Nór Puns

The main point / TL;DR:

Tolkien tells us explicitly that the sound changes between the period of Common Eldarin (the language the Eldar spoke just after departing from Cuiviénen) and Quenya made it so that the originally distinct words for "folk" (nō-re) and "land" (ndor) were often pronounced identically: nór(e). I suspect that the Númenóreans, who didn't speak Quenya natively (they either spoke Adûnaic [in the east] or Sindarin [in the west]), misinterpreted the Quenya word Valinóre (which was originally supposed to mean "the folk of the powers") as meaning "the land of the powers". Tolkien indicates that the non-Telerin Eldar conflated these too, but that's beside the point. Returning to the Mannish perspective, since the Elves were of Valinor (in the sense that they were of the folk of the Valar, being immortal, and being allowed to retire where the Valar live), when the Númenórean kings started fantasizing about going west, they thought they desired go to the land of immortality when (originally / linguistically) they desired to go to the folk who are immortal, because homophones.

Additional details:

I'm assuming everyone is familiar with the Akallabêth, particularly the part where the Númenórean kings express the ill-founded belief that the land of Valinor itself makes one immortal. This is page 264 of Silm [Houghton Mifflin, 2nd edition] (and probably also something in Aldarion & Erendis, but I forget).

Now, In "Words, Phrases, and Passages in various tongues in The Lord of the Rings" (published in Parma 17; available on LibGen), Tolkien gives the following lexical entry (note that Q=Quenya, and that √ROOT is schematic for Common Eldarin or Primitive Quendian roots):

>ennorath, pl. (collective) = “(all) the Middle-lands,” a poetic expression for the usual Ennor (Q Endor, Endórë) “Middle-earth”: this is derived from √EN(ED) ‘centre, middle’ and √NDOR, land; the latter in Quenya was confused or blended with nōre < √NŌ meaning "generation, people, folk, large group regarded as of common ancestry.” Thus in Quenya Valinor, Valinórë usually meant the “Land of the Valar,” but was strictly in origin the “Valian folk” ...

Boldface mine. (This is corroborated by the entry for Sindarin dôr 'land' in the language appendix for the Silmarillion [Houghton Mifflin, 2nd edition]. I don't really trust C's interpretations of JRR's linguistics, though, hence the primary so

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