I was browsing the subreddit looking for bands similar to these and just ended up finding a lot of stuff more akin to metalcore. I was always under the impression that the bands I listed were melodic hardcore so I was curious as to whether anyone could rec me something similar.

2 cosmic beings that has a clowny desings are so powerful that they can create universes or dimensions if they wan't to but died to a unlikely band (losers club and star children)

thier arrogance,craziness and sheer might made up for thier cockiness

their evil,selfish and possibly lunatics they are unkillability and their imortality get's stoped by (ritual of chud and the pure hearts)

(plus dimentio stomps)

Pennywise is an interesting character to talk about in VS Debating. He has tons of hax and his true form is too broken for me to talk about here. However, one of the common debates I have seen for Pennywise is Pennywise vs Joker, and most people say that the Joker wins. Today I am going to tell you why that statement is entirely untrue and that in reality Pennywise stomps him so hard it's not even funny.

Reasoning: Pennywise simply won't be able to defeat the Joker, and that is his downfall, as Pennywise will retreat when his prey clearly isn't afraid.

Even if The Joker had no fear (which he does, and I will get into that later), that really doesn't matter. I mean, it's not like Pennywise hasn't manipulated (and killed) people who seemingly have no fear, and are somewhat just as fucked up as The Joker. For example, Patrick Hockstetter, and while you might think I'm exaggerating when I say he is as fucked up as The Joker, just read the book, and trust me, he might actually be even worse. This guy's mentality is very similar to that of The Joker's and he was flat out slaughtered by Pennywise like any normal child he kills. Plus, even if he weren't able to make him scared, he could still make him do his bidding, like he did to Henry.

Henry could also potentially be as mentally scarred as The Joker, and he doesn't really have fear at all. I mean, Pennywise didn't even bother trying to hunt him down and kill him like did to the other children, so it's not too farfetched to believe that he simply did not fear anything that Pennywise could manipulate. Now while this theory at first has some holes in it, if you go through the novel again, some of those holes are explained. "Why didn't IT just kill Henry anyway?" Pennywise could, but he just doesn't want to, simply because it doesn't taste good. Like for example, some people don't eat fries without ketchup. This is the same case with Pennywise. Ketchup in this case represents fear, and the fry is the person he is manipulating. If there is no ketchup, then he can't make his fry taste good. And if the fear is something he cannot manifest or manipulate, that won't work either. I don't really have an analogy for that, but it still applies. Some children, like Henry, and mentally and/or physically abused, and those years and years of mental and physical trauma is something Pennywise just can't replicate immediately. I mean, he could try and traumatize them himself, but if the child simply doesn't fear the thing Pe

TW: Eating Disorder / Anorexia / Weight Discussion ::: Seriously, if any of this subject matter triggers you, do not read this, I don't want to trigger anyone.

This is the update. I waited until the last post said a day ago, and started to write this out.

EDIT: IT'S MY CAKE DAY! FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY CAUGHT IT. LOL

Pennywise visited. She came like The Fairy Godmother from Shrek, and gave me a bag of her old shoes (can't buy any new clothes/shoes while lock-down is on, and my runners have literal holes in them). She was overly nice, which is suspicious as H-E-double-hockey-sticks. I plied both Pennywise and the Father with gifts. Mother's Day and Father's Day cards, flowers, along with little desserts personally chosen for each of them. And SO made up chicken and sausages or hot dogs on the BBQ. I also got Caesar salad, and pumpernickel bread with spinach dip as sides. My mother watched me like a hawk as I must have had about eight pieces of that, but I didn't eat anything else. Bread is a big no-no in our world, and I ate it directly in front of her. She asked about my weight once. At least that I can fully remember. If she asked again, I either ignored her, or just deflected.

"So, how much do you weigh now?"

I just shrugged and said,

"I don't know."

It wasn't what I practiced, but it was just what came to my mind at the time. She knows my hair is falling out. It was oily like a damned fish, and I hadn't washed it before she came, because I didn't want to be upset by the amount that comes out every time I shower or brush it. Eating disorders come with some serious side effects. My hair is my favourite feature. It's almost three feet long, and falling out constantly now.

She said something along the lines of:

"Wow, your hair is so long now, I could cut some of those dead ends off for you."

And I just shook my head and said,

"We can't touch it. It just falls out. I have to leave it alone as much as I can."

She suggested Minoxidil repeatedly, and said not to worry about it. That the weight loss was worth it, and my hair would grow back just as thick as it was before. And I took my shower tonight, and it's like the girl from the Ring is in my damned shower. So much hair loss. Just so heartbreaking because it's always been the one thing I've loved about myself. It's even been the one thing that Pennywise has always loved about me. She may have been dying my hair since I was a child to match the rest of the fami

I know you told me to put my foot down and step away from the poisoning of Pennywise. And many of you will be unhappy to hear that she is coming.

I basically slept all day. My husband has been taking care of everything. Pennywise (my mother, the narcissist) is coming tomorrow. And we are doing lunch together and showing them the house. I won't eat while she's here though. I just... Can't.

I know you all told me to stand my ground but my spine is weaker than it's ever been. She sent flowers for me losing 100lbs and I don't know how to deal with her tomorrow. I'm already exhausted.

I went up on the scale and I'm just preparing myself to say 'can we not talk about my weight', 'can we not talk about my weight', 'can we not talk about my weight'. I feel like if I practice I'll get it right tomorrow.

I even got my husband to help me practice. My husband told me he won't leave me alone with her.

I haven't been able to eat. Or even drink as much water as I should. I'm just a depressed lump of blankets. I have no form fitting clothes. I've lost so much weight of that everything is baggy because of the lockdown. Even clothes that used to fit are baggy now.

The fatigue shows on my face. My body is tired and the depression is a harsh mistress. Tomorrow as suggested by my doctor I will take my clonazepam and grey rock her like there's no tomorrow. I will sleep until tomorrow and try to eat something even if it's just a Pedialyte freezee or two or a meal replacement shake.

I feel physically sick and like I could cry at the drop of a pin. But I won't. I am broken but I am a fucking warrior. I've been sober for over 130 days now. But God could I use a drink. I won't but Pennywise does tend to bring that feeling out in me.

It's her Mother's Day visit. We have no gifts. It's going to go badly and I am ready for it to collapse in this weird house of cards way. My husband keeps reminding me to stay at his side as he 'needs measurements recorded for the windows'. So I'm to follow him with a pad of paper and a pen.

My husband always knows when it's bad because I just fade into myself. I sleep and I answer in monotonous tones and save my energy. I will need it to face her tomorrow.

I just have to remember to say 'can we not talk about my weight', 'can we not talk about my weight', 'can we not talk about my weight'. I have to remember. I have to remember.

I have to.

And why does pennywise only target the kids?

Both sides get their full arsenal.

Round 1:their avatars are fighting in derry.

Round 2:their true forms are fighting at the dark tower.

If anything is unclear ask me.

Who wins.

Do they go to the afterlife assuming that it exists in that verse? I've also heard somewhere that whenever they die, they go to the Deadlights. What is even this deadlights that they are talking about?

What would happen if IT came to Darry and faced a Venomized kid from the Loser’s Club? This could apply to movie and/or book versions. Its up to you guys in the discussion. Who would win?