Copyists errors in the Quran

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A Copyist Error In Our Bibles That Has Yet To Be Corrected To This Day

I wanna show you something really interesting about the Hebrew language and how it can lead to misunderstandings in Scripture.

Take a look at the Hebrew letter RESH:

ר

Next, take a look at the Hebrew letter DALET:

ד

Pretty darn similar to each other, aren’t they?

In fact one would think that if handwritten, it would be pretty easy to mix up one with the other.

For example, take a look at these 2 words in Hebrew using these exact 2 letters:

אֲרָם‎

And…

אֱדוֹם‎

The first word is Aram which is the name of a location.

And the second word is Edom which is also the name of a location.

I’m sure you remember the race of people called the Edomites in the Bible, right?

Edom also means the color “red”, but that’s incidental to our conversation here.

So getting back to my point, both of these words referring to 2 different place locations look pretty darn similar, right?

Okay, so let me explain why I’m bringing this us.

Take a look at Judges 3:8.

“Therefore the anger of Adonai blazed against Israel, and he gave them over into the hands of Kushan-Rish‘atayim king of Aram-Naharayim*; and the people of Isra’el served Kushan-Rish‘atayim eight years.”*-Judges 3:8

We’re told a ruler by the name of Kushan-Rish’atayim came down with his army and conquered certain parts of Israel.

Kushan refers to the land of Cush which is ancient Ethiopia.

So this dude was a black man.

Recall also that Cush was the oldest son of Ham, a grandson of Noah and was the brother of the accursed Canaan.

And Cush was also the father of Nimrod.

Yes, that Nimrod who was considered to be the first heroic warrior on earth.

Most scholars believe Kushan came from an area near the Euphrates River.

Of course, we don’t know his real foreign name.

Kushan-Rish’atayim was just a nickname the Israelites gave him that translated into something like the “doubly devilish dude from Cush”.

This makes sense because that’s how the Israelites tribes subjugated by him would have viewed this warrior.

Okay, here’s the thing.

We’re told this doubly devilish dude conquered the southern tribal regions of Israel.

Yet, we’re told in verse 8 that he hailed from Aram-Naharayim.

But Aram is located way up to the north.

So what we’re being told here is that Kushan was a northerner who traveled a huge distance to attack the Israelite tribes located way down in the south.

That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

Keep in mind when studying history, it’s important to ferret ou

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Eliza Thornberry, an impoverished copyist next door, wrote about the wild pig orgy with scathing contempt.

Disgusting porn eight boars describe discussed in poor neighbor’s diss scribe.

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An Ancient Copyist Error That Remains UNCORRECTED To This Very Day

Everybody knows the Bible is God’s Word (understand I’m ONLY referring to the “Old” Testament here).

Therefore, some idiots will conclude there are literally ZERO mistakes in the Scriptures.

Well, today I’m going to put that misconception to death…hopefully for all time.

Let’s take a look at the following 2 verses and pay especially close attention to the 2 words I have bolded, underlined and colored in red.

“…and they buried him near the boundary of his property in Timnat-Heres*, in the hills of Efrayim, north of Mount Ga‘ash.”*-Judges 2:9

And then we have this one…

“According to Adonai’s order they gave him the city he had asked for, Timnat-Serach in the hills of Efrayim; so he built up the city and lived in it.”-Joshua 19:50

The name of Joshua TIMNAT-HERES is referring to Joshua’s personal territory that he inherited..

However, in the Book of Judges we’re told the name is TIMNAT-SERACH.

It appears to be two different names but they’re not.

So is this is an ancient copyist error?

You bet your booty boondocks it is homies.

And don’t tell me this is a minor issue.

It’s the difference between saying Jack the Ripper and Jack the Stripper.

Two totally different words referring to two different professions.

If the location name was properly translated into English, it would be TIMNAH-CHERES with a “ch” instead of an “h”.

Because of the spelling mistake this copyist made, this falsehood has been promoted throughout the centuries with every Tom, Dick and Harry Bible teacher trying to come up with some creative new spin on what the word really means.

It’s kind of like how everyone mistakenly thinks the Shaddai in EL SHADDAI means “Almighty” (it doesn’t.  It means “mountain”).

Look, it’s pretty easy to see what happened.

The letters SAMECH-REYSH-CHET were reversed to CHET-REYSH-SAMECH.

Why this happened is anyone’s guess.

Maybe the copyist had a little too much wine to drink the night before.

And let’s not forget the original Hebrew didn’t have any vowels, so folks had to make educated guesses about how to exactly say the Hebrew words out loud.

So here’s the big takeaway folks.

These kinds of copyist mistakes were NOT a rare occurrence.

They occurred all the freakin’ time.

Remember, copy machines and Microsoft word didn’t exist during the Biblical era.

Every ancient Biblical manuscript had to be written out word-for-word, letter-for-letter.

However, for the most part, simple mistakes were pretty

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The fact that God allowed translation and copyist errors on the Bible proves that he did a terrible job in trying to convey his message.
  • Second Kings 24:8 declares, “Jehoiachin was 18 years old when he began to reign,” while 2 Chronicles 36:9 says, “Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign.
  • How could Ahaziah be both 22 years old and 42 years old when he started to reign?
  • Who killed Goliath?
  • Between II Samuel and I Chronicles, the number of horsemen David takes changes tenfold.
  • From II Chronicles to I Kings, Solomon experiences a tenfold increase in stalls.
  • How many animals were there on the ark? Genesis 6:19-20: 2 of each animal [clean or unclean] into the ark. 2 of each kind of bird. Genesis 7:2-3: Actually, make that 7 of each clean animal into the ark, 7 of each kind of bird, and 2 of each unclean animal.
  • https://web.archive.org/web/20040903215521/http://www.freethought.mbdojo.com/familycensus.html

As you guys see, all of those are minor discrepancies, they aren't actually important to draw any theological meaning. BUT BUT, this is supposedly the inerrant and infallible Word of God, so any errors of any kind are unacceptable.

Christians know that and agree, and since it's hard to argue against numbers, they argue that those are mere copyist errors, which is something impossible for us to verify since we don't have the original documents anymore, but fine, even Christians agree that the modern Bibles are not infallible.

There's also the translation issues, I saw this one being used in an attempt to answer the "Did Moses see God?" question, one verse claims he did, another one claimed nobody saw God, which means that we have to look at the original words at the proper context of the passages.

And when you see these discrepancies in the Bible, even if minor, you start questioning what else there might be a "copyist error" or "translation error", and really, sometimes a single verse can make THE WHOLE difference, John 14:6 for example. What if THAT ONE is a copyist error?

Which comes to my point: Why would God allow that? Isn't this counter-productive to Christianity? Why make so damn hard for us to un

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Sundargarh District Court Recruitment 2021 - Clerk, Stenographer 30 Posts Sundargarh District Court (SDC) has officially released an advertisement for recruitment for the post of Copyist, Stenographer, Typist vacancy. Candid... highonstudy.com/sundargar…
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This 15th century manuscript's right page features an angry note from a copyist monk : "Damned be the cat who took a piss on this book. Don't leave books open at night when there are cats." (Cologne, Historisches Archiv, G.B. quarto, 249, fol. 68r)
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Copyist's mistake, surely.
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Newbie music copyist looking for work!

Hi there!

I'm a Music Education major who just graduated with a Bachelor's of Music who's also interested in (and in general passionate about) music notation/engraving. I've done a lot of work creating sheet music since middle school with my primary tool nowadays being Dorico Pro 3.5. I haven't done much work for other musicians, but I've done a decent amount of engraving with Dorico for college assignments, giving me some worthwhile experience!

Here are a few samples of my work:
https://imgur.com/a/JsqGqwZ
https://imgur.com/a/k28nxom
https://imgur.com/a/u67xo1K
https://imgur.com/a/Y8QiznY
https://imgur.com/a/ILWCdZI

Happy to consult on any project; price depends on scope/length of project. Looking forward to working with you!!

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Lintel, Pyramid Temple of Amenemhat I, Middle Kingdom, Unknown Copyist
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TIL During the 16th century, Josquin des Prez acquired the reputation as the greatest composer of the age and was the most famous European composer between Guillaume Dufay and Palestrina. He was so admired that many anonymous compositions were attributed to him by copyists courses.lumenlearning.com…
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Offering Bearer, Pyramid Temple of Senwosret I, Middle Kingdom, Unknown Copyist
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I recorded an hour of me doing some copyist work

I’m the kind of guy that actually watches things like Adam Neely’s "10 minutes of writing music in Sibelius 6.” I think it’s cool to watch musicians work and speak candidly about their tools/workflow. I was copying some stuff for fun on the weekend (because i’m a v cool guy) and recorded the process in case there are other copyist nerds out there.

The piece in question is a little piano study by Florence Price. It’s actually really charming and I think it’d be great for younger players. This piece does have some questionable (or at least dated) notation choices, which is why I wanted to clean it up.

DC al Segno (instead of “al coda”). Also note the Coda section isn’t separated from the preceding system and doesn’t have a clef change. “16va” instead of “15ma”. The “To Coda last time” that made me assume I missed some sort of “repeat 3x then DC al Coda”. A single 8va line on a grand staff where there should really be 2 lines (one for each staff). And some minor things like “cres - cen - do” that just rub me the wrong way.

Anyway it was a fun learning experience for me and hopefully there are some takeaways for a few of you. Feedback is always appreciated, especially from any pianists out there.

https://youtu.be/q7CRjdpYNTc

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Amateur transcriber/copyist looking to get better and find some work!

Greetings everyone,

I am currently a DMA student studying Jazz and Contemporary Media at the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, New York. I also have a degree in percussion and have written/arranged for a wide variety of classical instruments. I have quite a bit of experience transcribing and I have been practicing my copy/engraving skills for the last few years. I have taken several engraving classes for contemporary music as well as music from the previous couple centuries. Despite this, I would still classify myself as a novice as I have only done engraving for other people a handful of times; most of my work is just personal scores and pieces.

I use Dorico, and have developed a nice workflow within the software. I have composed and arranged things like simple jazz lead sheets, many jazz combo tunes, full jazz big band pieces (originals and arrangements), contemporary percussion solos, percussion ensemble pieces, string trios, flute duos, etc.

I can provide specific examples of my work upon request, but I wanted to throw this post out there for anyone to give me advice on where to look to start getting better at all this and getting some work as a transcriber/copyist/engraver. Feel free to comment anything and everything, thanks!

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New OC! Samantha is a human, but she is also a copyist, she can copy the features/powers of other species. Tell me what you think! v.redd.it/zb94tc397s261
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I'm a music copyist/engraver looking for work! Happy to discuss anything sheet music related!
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What was the view of copyists in the Ancient Mediterranean modifying the documents they copied?

For example, if a scribe was copying an important document was it expected or assumed that they would add to/redact, annotate, or otherwise make modifications to the original? How was this viewed by clients, authors, and scribes? Was there a strong sense of respect for "authorial intent" in the Ancient world?

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I recorded an hour of me doing some copyist work /r/musictheory/comments/g…
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Manuscript #3, Respighi's Pines of Rome. It may look like a copyist's handwriting, but it is indeed a holograph manuscript.
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I recorded an hour of me doing some copyist work (in Dorico, obvs) /r/musictheory/comments/g…
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Unusual harp notation (or just a copyist's error?)

Hello all!

I came across this notation in the harp part of a handwritten conductor score. I'm puzzled on how to interpret the note/circle below the quarter note. While it looks like a whole-note the measure is in 3/4 time so that doesn't fit.

Anyone here to clarify this? Thank you!

https://preview.redd.it/rv4rxcnls6l31.png?width=526&format=png&auto=webp&s=47ce557594ea6ca098bf5f15d001ee44a061b1f5

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Cockroachdb/copyist: Mocking an SQL database in Go tests github.com/cockroachdb/co…
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Homage/Copyists/Inspiration/Eclecticism/Tribute - whatever you want to call it...

...part of the appeal of this band (for me) is the little nods and similarities to songs by other artists. From Scritti Politti to Joy Division, Bon Iver to Tears For Fears, D'Angelo to Talking Heads.

Loads have been mentioned on here on different threads but just wondered what songs remind people of others or what they hear. Not saying they are identical, or rip-offs, sometimes it's just the vibe, or certain musical elements or similar chords but here's a few that I hear. And I love all of them...

A Change of Heart - Crazy For You by Madonna

Robbers - With or Without You by U2

Paris - Only You by Yazoo

If I Believe You - Insatiable by Prince

I Always Wanna Die (Sometimes) - Champagne Supernova by Oasis

What are your examples...?

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Any copyists floating around here?

As many of you are, I'm a composer. As maybe not so many of you, I'm kind of lazy when it comes to editing my scores, and I'm also kind of bad at it. I've got much less of an eye for detail than I imagine.

Is anyone around here interested in the hustle and bustle of the booming industry of music copying? I understand that the practice has changed quite a bit and perhaps even fallen out of favor since music notation software came around, but there must be some around the internet somewhere. It is not a process I enjoy or have developed much aptitude in, and would be interested in working with one.

And yeah, any of you that have been paying attention to my chromatic spellings post will know why I want one xD

Edit: Great to see some response! I wasn't sure my stab in the dark would gain any attention, yet here we are. I'm going to be messaging a few of you for sure.

>And to other composers and composition students, get in touch with these guys! A clean, professional looking score and set of parts can very easily make the difference between a reading and a performance!

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Tiny Furniture's "Scriptorium Copyist Desk"
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I recorded an hour of me doing some copyist work /r/musictheory/comments/g…
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Now this is a pretty manuscript. (Chopin's Polish Songs, Op.74, manuscript written by copyist Juliana Fontany, 1843)
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Amateur transcriber/copyist looking to get better and find some work!

I am currently a DMA student studying Jazz and Contemporary Media at the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, New York. I also have a degree in percussion and have written/arranged for a wide variety of classical instruments. I have quite a bit of experience transcribing and I have been practicing my copy/engraving skills for the last few years. I have taken several engraving classes for contemporary music as well as music from the previous couple centuries. Despite this, I would still classify myself as a novice as I have only done engraving for other people a handful of times; most of my work is just personal scores and pieces.

I use Dorico, and have developed a nice workflow within the software. I have composed and arranged things like simple jazz lead sheets, many jazz combo tunes, full jazz big band pieces (originals and arrangements), contemporary percussion solos, percussion ensemble pieces, string trios, flute duos, etc.

I can provide specific examples of my work upon request, but I wanted to throw this post out there for anyone to give me advice on where to look to start getting better at all this and getting some work as a transcriber/copyist/engraver. Feel free to comment anything and everything, thanks!

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Amateur transcriber/copyist looking to get better and find some work!

Greetings everyone,

I am currently a DMA student studying Jazz and Contemporary Media at the Eastman School of Music in Rochester, New York. I also have a degree in percussion and have written/arranged for a wide variety of classical instruments. I have quite a bit of experience transcribing and I have been practicing my copy/engraving skills for the last few years. I have taken several engraving classes for contemporary music as well as music from the previous couple centuries. Despite this, I would still classify myself as a novice as I have only done engraving for other people a handful of times; most of my work is just personal scores and pieces.

I use Dorico, and have developed a nice workflow within the software. I have composed and arranged things like simple jazz lead sheets, many jazz combo tunes, full jazz big band pieces (originals and arrangements), contemporary percussion solos, percussion ensemble pieces, string trios, flute duos, etc.

I can provide specific examples of my work upon request, but I wanted to throw this post out there for anyone to give me advice on where to look to start getting better at all this and getting some work as a transcriber/copyist/engraver. Feel free to comment anything and everything, thanks!

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