Grandma's first language was Old Norse
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How did Norse mythology find its way into the English language to the extent that three days of the week are still named after old Norse gods? (Tuesday, Thursday and Friday)

You could imagine that something from Christianity, for example, would have replaced those names through the years.

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When you're studying Old Norse in your Language History class and realize that you and 99% of the Destiny community pronounce Gjallarhorn wrong
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Prior to the adoption of Latin alphabet, how widespread was literacy (in Norse, Latin, or other languages) among speakers of Old Norse?

To be more specific: When Viking/Norse societies began to convert to Christianity (in Norway under the reign of Olaf Tryggvason at the end of the 10th century and in Iceland and Greenland in the 11th century), who among the early Norse-speaking converts would have likely been literate and in what languages? For example, in the Saga of the Greenlanders Leif Erikson is baptized by king Olaf Tryggvason, charged with converting the Greenlanders, and given a priest to take back to Greenland. Assuming there’s some truth to this account (I understand the Sagas were written down centuries after the events they recount and are not strictly speaking histories), how would the spread of Christianity in a place like 11th century Greenland likely have taken place? Were the heads of wealthy households (Leif Erikson’s father Erik the Red, for example) likely to have been literate in runic Norse or Latin?

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In trying to get a sense of how Germanic languages have diverged over time, I'm wondering, were Old English and Old Norse more mutually intelligible than, for example, Standard German and Dutch are today?
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What Became Of The Old Norse Language?

I know most of norse history was lost and we only know the little of what was preserved but I wonder about the language of that time which we call 'Old Norse'. I know it is part of the germanic family of languages and I read that the language had been fragmented into a few different languages. My question is that is the original way the 'Old Norse' language was spoken still practiced today by any communities? or has it been lost to the wind?

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The characters change from Norwegian to old Norse language when talking to each other. Is that obvious?

The God characters sometimes change from speaking Norwegian to speak old Norse when they speak to each other or don't want civilians to understand what they are saying. As a Norwegian that is obvious to me, but does that detail translate to non-Norwegian audiences? Like, does the subtitles indicate they are speaking old Norse?

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Frozen (2013) features accurate Norse runes. Disney consulted with Jack Crawford, a leading international expert in Old Norse. Crawford made several minor plot changes and coached voice actor Robert Pine, who played the bishop in the coronation scene and delivered a speech in the Norse language.
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From my Norwegian text: Basque is the oldest language in Europe but Sanskrit is even older than Basque. Maybe I should learn all 3?!?!? Brb adding old Norse.
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Old Norse language

Hey does anyone now where I can learn old Norse language without buying a book?

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Yo guys is old norse an actual language that you can learn?
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this group is for learn old norse language?

if yes can someone share with me the alphabet and some verbs,thanks

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You know what the iorny is? English (West Germanic language) has a lot of loanwords from Old Norse (North Germanic language) yet North Germanic languages like Danish, Norwegian and Swedish has loanwords from Middle Low German (West Germanic language).
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The language of the Vikings is old Norse, what current language is closer to it, Swedish or Norwegian, explain why?
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What is the modern form/language of old norse?

Ive had a weird obsession in norse mythology and history for a little while, and recently I was hit with the idea of the norse language and wanted to teach myself the language. Originally i planned on old Norse but i didnt think it would be very useful in modern day. I never got any straight answer from google so i came here.

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Unknown > English. I assume the song is in a old language of sorts, maybe Old Norse? Don't know. I wasn't able to find the translation of the song anywhere| Credit: Ulvens dΓΆttrar.
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Early medieval language learning, including Old Norse

Couple of great resources for learning early medieval languages, including Old Norse, including free online resources.

https://www.anoxfordhistorian.com/post/early-medieval-language-learning-dictionaries-and-books

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GΓ³Γ°an dag! This week’s language of the week: Old Norse.

Overview

Old Norse is a North Germanic language that was spoken throughout Scandinavia and in Scandinavian settlements from around the 8th to 13th centuries AD, and used as a written language until the 15th century. It is perhaps most well known as the language of the Vikings and Icelandic sagas.

Old Norse is the ancestor of most modern Scandinavian languages, including Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Faroese and Elfdalian. It is unintelligible when spoken with all modern descendants, though Icelandic speakers can usually understand it when written.

Old Norse is split into many dialects, for the purpose of simplicity I will be focusing this LOTW on the Old Icelandic dialect, which is the most attested and studied dialect.

History

Old Norse evolved from Proto Norse, a language spoken in southern Scandinavia between the 2nd and 8th centuries AD. Old Norse quickly spread outside of Scandinavia due to Viking expansion, when Norsemen set sail en mass to colonise new lands and conquer rival kingdoms in search of better land and greater power.

The Norsemen were excellent seafarers, and managed to establish Norse influence across much of Northern Britain as well as Iceland, Greenland and even modern day Russia. By the 10th century Old Norse was the dominant language in Iceland, eastern Ireland and the Scottish isles as well as mainland scandinavia. In the 11th century, Old Norse was considered Europe’s most widely spoken Language.

In the 9th century different dialects began to become distinguished, and Old Norse was split into three main dialects: Old West Norse, Old East Norse and Old Guntish. This split would pave way for the phonological differences we see in the modern Scandinavian languages today, for example between Norwegian (West Norse).and Swedish (East Norse).

Despite these changes, the dialects were still considered the same language by the Norsemen of the time until the 12th century. They referred to their language as DΗ«nsk Tunga, which means: β€œDanish Tongue”.

Whilst the Scandinavian languages had mainly split up in the 14th century, Old Norse continued to be written in Iceland until the 15th century, albeit with some grammatical changes. Modern Icelandic is the most similar living language to Old Norse, but Faroese and Elfdalian are also very similar in grammar. Many places, such as Northern England, retain Norse vocabulary in their dialects.

Today Old Norse is still an important language amongst historians and archaeologists

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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Is it true that the name York came from old Norse (Viking) language?

Hi guys! First time posting here. So today I found out that York in the UK was a Viking settlement. I didn’t know that the word York came from old Norse (Viking) language. So what does that make Yorkshire Terriers? Viking dogs? Lol. I’m asking cuz I love these Yorkshire dogs.

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AC:V I just wanted to ask. How would Eivor "Wolf-kissed" be called in the old Norse/native language?

I don't know if it was discussed here before, but I would like to ask as I have only heard him called in english. I am interested in something like Ragnar Lothbrokk, but for Eivor. Thank you

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All of the character's names in Old Norse/Old English (their native language) [No Spoilers]

Ragnar Lothbrok- Ragnarr LoΓ°brΓ³k (ON)

Lagertha-HlaΓ°gerΓ°r (ON)

Rollo-HrΓ³lfr(ON)

Siggy small name for-SigrΓ­Γ°r (ON)

Floki-FlΓ³ki (ON)

Earl Haraldson-Jarl Haraldsson (ON)

*Athelstan-*Æþelstan (OE)

King Horik-Konungr Horik (ON)

Aslaug-Ásslaug (ON)

King Ecbert- Cyning Ecgbehrt (OE)

Bjorn Ironside-BjΓΆrn JΓ‘rnsΓ­Γ°a (ON)

Ivar the Boneless-Ívarr hinn Beinlausi (ON)

Hvitserk-HvΓ­tserk (ON)

Sigurd snake in the eye-SigurΓ°r ormr Γ­ auga (ON)

Ubbe-Ubba (ON)

Harbard-HΓ‘rbarΓ°r (ON)

King Harald Finehair(fairhair)-Haraldr inn hΓ‘rfagri (ON)

Halfdan the Black-Halfdanr Svarti (ON)

AEthelwulf-Æþelwulf (OE)

Heahmund-i dont know cant find it

Erik the red-Erik Thorvaldsson (real name) cant find "the red" in old norse

Torvi-Þórví (ON)

Gunnhild-Gunnhildr (ON)

Thorunn-Þórunn (ON)

Guthrum-GuΓ°rum (ON)

Ingrid-IngrΓ­Γ°r (ON)

Prince Igor-Ingvar RΓΈriksen (ON)

Olaf-Γ“lΓ‘fr (ON)

Jarl Borg-JarlBorg (ON)

Erlendur- erlendr / ΓΈrlendr (ON)

Jarl Kalf-Jarl Kalf (ON)

prince Oleg- old east slavic-ѠлСгъ old norse-Helgi (OS,ON)

Prince Dir-cant find it

Kwenthrith-Cwenthryth (OE)

Alfred- Γ†lfrΔ“d, Γ†lfrΗ£d (OE)

Γ†thelred-ÆþelrΓ¦d (OE)

If im missing someone please let me know :) ! I'd appreciate an upvote cuz it took me some time lol

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Frozen (2013) features accurate Norse runes. Disney consulted with Jack Crawford, a leading international expert in Old Norse. Crawford made several minor plot changes and coached voice actor Robert Pine, who played the bishop in the coronation scene and delivered a speech in the Norse language.
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TIL Icelandic people actively work to eliminate English "loanwords" in their language by inventing and substituting new words from Old Icelandic and Norse roots en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin…
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The vikings speak icelandic cause it's the closest we have to old norse which is a dead language like Latin. So why do knights speak Latin?

I'm guessing cause of the Roman thing they are going for but it would be cool if knights spoke German or French considering those were the languages of most of the crusaders(especially french) What do y'all think? Do you like the latin knights or would you prefer something else?

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Wanting to learn old norse, with little foreign language experience. Is modern icelandic a good starting place, or should I go straight into old norse?

One of the reasons i think i might start with icelandic is that i then have access to online resources like memrise which can help me learn and give me some structure. I don't have a lot of success with foreign languages historically, but the last time I tried it was mandatory and i was REALLY fuckin busy so i didn't really give it much of a chance (it was 4 semesters of german for lang credits in college, and I was a straight C language student. Ich vergeissen viele vokabln.)

I don't really have any specific interest in icelandic itself, it's more of a stepping stone to old norse, which is why im wondering if I should just skip it. I just worry that without a living language, i'll struggle to find audio and pronunciation help.

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Someome on YouTube made me a custom Fan-made 'Assassin's Creed: Valhalla' trailer with music made by a group I listen to called "Wardruna", who often implement Old Norse language into their songs. He spent his night making it, just so I could nerd out a bit. Please show his video love, link bellow!
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Dr. Crawford teaches at my University and he runs a YouTube series on Norse Mythology and Old Norse language. An he just put up this video talking about the runes in ACV as he worked for them in consultation. Figured someone would find it interesting! youtu.be/764hz8_PHeM
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TIL in a remote valley in Sweden, people still speak an ancient dialect of Old Norse, the language of the Vikings. It's called Elfdalian and they still used runes up until the 1900s. sciencenordic.com/isolate…
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Old Norse for idiots (A language question)

Hey all. I'm struggling with Alaric's magic sheet.

Trying to figure out the cases of Old Norse. Sadly most i find and understand are in English which is not my first language thus I feel I need to learn English grammar first to begin diving into Norse grammar. Now that comes particularly difficult for me as my native language uses 14 cases. The only other languages I speak are Russian and Finnish and there aren't much around in these languages.

What is causing me a struggle is the lack of English counterparts on Alaric's sheet. With that said, is it possible to explain the cases for a complete idiot, in a very simplistic way?

Insert random "I have no time, but really I'm just lazy" excuse here.

While on the subject, any other dictionaries out there except for Faulkes Glossary?

I do thank you!

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Looking for advice on which language to learn first: Old Norse or Modern Icelandic

I'm looking into potentially studying in Iceland for a grad program and wanted a bit of advice from any of you willing to put in your 2 cents. Would it be smarter to start learning modern Icelandic since the program will emphasize Old Norse, or should I just start studying Old Norse to get a leg up on studying primary sources? But I also imagine that getting a start on the modern language will make it easier to navigate the country and read scholarly literature. I don't know if I'll end up going, but assuming that I am, what would you all pick?

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First post but longtime fan of this wonderful forum: Why did the Norman lords England not assimilate into Anglo-Saxon language and culture the way their Norse ancestors adapted to Frankish ways?

Or is the extent to which the Anglo-Normans maintained their status as a people apart exaggerated?

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TIL 20% of all words in the English language are words from Old Norse, the language of the Vikings. Consequently, the modern Scandinavian languages are ranked among the easiest languages to learn for English speakers. mydanishroots.com/history…
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Norse code: project aims to decipher sound of old languages theguardian.com/culture/2…
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Should I use Elder Futhark vs Younger Futhark to represent Old Norse language?

Which runes would be a better representation of Old Norse? Let's say I want to take a word from English, translate it into Old Norse and then write it in runes. While I know I could probably use Elder and Younger Futhark, which one would be more correct to use?

Also, just wanting to be sure, most runestones were written in Younger Futhark, so if I'd like to learn to read them it's probably better to learn Younger Futhark then? I find Elder Futhark more visually appeasing, which is why I instinctively went to learn it first.

Also last question: will learning Elder Futhark make learning Younger Futhark easier in the future?

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Another conlang translation from Vinland Saga in my Old Norse like language youtu.be/vu0_ga9Mf4I
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old norse language resource

Appears to be a promising resource for students of the language.
https://lrc.la.utexas.edu/eieol/norol

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TIL Icelanders can easily read old norse, dead language that was spoken in scandinavia 1000 years ago because written Icelandic has changed so little. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old…
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An Old Norse - Wendat - Mi'kmaq Mixed Language?

So there's a conworld I've been working on with my brother. The premise is that it's an alternate, fantasy version of Earth... essentially, it's a classic fantasy world, but with some historical figures, nations, and cultures in it (modified suitably to fit the setting). In this world, in around 1000 AD, Norsemen colonised eastern Canada, and were subsequently cut off from Europe. They intermingled with the locals, forming a whole new culture--and a new language--by the time Europe re-established contact hundreds of years later.

It wouldn't be a creole, but rather a mixed language in the mold of Michif--if you don't know what that is, it's a language that combines French and Cree. It's fascinating since Romance and Algonquin languages have such drastically different grammars, but Michif seems to have made little attempt to unify them. Words seem to mostly retain the grammar of the language they originated from, giving Michif the odd feeling of having French and Cree being spoken simultaneously.

It seems to me something similar might happen if I were to mix Old Norse with Wendat and Mi'kmaq. The phonology could be more or less a combination of the three parent languages, like Michif does with its parents, while the grammar might end up being something of a two- or three-way split, with individual words utilising their original grammar.

Another problem would be the interaction of grammatical categories. Old Norse has masculine, feminine, and neuter, while Mi'kmaq has animate and inanimate. I don't know what Wendat's categories are, if it has any. The trouble comes in if an Old Norse noun were to get used with a Mi'kmaw verb. I think Old Norse only marks gender on their nouns, but in Mi'kmaq, the verb's animacy has to agree with the noun.

It's an intriguing idea, but I'm not exactly committed to even doing it yet. Still, I was wondering if anyone here has any thoughts on such a concept or knows of any resources to make the job more doable. Specifically, the Internet seems to be lacking in information on the grammar of Wendat and Mi'kmaq, and in translators or dictionaries that i could use to translate words and phrases.

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PhD students help bring back the ancient viking language of Old Norse

PhD students from the University of York have helped bring back the ancient viking language of Old Norse for the Jorvik Centre in York. Listen to the students perform HΓΆfuΓ°lausn, a viking poem from the 10th century.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OKxzSKzJe0

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Old Norse language

Hey does anyone know where I can start to learn old Norse language?

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Old Norse languages

I’m learning Norwegian (BokmΓ₯l) and I would like to know if it is intelligible with other old Norse languages like danish or Swedish. Are they?

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How similar were Germanic languages around the year 1000 AD? I'm thinking all Germanic languages including Old Norse, Old Saxon, Old English, Old West Germanic and even Gothic.

Or if not at 1000 AD then when were they the most similar, after Proto Germanic?

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[Spoilers] For those of you here who are native speakers of what the Old Norse language has evolved into (i.e. Icelandic, Norwegian, Swedish), how accurate would you say the language is portrayed in the show?

I'll take Ivar for example. When he stood his ground against the English, face covered in blood and was screaming at them, what language was he speaking? Was it accurate, in your opinion?

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