Kevin Burke - Caisleรกn na nร“r/Bobby Casey's Hornpipe youtube.com/watch?v=Km76yโ€ฆ
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Nรณr - Eve [Folk pop/indie pop] nordenmark.bandcamp.com/tโ€ฆ
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Augvald, son of Rognvald, son of Rugalf, son of Gard Agde, son of Nรณr of Gotland en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augโ€ฆ
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I think Tolkien gave us an in-universe explanation for why Tar-Ciryatan, Tar-Atanamir, and their descendants believed that Valinor was an "undying land" (in the sense of making one immortal by virtue of simply BEING there, as opposed to the lands where the undying happened to live).

The main point / TL;DR:

Tolkien tells us explicitly that the sound changes between the period of Common Eldarin (the language the Eldar spoke just after departing from Cuiviรฉnen) and Quenya made it so that the originally distinct words for "folk" (nล-re) and "land" (ndor) were often pronounced identically: nรณr(e). I suspect that the Nรบmenรณreans, who didn't speak Quenya natively (they either spoke Adรปnaic [in the east] or Sindarin [in the west]), misinterpreted the Quenya word Valinรณre (which was originally supposed to mean "the folk of the powers") as meaning "the land of the powers". Tolkien indicates that the non-Telerin Eldar conflated these too, but that's beside the point. Returning to the Mannish perspective, since the Elves were of Valinor (in the sense that they were of the folk of the Valar, being immortal, and being allowed to retire where the Valar live), when the Nรบmenรณrean kings started fantasizing about going west, they thought they desired go to the land of immortality when (originally / linguistically) they desired to go to the folk who are immortal, because homophones.

Additional details:

I'm assuming everyone is familiar with the Akallabรชth, particularly the part where the Nรบmenรณrean kings express the ill-founded belief that the land of Valinor itself makes one immortal. This is page 264 of Silm [Houghton Mifflin, 2nd edition] (and probably also something in Aldarion & Erendis, but I forget).

Now, In "Words, Phrases, and Passages in various tongues in The Lord of the Rings" (published in Parma 17; available on LibGen), Tolkien gives the following lexical entry (note that Q=Quenya, and that โˆšROOT is schematic for Common Eldarin or Primitive Quendian roots):

>ennorath, pl. (collective) = โ€œ(all) the Middle-lands,โ€ a poetic expression for the usual Ennor (Q Endor, Endรณrรซ) โ€œMiddle-earthโ€: this is derived from โˆšEN(ED) โ€˜centre, middleโ€™ and โˆšNDOR, land; the latter in Quenya was confused or blended with nลre < โˆšNลŒ meaning "generation, people, folk, large group regarded as of common ancestry.โ€ Thus in Quenya Valinor, Valinรณrรซ usually meant the โ€œLand of the Valar,โ€ but was strictly in origin the โ€œValian folkโ€ ...

Boldface mine. (This is corroborated by the entry for Sindarin dรดr 'land' in the language appendix for the Silmarillion [Houghton Mifflin, 2nd edition]. I don't really trust C's interpretations of JRR's linguistics, though, hence the primary so

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What do you call a man with no arms or legs in a hole?

Phil

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Did you know Bruce Lee has a faster older brother?

Sudden Lee

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DAD JOKES ARE NOT DIRTY.

Go post NSFW jokes somewhere else. If I can't tell my kids this joke, then it is not a DAD JOKE.

If you feel it's appropriate to share NSFW jokes with your kids, that's on you. But a real, true dad joke should work for anyone's kid.

Mods... If you exist... Please, stop this madness. Rule #6 should simply not allow NSFW or (wtf) NSFL tags. Also, remember that MINORS browse this subreddit too? Why put that in rule #6, then allow NSFW???

Please consider changing rule #6. I love this sub, but the recent influx of NSFW tagged posts that get all the upvotes, just seem wrong when there are good solid DAD jokes being overlooked because of them.

Thank you,

A Dad.

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I've asked so many people what LGBTQ stands for

So far nobody has given me a straight answer

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Why should you never brush your teeth with your left hand?

Because a toothbrush works better

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Caught my son chewing on electrical wires....

Had to ground him until he could conduct himself properly.

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Pulled a Dad Joke on a Nurse

I am currently in the hospital. I had a back operation yesterday. The surgical nurse came in my room and started asking questions about my back. She asked me if I had any falls during the last year. I responded just one. It was after summer.

She laughed and said in 20 years of doing this she never was told that joke.

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Whatโ€™s the difference between an Indian restaurant and a Vietnamese restaurant?

Indian places are naan profit, Vietnamese places are pho profit.

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Anyone who can spell the word drawer backwards...

..... Will get a reward.

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Rational
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Why are elevator jokes so good

Because they work on many levels

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Who were the greenest Presidents in US history?

The Bushes

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Looking forward to the Fibonacci convention this year, it's supposed to be really special..

..and as big as the last two put together.

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Interviewer : why should we hire you as a waiter?

Me : For starters, I bring a lot to the table

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My wife blocked me on Facebook because I post too many bird puns.

Well, toucan play at that game.

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When my son graduated from high school, he had to give a speech. He began by reading from his prepared text.

I want to talk about my father and the wonderful influence he has had on my life,' he told the audience. 'He is a shining example of parenthood, and I love him more than words could ever do justice.'

At this point he seemed to struggle for words. After a pause, he looked up with a sly grin and said, 'Sorry, but it's really hard to read my fatherโ€™s handwriting.'

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Argon enters a bar, the bartender says โ€œWe donโ€™t serve noble gases here.โ€

Argon does not react.

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If Apple made a car what would it be missing?

Windows

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Just saw on the internet
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There are only two white people in the movie Black Panther

Martin Freeman, and Andy Serkis.

They also play roles in Lord of the Rings.

I guess that makes them the Tolkien white guys.

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My 3 yr old daughter made her first pun today and I almost cried. She was eating an apple and I asked her if she liked apples.

She said apple-lutely

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Be nice
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He needs grounded
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"ground" the kid
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If I had 50 cents for every math Exam I failed

Iโ€™d have $8.40

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My son accidentally handed me a dad joke on a platter and it was glorious.

This happened a few years ago when my son was 6ish. When my kids hurt themselves and it doesnโ€™t look serious I always do the โ€œwe might have to amputate that bruised handโ€ shtick with them. Iโ€™ve done it enough that they now roll their eyes.

So, my son got hit lightly in the face with a rubber ball. It wasnโ€™t a hard hit and I could tell he was more upset by the shock of it rather than the pain. So I say โ€œlooks like we will have to amputate your nose.โ€ To which he replies โ€œthen how will I smell?โ€ And I say โ€œterrible!โ€

It was my greatest dad joke ever. I felt like I could retire after that.

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MMM, burgers
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What did the left eye say to the right eye when they got married?

'Eye-do'

This is my first post pls don't kill me lol.

The people in the comment section is why I love this subreddit!!

Cred once again my sis wants credit lol

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Well there goes his reproductive fitness...
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Proud dad moment.

Keep in mind, my son is 4 years old, so everything is an original to him.

I had to work late into the evening yesterday, and he was just going to bed when I got home. I had left home for the office nearly 14 hours prior, had a long day, lots of meetings, traffic, etc.

When I walked through the door, I was exhausted, run down, and starving. My wife hugged me and asked how my day was, and I replied, "Done. It was a good day, but has got me exhausted. I just want to grab a bite and go to bed. I'm hungry."

From my son's bedroom, I hear him shout, "Hi Hungry! Nice to meet you!"

Not only did it make me laugh, but I completely forgot about how hungry and tired I was. I went to his bedroom, and we laughed together about it. It was exactly what I needed.

Edit: Thanks for all the awards, kind strangers! I'll let my son know y'all enjoyed his joke too!

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What was a very common name in the middle ages?

I heard parents named their children lance a lot.

First post please don't kill me

Edit: i went to sleep and now my inbox is dead, thank you kind strangers for the awards!

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Apologies if it's a bit corn-y
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so many choices
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Why did the toilet paper roll down the hill?

To get to the... Bottom...

(as told by my 5yo son, I'm so proud)

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What pan is the best to make sushi in?

Japan.

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I just don't understand why some people are so adverse to vacuums...
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He knows too much
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My inflatable house got a puncture last night.

Now, I'm living in a flat.

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All these puns are

Much much me me me me handle handle

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I said to my wife, "I need to call the doctor today." Concerned, she asked, "Which doctor?"

"No, the regular kind!" I laughed.

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