How did Islamic and Western calligraphy influence each other?

Calligraphy is a prominent form of both art and communication. The Islamic and Western worlds both have their own calligraphic traditions, and those worlds have been in frequent contact for a long time. How did these forms of calligraphy influence each other, if at all?

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[ACCEPTED] LAAYOUNE, WESTERN SAHARA. Arabic calligraphy
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Page from the Book of Kells, a collection of the four Gospels, c.800 AD. It was created in either Britain or Ireland by monks in a Columban monastery, and is one of the finest examples of Western calligraphy. [375 x 500]
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Somehow we decided Chinese calligraphy is beautiful, but Western text like "Live, laugh, Love," is tacky.
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Is an Asian male getting "MEMENTO MORI" and "MEMENTO VIVERE" tatted across his chest equivalent to a Western male or Caucasian male getting Chinese calligraphy or tribal tatts?

I'm thinking of getting a heart skull tatted on the centre of my chest with the phrase MEMENTO MORI tatted backwards or mirrored on my left chest and the same for MEMENTO VIVERE on my right chest. I'd like to use it as a reminder to myself every morning and night that I'm mortal and my life here on Earth is limited and so I should live a more fulfilling, meaningful life according to my beliefs, ethics, pain, pleasure and passions.

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The art of calligraphy (western tradition). High-res compilation. imgur.com/a/Zz71cNn
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What's the best app to learn Western calligraphy on the iPad?

I am assuming the use of the iPencil, but if there's a better alternative for learning calligraphy please let me know.

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Why didn't western calligraphy ever go the way of Arabic calligraphy?

What I mean by this is that in Arabic calligraphy, you have these huge complex masterpieces, whereas western calligraphy seems... I don't know, just less pure art and more text with flourishes. For example, compare these two:

http://imgur.com/gallery/WLjdRjP

http://imgur.com/gallery/ULrlUQQ

I don't know, maybe it's just because of the fact that I can't read Arabic that I perceive this differently, but what do you guys think?

Edit: Formatting

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Books on the history of Western calligraphy

I’m wondering if anyone has recommendations for books about the history of Western and English calligraphy.

I know about ‘Histoire de la calligraphie française’ by Claude Mediavilla (which is huge) and ‘Medieval Calligraphy: Its History and Technique’ by Marc Drogin (which only focuses on the medieval time period).

I’m not looking for books that teach technique or a specific script. I’m thinking of books that cover script development and history. TIA!

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Ink sticks and stones for western calligraphy

I am highly impressed by the work some of you have done with Japanese and Chinese stick ink (I'm looking firmly, but not exclusively, at you, /u/GardenOfWelcomeLies). Great shading of grey hues! On rereading Edward Johnston's Writing, Lettering and Illumination I noticed that he fancies stick ink, too. So that was the last straw. Fortunately, there's a shop in a neighbouring town that sells Japanese and Chinese tea as well as oriental calligraphy supply. While the staff is very helpful and knowledgable, I doubt they have experience with western calligraphy.

Can you advise me on getting ink stick & stone for broad edge calligraphy?

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[intentional] Swan Calligraphy Triggers my ASMR! Western meets Asian girl. youtu.be/J_aN7ArRNyY
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I'm learning arabic calligraphy. Can anyone suggest an appropriate western script for subtitles?
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[r/ArtefactPorn] Page from the Book of Kells, a collection of the four Gospels, c.800 AD. It was created in either Britain or Ireland by monks in a Columban monastery, and is one of the finest examples of Western calligraphy. [375 x 500] reddit.com/r/ArtefactPorn…
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An emerging trend among young Chinese students, with some as young as four, is studying traditional Chinese culture, including Confucianism and Chinese calligraphy, instead of learning more Western activities en.yibada.com/articles/72…
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How many Western Calligraphy styles are there?

Guys, I am sorry if this question is strange, but i know a bit about Asian but nothing about western Calligraphy. In Asian Calligraphy there are style and I am wonder if Western Calligraphy has the same. I can find a lot of information about fonts, but that is not what i am look for. I want to know about written Western Calligraphy.

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Good Quality Stick Ink for Western Calligraphy??

I would appreciate suggestions about which ink stick to buy for italic and Copperplate calligraphy. I want ink that is very, very black, on the cool side (tending to the blue rather than brown), and that makes fine hairlines. I am hoping to find one for $30 or less. Do you have suggestions? It seems that most of the ink sticks I am finding on line are evaluated on the basis of what is good for brush calligraphy instead of what I am looking for. I bought a stick ink on Amazon from China and it is not black enough. Thanks!

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Western Calligraphy in the Movies stevehusting.com/calligra…
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Looking for examples of vertical calligraphy (eng or other western languages)

Im trying to put a poem into a vertical form, and having a LOT of trouble. If you have any examples of vertical script, yours or someone else's, I would love to see them for inspiration!

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After learning Western Calligraphy for two years, I wanted to shift my studies east, so I asked for an Arabic Calligraphy book for Christmas! imgur.com/a/b2OY9
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South East Asian calligraphy with Western pens

Would you guys agree that for a lot of Western calligraphy, the pen needs to be held at acute angles whereas to do South East Asian alphabets the pen should be held at an obtuse angle? I have only been experimenting with a Pilot Parallel at this point but it seems to make a difference.

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Nian Sibling Guesses

Well then. Before continuing, here's the four well known arts. 琴棋書畫 - Qin Qi Shu Hua.

Four Arts: 四藝

  • Guqin (Chinese Intrument) (琴)
  • Weiqi (棋)
  • Calligraphy (書)
  • Painting (畫)

Then there's the Six Arts popularized during the Zhou Dynasty. Not gonna lie, never heard of these six before.

Six Arts: 六藝

  • Rites (禮)
  • Music (樂)
  • Archery (射)
  • Chariotry (御)
  • Calligraphy (書)
  • Mathematics (數)

Onward to the guesses!

---Confirmed---

Nian: Metallurgy

>History of Metallurgy in China:
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>For peeps confused about why blacksmithing are alongside arts stuff. Well, in blacksmithing you're still creating things.
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>There's a popular myth/legend/historical person called Ou Yezi, who forged many legendary swords. And there's also the couple, Gan Jiang and Mo Ye, who also made mythological weapons.
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>Essentially legendary weapons & crafting are just a big part of Chinese pop culture, especially in the Xianxia & Wuxia genre.

Dusk: Painting

>Self-explanatory.

Ling: Poetry (Literature)

>Also self-explanatory.
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>But it's interesting to note that alcohol has a big connection with poetry in Chinese history. One of, if not the most famous Chinese poet, Li Bai, was basically an alcoholic. Many of his poems are about the joy of drinking wine.
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>There's also this saying which appears in historical drama & Wuxia story a bunch.
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>Pretty sure I'm not remember this correctly, but think it goes "Yin Jiu dui shi" 饮酒对诗. Which is basically when two bro just sip wines and challenge each others on creating Chinese couplets.
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>Tldr; Ling's probably based on Li Bai.

No. 4: Culinary (Unamed Brother)

>Believe that Nian mentioned this sibling in the story. And well, Culinary Arts is still arts.
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>Class:
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>Medic, or Healing Defender like Gummy.

---Guesses---

No. 5: Games (棋, Chess, Go, Etc)

>Taken from the "Qi" bit of the Four Arts.
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>Class:
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>Maybe Summoner Supporter as that just fits the idea of someone playing Weiqi. But as Ling's alre

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An attempt to list all of the unseen siblings in Fire Emblem

There a many notable siblings in Fire Emblem: From the various Pegasus sisters to the Renais twins to the royal siblings of Nohr and Hoshido. But sometimes a character will have a sibling who is only mentioned, but not actually seen in game.

Today I will attempt to list every unseen sibling (of characters that we do get to see in some form). The list that I have so far may not necessarily be complete, so if you notice that I forgot someone, lack important information or flat out wrote something incorrect please inform me, so that I can edit the list accordingly.

With this out of the way, here is the list of all the characters with useen siblings in Fire Emblem (that I know of):

Anri Marcelus

Marcelus is Anri's younger brother who became the second King of Altea. Marth and Elice are technically Marcelus' descendants.

Castor Leen & 7 more Siblings

Castor has eight younger siblings who live with their mother. Since their father has gone missing and their mother fell ill after the birth of her ninth child. Castor needs money to take care of his family. Castor once promised one of his sisters named Leen that he would buy her clothes as a present, but by the time he brought said clothes she was gone. Leen has sold herself to slave merchants to earn money for their family. Castor eventually finds her dying body in a bar in Warren.

Caesar 1 Sister

Caesar's younger sister is sick and the main reason why he works as a mercenary is to earn money so that he can pay for the medicine his sister needs. Radd supports his friend's efforts to save his sister and if Caesar dies Radd will try to save her in his stead.

Luke 1 Brother

Luke has an older brother, who fell sick right before he would become a knight. Since their family has served in the Altean knights for generations, Luke was forced to become a knight in his brother's place, to protect the family's honor.

Roderick Multiple Sisters

Roderick comes from a poor family and when his mother died he had to take care of his younger sisters by doing all the cooking and sewing himself.

Celica & Conrad Multiple Siblings

Celica's and Conrad's father, King Lima, had many children with many concubines. All of them except for Celica and Conrad have been killed by Desaix's coup.

Gray 1 Sister

Gray has a sister who stays in Ram. According to Gray she loves to always get the last word in.

Tobin Multiple Siblings

Tobin's siblings still live in Ram

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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French fries weren’t cooked in France.

They were cooked in Greece.

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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You've been hit by
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"...calligraphy in many ways was the only form of art that [Islamic] artists could express themselves in so they got very creative. Whereas westerners had many mediums of art to explore throughout history and even now." reddit.com/r/Calligraphy/…
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I'm sick of you guys posting dumb wordplay in here for awards and upvotes.

Don't you know a good pun is its own reword?

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

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Craft-Loving Pagan Seeking Penpal

Hello all!

My name is Marigold. I am 29/F living in Western Kentucky and I am hoping to find someone I can exchange hand written letters with. I am an avid calligraphy nut, but if my letters become too long I have to type them lol.

I enjoy Game of Thrones, World of Warcraft, floral arranging, writing fantasy novels, burning candles, bonfires, gardening and sitting with my husband in our rocking chairs on the porch at sunset.

I am some kind of pagan, still figuring it out. When I am not writing stories or feeding chickens on the homestead I am probably dying my hair or baking pies. Wanna know how to make your own blueberry jam? I've got a killer recipe haha.

I seem to always be bouncing from craft to craft. One day it is spinning my own yarn, the next I am making paper and binding books. I'm never still.

I am left leaning and everyone in my family is LGBTQ. I don't mind if you aren't any of those things, but please be kind.

If you are interested, please let me know!

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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Why did Karen press Ctrl+Shift+Delete?

Because she wanted to see the task manager.

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The Battle of Talas 751 AD

First of all sorry if on occasions I make mistakes whether it is spelling or of a grammatical nature but English isn’t my first language. And I even get to have a double excuse considering that I’m French and we do have quite a reputation regarding our English learning capacity. So please consider that I’m merely honoring my cultural heritage.

The battle of Talas took place near Taraz on the modern border between Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan in 751 AD. The exact location is yet to be confirmed but the accounts of the events place it on the banks of the Talas River. It took place after a series of smaller engagements between the Umayyad (soon to be Abbassid) empire and the Tang empire, as the two major powers intervened in the local conflicts to gain or maintain control over the Silk Roads. The latest struggle being between the local kings of Tashkent and Ferghana, two local Silk Road towns. The latter won the siege of Tashkent with the support of Gao Xianzhi – a general of Gogureyo descent (a recently defeated Korean kingdom) serving the Tang dynasty – and his troops. The Tang general supposedly had the king beheaded for refusing to pay the tribute he owed the Chinese empire, which in turn caused the son of the king to call for the help of the Abbasid. There is another version where an abbasid general named Ziyad ibn Salih who was already present to help the Tashkent king in his war escaped the city when the besieging army broke in and went to Samarkand to gather an army and confront the Tang army. Meanwhile Gao Xianzhi recruited Karluk Turks in Fergana to bolster the ranks of his army.

The sources are fuzzy to say the least and it only gets worse when it comes to the actual battle itself but whichever story we choose to follow we end up with two armies facing each other near the Talas River.

When it comes to the numbers involved you end up with radically different versions ranging from 40 000 Arab soldiers supported by 20 000 Turks and contingents from the allied Tibetan empire according to the Arab records, to 200 000 soldiers in total forming the ranks of the Abbasid army according to some Chinese estimates. As for the Tang army, once again we are faced with wildly diverging numbers from 10 000 Tang soldiers flanked by 20 000 Karluk mercenaries for the Chinese sources, to a 100 000 to 150 000 soldiers strong Tang army according to the Arab sources.

The Chinese records also insists on the fact that the Tang forces marched a long distance to reach Tashke

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So 2 trees got arrested in the town I live...

Heard they've been doing some shady business.

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I was almost upset that my coffee tasted like dirt today

but then I remembered it was ground this morning.

Edit: Thank you guys for the awards, they're much nicer than the cardboard sleeve I've been using and reassures me that my jokes aren't stale

Edit 2: I have already been made aware that Men In Black 3 has told a version of this joke before. If the joke is not new to you, please enjoy any of the single origin puns in the comments

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What is the scariest tree?

BamBOO!

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

They’re on standbi

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How eggs-traordinary
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My ten-year-old daughter came up with this at dinner tonight: What do you get if put a copy of Macbeth on top of a dictionary?

A play on words.

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Frederic Malle Discovery Set for Her Review

I've seen some reviews for the men's version of the Discovery Set and thought I'd write a review for the women's version, too (though fragrance itself is really genderless). I also got 3 extra samples of other perfumes not included in the discovery set that I'll also review from the brand. It was shipped promptly when I bought it on the Frederic Malle website and I had no issues with it getting to me. It was also packaged securely with a ridiculous amount of tissue paper. The box of the discovery set itself is just cardboard and nothing fancy, but this was the smaller mL set and the larger discovery set might have nicer packaging. I just didn't want too large of sizes of all of these scents in case I didn't like any as I'm pretty picky lol. I haven't had too much experience reviewing perfumes here so any constructive feedback is appreciated and I tend to make a lot of mental connections when it comes to smells so you'll see a lot of comparisons to other perfumes I've smelled and worn as I try to explain the notes. Here we go!

Carnal Flower - The opening of this reminds me of a Creed perfume from their Royal Exclusives, either Pure White or White Flowers, I can't quite remember which one of them had the green almost grassy opening of Carnal Flower. From reviews, I had prepared myself for a white floral bomb à la Alien by Mugler and with a name like Carnal Flower I guess I really expected the white florals to be very indolic as well, but this perfume was actually quite tame. Not the strength of it, of course, no the projection of this guy was insane and a drop could probably scent an entire room that's how concentrated it feels! But really the eucalyptus note in this overpowered everything at first and this was a super fresh perfume on me for quite a while before the mid and base notes came out to play. In the end, this ended up being a really creamy and musky white floral and becomes almost coconut lotion-like in smell. A beautiful perfume, but not for me. 7/10

Eau de Magnolia - This was one of the scents recommended by the perfume quiz for me! I already knew those results were a little off for me (I wasn't recommended a single rose perfume and that's my favorite note!), but this one was actually really nice. It's a very fresh perfume that's also very green in its opening. It reminds me of spring although the floral notes in this are faint to me underneath the citrus, I haven't smelled Magnolia so I'm unsure how close this is to the plant itsel

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Geddit? No? Only me?
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My son, Luke, loves how I named our kids after Star Wars characters...

My daughter, Chewbecca, not so much.

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