today I’m supposed to be 7w+5d but I went to a private ultrasound clinic. She did an abdominal ultrasound & honestly it looks like there hasn’t been any growth since my original ultrasound.

I asked her what she would have put me at gestational -ly and she had said “late five weeks.”

I’m so worried that I’m not progressing & that this is just going to be another loss. The better two options , I’m just not as far along as the originally put me , or that bc the ultrasound was done differently it might not have been as accurate.

My next appointment is on the 28th and I feel like I’m holding my breathe until then

Firstly I’m so so sorry for your loss if your here and I hope time brings some peace and light to your life again. It’s been almost a year since I found out I was first pregnant and I’m still no closer to understanding why or how my miscarriage happened and I think understanding it would help me so reaching out as I need to try and get some closure. I’m really hoping for signposting I guess to some sciencey type people who can explain this or someone who had the same thing so I am noting just pregnancy facts themselves here, please know that my heart hurts just as much as it did thinking back and I really feel for anyone going through a Mc, it’s awful.

At our 7w scan we were told that there was a gestational sac but no fetal pole etc, the sac was empty. I had been feeling super pregnant and had dizziness, pulling sensations in the groin and really sore boobs. We were asked to go back to the EPAU 2 weeks later. I had a scan in between as was admitted to hospital for suspected ectopic due to pain however this wasn’t the case, at this point my HCG was tested twice and it was really high - I think they said 30,000 - they were fully expecting to see an embryo on my next scan but that didn’t happen. They tested my HCG again 2 days later and it had risen but not doubled. I was told in my scans that I had ovulated from both ovaries as I had luteal cysts on them both and this may have caused the pain. Those scans and the scan 2 weeks later showed no growth of anything and the sac had started to change shape and decrease slightly. All the time I’m still feeling very very pregnant (albeit no sickness). I took misoprostal in the end and the Mc completed at around 13 weeks. This is what I don’t get: When I read about blighted ovum some of the information says that hcg should stop rising once the embryo stops growing, so what happened with me? Why was my hcg rising when my embryo was no longer there and hadn’t been for possible weeks?

I should note as it’s not clear, altogether I had about 8-10 scans (internal) right up until 9-10 weeks before taking misoprostal - all the same sad news and empty black sac.

Little vent/pity party bc I don’t want to bombard my loved ones who are also dealing with the effects of this loss. Ughhhhh. This pregnancy had NO symptoms of being ectopic until literally the day it ruptured. An early ultrasound had confirmed gestational sac in uterus, nothing was detected in my remaining tube, and hcg was quadrupling. We let ourselves go all in and feel all of the hope and excitement. So it was a huge let down when I ended up in emergency surgery again, and they had to take my remaining tube… Everyone always told me not to rush into having kids because I was young and healthy, no one ever talked about risks since we started trying at 23. I never in my wildest dreams/nightmares thought I would have gone through the first ectopic, never mind a second, and end up childless and tubeless at 25. 😔

I'm an ex member of the OTO, Ordo Templi Orientis, a cult/order/secret society which used to be strongly tied to Freemasonry but separated after it became a Thelemic organization led by Aleister Crowley. I used to be really into Crowley and was going through a strange time in my life so I sought out the OTO and was initiated almost a decade ago. I was an initiate for several years but left after a series of events beginning with me discovering some extremely concerning documents showing that within the later degrees of the initiatory system there were signs of abuse of a kind I can't put into less crass terms than experimentation on pregnant women and their foetuses. I also left because the Order was becoming increasingly political with two distinct sides fighting for control, one of which being the far right.

The majority of what I found truly disturbing came from a book published in 1973 called The Secret Rituals of the OTO by Francis King. King got into a lot of trouble for writing that book but at the time of publishing the OTO had become defunct and would no longer operate. He wrote it to make sure history would remember that which no longer existed but the OTO managed to survive through its near collapse and tried to silence him and the book. By silence him I mean legally and through strongly worded messages, not anything more sinister. I can confirm from my own initiations that the book is accurate although the passwords for each degree have changed. What terrified me was the 8th, 9th and 10th degree material though. I knew going into the Order that the later degrees and "secrets" had to do with sex but I always thought it was about sexual energy and other newagey stuff not well... here are some quotes:

"Thus, supposing that the re-incarnating Ego enters the foetus at the third month of gestation, it would not serve to remove such foetus from the mother, and cause it to live; for it is already human. But a foetus of two months might become homunculus."

"The classical method of making the homunculus is to take the fertilized ova of a woman and to reproduce as closely as may be, without the uterus, the normal conditions of gestation therein."

"For: in the case of ectopic gestation, it is clearly possible for the ovum to develop for a considerable period; and a child of 4½ months weighing nine ounces, has been known to live for over an hour after delivery. These considerations encourage us. Life is indefinitely adaptable, and life originally appear

This is my first pregnancy after my ectopic last year. I'm 34. Early on they told me I was miscarrying and I didn't. At 10 weeks I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes, 12 weeks I started insulin. To date, I have lost 15 pounds.

I'm 16 weeks now and at my recent scan they saw that I have a very short cervix and low amniotic fluid. Anyone have the same thing? What happened?

I just want an honest answer if I should prepare myself for another loss, if the hope is even worth it.

I just came back from an appointment where it was confirmed that there is no fetus and only an enlarged yolk sac. I did not have much hopes for this pregnancy from the beginning - there was a lot that was worrisome about it right from the beginning. Starting with low HCG, ectopic concern, low lying gestational sac and finally culminating in this. I go back next week for a final confirmation.

I know early pregnancy losses are a common tragedy. But I already went through the uncommon tragedy of a loss at 21 weeks last year. I also have PCOS and suspected endometriosis. So getting pregnant is not easy and now it seems like neither is staying pregnant. Sorry for the rant. I just want to lie down and cry. But I have to work and I'm mostly numb.

I posted to this sub several days ago that I was newly pregnant and about to celebrate my daughter's first birthday. While the timing was a bit unexpected, we were excited to complete our family and have babies close in age. Sunday while at the park with my daughter and her grandparents, I felt something leaking from my vagina. My heart dropped. I knew something was wrong but convinced myself it was fine, I had similar bleeding at the beginning of my last pregnancy, freaked out and went to the ER only to be told and shown everything was fine.

Monday was my daughter's first birthday. I called my doctor that morning to get an appointment and ultrasound and was told they couldn't see me until November 17th. I said that wouldn't do, I was having some light bleeding, no pain. They said I should go to the ER. Why would I go to the ER?! If I'm not having pain, I'm not worried about an ectopic pregnancy. That means it's either normal bleeding or I'm having a miscarriage - both scenarios in which I throw down $1500 to be sent home. We went to the zoo with my daughter to celebrate her big day and I continued to feel bleeding throughout the day. I put on my happy face for my daughter while trying to get an appointment through mychart chat. Finally a nurse was able to get me an ultrasound appointment first thing yesterday morning and a midwife appointment a few hours later.

I showed up for the ultrasound. It took 15 minutes and the person who performed it said nothing to me. I waited 2 hours for my next appointment. While waiting for the midwife to come in, I saw the chart notes posted. And there it was. "No intrauterine gestation sac."

The midwife was compassionate and trying to help but from the moment I knew what was happening, I just wanted to get the fuck out of there so I could go cry in my car. She kept me there to explain everything from the ultrasound, talk through next steps to try again, etc. I didn't want to hear it. I got halfway out the door and then she brought me back in for a Rhogam shot. That took another 30 minutes. It was clear everyone who came into contact with me was informed of my loss. I know they were trying to be nice but I was just trying to not burst into tears.

I finally got home and saw another note in my chart asking me to get a blood draw to measure my HCG levels. I don't understand the purpose. I'm no longer pregnant and I don't want to try again any time soon. I just want to be left alone.

Throughout all of this, I'm sti

Hey all,

I have an appointment with my doctor next week to follow-up on my current miscarriage and could use some pointers.

A bit of my history, I'm currently 33 years old. No live birth. No medical problems except I'm overweight (bmi 30.5). I was on orthotricyclen for about 15 years and stopped taking it in September of 2019. We tried for over a year with no luck. Then in September 2020 I found I was pregnant while also having COVID. I miscarried around 5.5 weeks. Late November 2020 I had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy at exactly six weeks, resulting in losing my left tube. In mid April of 2021 I experienced another miscarriage at around six weeks. Finally, fast forward to now where I'm currently having another miscarriage at six weeks.

Every one of my miscarriages, I've had low hcg levels. My progesterone, when tested has also been quite low. The only time my Hcg numbers were high is when I had my ectopic. I didn't have any serial hcg with this current miscarriage until my doctor discovered no gestational sac intrauterine and extrauterine, so to rule out ectopic, he ordered them. I'm definitely miscarrying as my hcg numbers very low (33 on Wednesday, 9 yesterday) and I'm bleeding a lot.

These are some topics I plan on discussing with him:

• low progesterone (possibly supplementation)
• more uterine scans (he said my ovaries and uterus looked normal on Wednesday)
• hsg test for remaining tube
• check thyroid levels (had this done once before and it was normal)
• get tested to rule out APLA syndrome
• genetic testing for myself and the husband
• sperm analysis

Am I missing anything obvious? I'm quite overwhelmed and have to be the best advocate for myself as they have given me the run around.

I really appreciate you reading this and any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated 💜💜💜

Hi all,

I am on my 3rd pregnancy (none successful yet). Due to history of ectopic pregnancy I have been tracking betas and schedule early US as soon as I got over 1000.

Betas have looked good and don’t indicate any issues: 10 DPO 27 13 DPO 145 17 DPO 985 21 DPO 6250 (scheduled US about a day and a half later early morning 23 DPO).

I went to my US with dating based on LMP showing I was about 6 weeks however I knew based on ovulate tracking I was 5 wk 3 days. The tec ugh told me looked like I was dating 5+3 (good, as expected).

I was soooo excited just to see the gestational sac in my uterus that my mind honestly blanked. I didn’t ask any questions or think at all. She said I probably didn’t need to see the dr.

They told me I didn’t need to come back for 3 wks (at 8+3). I accepted this bc I was so relieved about finally getting some good news.

After I left I realized there was no fetal pole (somewhat normal maybe?) but also that there wasn’t a yolk sac… my HCG is likely near 10,000 based on doubling… is this possible/ normal? Shouldn’t I have seen something??

I didn’t even get to talk to a dr at my visit- only the technician.

I see online that typically you can see yolk sac AND fetal pole around 10k HCG… advice? Thoughts?

I am very worried and now I can’t imagine waiting 3 weeks. Sigh

Thanks all.

I’m 6w2d had an early scan yesterday due to two losses this year. 6w loss in Feb and a chemical in April. At the scan yesterday they used a crappy bedside one and was a vaginal scan. They claim they saw a yolk sack, what they thought was a fetal pole and gestational sack and said ectopic was no longer a worry, but that I had to come in next week for a viability scan since the sack was so small. We were cautiously optimistic and thought since it was the crappy machine everything will be clearer Friday. They suggested to have my Hcg drawn again for peace of mind while I waited. Usually they do blood in office but that day I had to use an office down the street. Well my hcg came back not even doubled in 7 days. It went from quadruple at the beginning to slowing to 48 hours to now not doubling in 7 days. I know loss is going to happen and I’m thankful not ectopic but this was our last try to add a third baby to the family and it sucks. We conceived our first two on the first try and had zero issues. Now it’s been a year with three losses under my belt and we can’t seem to figure out why. I’ve stopped my progesterone to see if that’s what was holding back the bleeding from starting. It also makes sense that I’ve basically had zero symptoms this whole time too.

12dpo-9 14 dpo-27 19dpo-555 22dpo-2167 29dpo-3999

Hi all! I am asking this question because I’m curious – I had an early pregnancy loss at six weeks recently. Because they were worried about ectopic, I had an ultrasound at 5w5d. They saw what they believe to be the empty gestational sac. My doctor said this was not a chemical because it was detected on ultrasound. But I’m wondering what you folks think? What’s the difference between a chemical and a loss at six weeks, other than being detected on a scan? My hcg never went higher than 78.

I had an ultrasound today at 5w2d to check for a possible ectopic. The docs were concerned because my beta doubling rate has slowed (256 at 14dpo, 611 at 16dpo, 2534 at 22dpo, 3479 at 23dpo). We did see an intrauterine gestational sac measuring 6.4 mm and a yolk sac measuring 1.4mm. The docs remain only cautiously optimistic, but I'm trying to figure out what the real concern is. Is it the change in beta doubling? Is the yolk sac too small? Anyone know what a yolk sac should be at 5w2d? Trying not to have too much false hope here. Thanks!

So this whole experience has been a nightmare. I was thrilled to get a BFP on 11/24, first day of LMP was 10/21. I started spotting on 11/26 and panicked, went to the ER and was told inevitable miscarriage hcg was 1073. Then follow up doctors visit on 12/2 hcg was 1661, I was told it was a threatened miscarriage but since hcg was rising there’s hope. 12/6 hcg 2499, 12/10 hcg 3495. The doctor said he couldn’t tell me what was happening since hcg was rising but not doubling until ultrasound. Went this past Friday 12/17 and the tech told me my doctor would call with results, I called the office Monday morning and he’s left the practice and they don’t have a doctor so won’t be able to tell me what they see until they find a new one and that I should find a new provider, I’ve got an appointment with a new doctor in a different practice on 12/29 but they won’t read the ultrasound until they can see me. I got the result in my chart from ultrasound (said no intrauterine gestation found and a sub centimeter cyst on left ovary). Called screaming and crying to the doctors office because I knew that couldn’t mean anything good and was finally advised to go to the ER for possible ectopic pregnancy. They found the baby in my left tube and I was rushed into surgery to remove the tube and pregnancy. I’m in so much pain both physically and emotionally. Terrified I’ll never get pregnant again (it was already a miracle for me to get pregnant in the first place) and scared if and when I do get pregnant again it’ll turn out badly like this one has. I miss the baby I was dreaming and praying for already. I hate being in this club and I’m so sorry all of you reading are to. Does it ever get easier?

I'm an ex member of the OTO, Ordo Templi Orientis, a cult/order/secret society which used to be strongly tied to Freemasonry but separated after it became a Thelemic organization led by Aleister Crowley. I used to be really into Crowley and was going through a strange time in my life so I sought out the OTO and was initiated almost a decade ago. I was an initiate for several years but left after a series of events beginning with me discovering some extremely concerning documents showing that within the later degrees of the initiatory system there were signs of abuse of a kind I can't put into less crass terms than experimentation on pregnant women and their foetuses. I also left because the Order was becoming increasingly political with two distinct sides fighting for control, one of which being the far right.

The majority of what I found truly disturbing came from a book published in 1973 called The Secret Rituals of the OTO by Francis King. King got into a lot of trouble for writing that book but at the time of publishing the OTO had become defunct and would no longer operate. He wrote it to make sure history would remember that which no longer existed but the OTO managed to survive through its near collapse and tried to silence him and the book. By silence him I mean legally and through strongly worded messages, not anything more sinister. I can confirm from my own initiations that the book is accurate although the passwords for each degree have changed. What terrified me was the 8th, 9th and 10th degree material though. I knew going into the Order that the later degrees and "secrets" had to do with sex but I always thought it was about sexual energy and other newagey stuff not well... here are some quotes:

"Thus, supposing that the re-incarnating Ego enters the foetus at the third month of gestation, it would not serve to remove such foetus from the mother, and cause it to live; for it is already human. But a foetus of two months might become homunculus."

"The classical method of making the homunculus is to take the fertilized ova of a woman and to reproduce as closely as may be, without the uterus, the normal conditions of gestation therein."

"For: in the case of ectopic gestation, it is clearly possible for the ovum to develop for a considerable period; and a child of 4½ months weighing nine ounces, has been known to live for over an hour after delivery. These considerations encourage us. Life is indefinitely adaptable, and life originally appea