If I have a word with an emphatic consonant in the middle, are all the vowels in that word pharyngealized? E. g. In the name ΩΨ·ΩΩΨ©, are the last and first vowels affected too?
Why are, according to https://phoible.org/parameters, pharyngealized [s^Κ l^Κ t^Κ z^Κ d^Κ ] far more common than [k^Κ b^Κ Γ°^Κ ] and particularly [p^Κ Κ^Κ q^Κ ]?
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In this game, you will pick 3 consonants on this chart that you want to eliminate, and 1 consonant that you want to stay. (and why you chose them)
The eliminated sounds will be based off of the most upvoted comment.
The sound that the top comment picks will win immunity for the next round.
The final 3 consonants will be the winners of this challenge. (I'll try my best to make this daily)
[β±±], [Κ], and [Κ] are now out and [z] wins immunity for this round!
Upvotes: 20
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And may the games begin!
It all started when I was about 7 years old, when I'd gotten my first strep infection. I finished the antibiotics, and got better. About a year later, at 8 years old, I had another strep throat infection only this time, after the course of antibiotics, I noticed a small red bump on my right hand. My parents thought nothing of it until the bump started getting bigger, causing lot's of pain in my hand. Maybe half a week to about a week later the pain was getting worse, and my hand was so swollen, it looked as if my hand had swallowed a tomato. I was sent to school anyway, only to be sent to the office complaining about the pain, where they called my dad to come pick me up, and from there he took me straight to the children's hospital, and at that point I was feeling so weak, sore, tired, and just low on energy. The Dr's looked at my hand, looked through my medical history, and told my parents that I had a cellulitis abscess, that was a complication caused by the previous strep infection. By that point, my hand had been so swollen, the rash was now spreading up my arm, and they had to quickly rush me into surgery to drain the abscess. Afterwards, they'd told me had I not gone to the hospital when I did, they probably would've had to amputate part of my arm, which was quite traumatic little 8 year old me.. once I recovered, everything was fine for another year. I kept getting frequent strep throat infections multiple times a year for years, and I should mention my tonsils were huge even when I wasn't sick, so with every infection came horrible pain. Finally after years of this, at 17 I was sent to an ENT dr, and he took one look in my throat and said "we need to get these damn things out of you", And 6 months later I finally had a tonsillectomy. During the post op follow up appointment, after my recovery, the ENT was checking my throat, and his eyes widened as he told me my f*****g tonsils were growing back, but that I likely wouldn't have to worry about it.. I then spent the next 4 years without having ANY strep throat infections, and felt so happy I didn't have to suffer anymore... Until yet again, I got another strep infection, though less painful than it had been in the past, then another, and another and another infection... I'm back to the same routine of getting multiple strep throat infections multiple times a year. This year in 2021 alone I've had 5 Srep throat infections. My GP referred me to an Infectious Diseases Specialist, and on the lite
... keep reading on reddit β‘Hi everyone and thanks for your help.
I've had a chronic sore throat for months. I've been to the doctor and they've said there's no infection. I've noticed that my neck is also quite stiff and I've found trigger points in various places.
I carried out some exercises for the longus colli one evening (as I had stiffness in the front of my neck) and found my sore throat felt worse the next day. I'm wondering if neck muscle trigger points can cause a sore throat and, if so, which muscles? I'd like to investigate physio/massage before proceeding with PPI inhibitors, laryngoscopy, etc.
Basically, when and where did it originate? When did it spread to different branches (Aramaic, Hebrew, Arabic, Berber)? As I understand the emphatics of Afro-Asiatic are reconstructed as ejectives. My impression is that a pharyngealized series isn't common worldwide so I'm guessing it originated once and spread (though correct me if I'm wrong).
Also, were (and are) the nonemphatic voiceless consonants aspirated? A voiced-aspirated-ejective split seems more plausible to me (as a nonlinguist) given that it exists in other languages like Sotho and given the transliteration of Hebrew and Arab words and names into the west (Matthew, Phineas, alchemy, &c).
In this game, you can vote for:
- 3 consonants for immunity and 1 consonant to go
- 2 consonants for immunity and 2 consonants to go
- 1 consonant for immunity and 3 consonants to go
- And you can (not must) revive an eliminated consonant but it uses an immunity spot
You must choose to follow one and only one of these formats.
The sounds that the top comment picks shall be granted elimination and immunity respectively.
The final 3 consonants will be the winners of this challenge. (I'll try my best to make this daily)
[q] has been revived and [Δ§], [Κ], and [Κ‘] have been eliminated for this round!
Upvotes: 5
Top Comment:
Eliminate the 3 pharyngeals, revive [q].
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And Round 9, begin!
So, I obviously donβt know too much about medical stuff, but my current experience got me thinking.
I have viral pharyngitis, and it makes sense that itβs affecting my throat, sinuses, and head in general. What I donβt understand is why it has also made me super nauseated, given me diarrhea, and has made me lose my appetite.
All Iβve eaten in the past two days is one can of chicken noodle soup and a small amount of a roast with potatoes and carrots. And I had to force those down and paid the price by dry heaving for a while afterwards. Liquids are also hard to consume without dealing with a ton of nausea. The only thing I can really drink is ginger ale, but I hate to be drinking so much soda, so Iβm limiting how much I drink as much as I can.
What processes are behind these symptoms in particular? As miserable as I feel, Iβm also curious about whatβs going on with my body.
As the title of this post has indicated, what is the most approximated sound for voiced pharyngeal approximant, known as the IPA symbol /Κ/?
Thanks!
I am beyond frustrated right now. My brother had a cough with rhinorrhea last week that subsided a couple days ago. Since then he has had pretty bad post-nasal drip with a sore throat. He had a telemed call with the NP from his PCP. Phone call lasted about 2 minutes but in that time he was diagnosed with strep pharyngitis... and prescribed azithromycin??? He's not allergic to penicillin.
What bothers me most is that even if they thought he had strep throat - which how can you diagnose over the phone - they gave him an antibiotic that is like 3rd line coverage??
edit: *after they lost the ejectives
Hello, I'm a fellow student of linguistics and I'm very interested in the phonology of different languages. But there are some phonemes that I find extremely hard to pronounce, these being the ejectives and the pharyngealized consonants. I can understand the difference in sound and I understand the concept behind such phonemes, but I cannot produce them. Could you help me with advice and exercises used to learn how produce them?
Hey! I'm studying for step 1, which I'll be taking on December 14th. I've been trying to remember the pharyngeal arches/clefts/pouches derivatives but I've been unable to answer any question about this topic. Do you have any trick or suggestion for me to learn and remember them?
The Phonology:
The phonology is very minimal (even than tokipona) so everyone can pronounce it (including those weird islanders who don't distinguish /t/ & /k/), the three vowels system for the sake of Jan Misali and the stupid conlangers who think Arabs can't learn /e/ & /o/ easily. It has lots of allophones such as the /w~v/ hoping the Dschermanns, the TΓΌrtchkays and the Russkies may take their precious time to learn my international clong (well, especially the Dschermanns, I just realised the others don't really matter). and voila the inventory:
| The Shitty Difficult Orthography | The IPA | English Samples to taste the phonemes |
|---|---|---|
| Aa | /a/ | doesn't exist |
| Ii | /i/ | as in "6 feets apart" |
| Uu | /u / | as in "Zoom" |
| Mm | /m/ | as in "Murika" |
| Nn | /n~Ε~Ι²~Ι³ / | as in "conlang" |
| Pp | /p~b~f/ | as in "puppy" |
| Kk, Tt | /k~t~q~Κ/ | as in "Murika" |
| Ll, Rr | /l~r~ΙΎ~ΙΉ~Κ/ | as in "Murika" |
| Ss, Hh | /s~Κ~ tΝ‘s ~Κ~x~h/ | as in "hmm.." or "tsk!" |
| Ee | /j~Κ~Κ/ | as in "I love you" |
| Vv | /w-Κ-v-Κ/ | as in "weed" |
The phonotactics are the boring japanesy style (C)V(N) just to be simple, I wanted to add gemination but I heard vegans aren't capable of lengthenning consonants, not sure tho since I'm not a dietician, so I didn't add them eventually.
As for long vowels, they're never used phonemically except in the word kaa /kaΛ/ meaning "gay" to make it different from ka /ka/ meaning "car".
You're probably asking now about stress! well.. nah, why would I make my language stressful? Aren't we already stressed enough!?
The Vocab & The Grandma:
Now here's the fun part, unlike Esperanto and many other auxlangs that make you spend at least a couple of weeks to master the basics and start making coherent sentences, all you need to know in order to learn this clong is to be able to speak English fluently first (facepalm) then you use the phonemic restrictions to make it sound tokipona-ish. Plus, verbs end in "-u", nouns & adjectives end in "-a" or "-n", everything else ends in "-i" while particles and pronouns have no specific ending. I'll give some examples:
I want to go to the cinema.
A vantu tu ku tu si sinima.
/a wanku ku ku ku si sinima/
He wanted to eat in that restaurant.
Hi vantuti tu itu in sati risuturan.
/si wankuki ku iku saki lisukulan/
It is very good but they didn't like it.
Iti isi viri kuta pati siei nu laku iti.
/iki isi wili kuka paki siji nu laku
... keep reading on reddit β‘Anybody have a good mnemonic to help remember this? I keep getting questions about this wrong...
Hi all! From my understanding, in proto Semitic, the "emphatic" consonants are believed to have been realized as ejective consonants. However, in Arabic and Hebrew, they changed into pharyngeal consonants. First of all, is this indeed the scholarly understanding of the topic? If so, does anyone know what phonetic articulatory or acoustic processes could have led to this sound change? Also, does anyone know of any other languages (preferably not Afroasiatic) in which the sound change "ejective > pharyngeal" is attested? Thanks so much!
