Berber Languages Puns

Since there is no Berber mod and they aren’t on google translate I would be able to comment freely!

Hi, searching info on Afro-Asiatic languages is so hard. Most info seems to go into Semitic languages, but there's very little on Berber and Chadic for example. So I wanna ask what do we know about the early spread of this language family into North Africa, and the development of early Berber and Chadic languages? For the little I've read, the Capsian culture seeems to be a good candidate for Proto-proto berber or some distant ancestor, as well as that Ibero-Maurusian ancestry is present among imazighen and chadics. However little more I found.

So what do we know? How old did Afroasiatic languages spread into the Maghreb, and when did they come into the Sahel giving birth to Chadic? What genetic component could be associated with this early berbers and chadics? And how related are they? And where would their urheimats more likely be?

I'm from Tunisia and unfortunately there aren't enough resources for learning berber language, is there any way I can learn it , also is there a standard language I can learn , or is there any other dialect I can learn instead .

I just showed my mother who is a speaker of the riffian language the souss, tuareg & Kabyle languages but she couldn´t understand much (only some words here and there) So my question is which berber language is the closest to riffian?

this is because they wanted to be easier to understand but became to difrent from british english

For example, could an Amazigh someone from Morroco understand someone from Algeria, how about the Taurag who live in places like Mali, Southern Algeria, and Niger?

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Hi, do you know of any website or book that contain information about different berber languages, mainly about vocabulary?

Here is relevant data from Orel & Stolbova's reconstruction of PAA. The World Loanword Database considers it "perhaps borrowed" from Arabic.

The Zenaga cognate, ešǝm, looks mildly different from the other Berber languages; However, I'm not sure what sound changes Zenaga went through, so I can't make a call. If it is a loanword from Arabic, I'm surprised by the fact no Berber language retains the Berber lemma it replaced.

Thoughts?

I am wondering what the people of this subreddit think is a good dialect to start with. Are they all mutually intelligible? I know that Tuareg Tamashek is sometimes referred to as a separate language.

This question was bugging me for some time and I thought this would be the kinda perfect place to put it. All I know about Berber is that it's the language of the indigenous people of North Africa and that it has different dialects such as Kbayli, Tarifiyt, Tachelhit, and Tamazight being the standard most common one, which is also recognised as an official language in both Algeria and Morocco.

hello!

i would like to learn the berber language specifically like the one in tizi ( im not sure how to call it ) .

Specifically the darija version of berber if that makes sense, if not ill try to explain :

So you know how in algeria we have "fos7a" and "darija" ? ive been told that in the berber language its the same, so it has a "fos7a" version and a "darija" version, i want to learn the "darija" version, so basically the one that people use with eachother oustside of schools .

can anyone please help me learn it or guide me towards a site or method to learn it ?

I've been interested in the Berber / Amazigh language of North Africa for a long time. It's got a very distinct melody to it (especially the Kabyle dialect) and it's got a very long and interesting history. (Hannibal, the biggest enemy of the Roman Empire probably spoke some form of Amazigh.. And you can find ancient Tifinagh engravings all around the Sahara dessert dating from 2500 years ago)

Yet Berber languages are mostly unknown in the world and not studied by many. In fact there doesn't really exist any language learning materials apart from a phrasebook here and there or a dictionary from another century.

I've long had a plan of having some simple dialogues translated and recorded in order to study the language, and when I recently fell upon an offer (on fiverr!!) I decided to go ahead and have some small stories translated into Kabyle.

I'm going to use them to study Kabyle myself, but I'm hoping other people might find them useful as well.

The dialogues are written in both the tifinagh script (which is fascinating, and easy to learn) and an adapted form of the Latin script (which is admittedly probably more common in North Africa today).

The 5 mini stories can be found here: https://www.autolingual.com/kabyle-dialogues-audio/

Hope some of you will find it useful!

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Are there other examples of people before William Jones correctly believing that certain languages come from a common origin? Ancient Greek, Roman, Chinese etc works certainly noted similarities between barbarian languages, but I think that falls a bit short, since they seem to have perceived it as being regional dialects without realizing how much language can change..

i read the history about vandal kingdom ruled in north Africa in ancient times i just want to know do the Berber languages and variety Arabic languages spoken in north Africa have loanwords from east Germanic origin like for example vandalic language?

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i'm interest of foreign language i just want to know which languages belong to Afro-Asiatic language family that focus on consonant clusters beside Berber or Amazigh language and Moroccan Arabic language?

If you were a teenager growing up in Seville in 800, were you likely a Muslim? Did you speak Mozarabic, loyal to the Emir in Córdoba? Did you follow the call to prayer? Would you be part of the broader Muslim world as a random person in the city?

Or... Would you have been likely speaking vulgar Latin, practicing Christianity at home, cursing your Moorish rulers, and being more woven into the European fabric?

Is there any way to learn berber language here in Tunisia, and if not should I learn another form of berber and which one should I learn