Hi,
I need help figuring out one word from the burgundian charter (ca. 1067) I am currently studying for my Master's degree. The whole charter in itself is already transcribed, but I have not been able to identify properly the seventh word (from the left) of the third line (from the top). See picture below :
https://preview.redd.it/dcply6qxsob81.jpg?width=1721&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=230690f471e5d6d54f23b380f5b62501f62ec358
As you can see, a fold in the parchment prevents us from seeing clearly the second letter (which is probably a "c" or a "t") and there seems to be an abbreviation sign (or perhaps a diacritical sign?) above the letter in front of the "-os". The word clearly is the accusative plural noun that goes with "per" and is accompanied by the plural accusative adjective "innumerabiles".
I also am pretty sure the first letter "a" is part of the word, since it is a plural accusative (otherwise the "a" would have called for an ablative).
As of now, the only thing I came up with is :
a c/t h t i m o s
or : a c/t h u m o s
What I originally think was a "u" seems more and more like a "ti" (see for exemple the word "presertim" at the end of the second line) but I have been unable to find a word that suits the meaning of this extract and none of my researches in the Database of Latin Dictionnaries have proven fruitfull.
Salve omnis!
I'm a doctoral researcher working on some late-medieval (fourteenth- and fifteenth-century) documents relating to saints and canonisation. Most of these are saints' Lives and the records of specific canonisation trials - a fair few have been translated, but there's a few I've got to work through myself. My Latin is pretty rusty (though slowly improving), so I was hoping to ask for a little bit of help on a few sections I've found myself confused by.
The first is this:
>Istum desperatum visitauit Maria, nec dimisit eum vsque ad mortem, et dum salutis monita illi daret, tacens audiebat verba illius, et a clamore cessabat.
I've translated this as:
>Mary visited this desperate man, and did not release him until death, and while she was giving him warnings of safety, he was listening silently to her words, and ceased from shouting.
It's the middle section that's confusing me here. "Did not release him until death" doesn't seem right, though it's my first 'direct' translation. I kind of want "did not abandon him to death". Would that work?
The second section that's throwing me a bit is this:
>Mox dimissis clamoribus, quædam vox raucissima audita est, Grauor nimis, & grauatis me valde: statimq; submissa voce, suggerente diabolo, Deū negabat & Sanctos, Virginem autem gloriosam negare non valebat.
I've come up with:
>Immediately after the outcry was dismissed, a very loud voice was heard βI am weighed down and you all weigh me downβ immediately; in a low voice, suggesting to the Devil, he denied God and the Saints, but could not deny the glorious Virgin.
Again, it's the middle causing my problems here. The speech is slightly confusing, but I think I've got it right. It's the following "statimq; submissa voce, suggerente diabolo". This is in the context of a possessed man being taken into a church to be healed. "Suggerente" is the present active participle, which I've translated as "suggesting", and I think it's in the ablative here, but I'm not convinced by "suggesting to the Devil", as that really doesn't make sense. I sort of want "prompted by the Devil", but I'm not sure that fits. I'm also unclear who the subject of the "submissa voce" is - I assume it's the possessed man, but I'm a bit shaky on it.
I think most of my uncertainty is the result of rustiness - I'm returning to Latin after about 6 years of neglect, so while the basics remain most intact I'm not as confident as I used to be.
Many thanks in advance
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Thanks for any/all help in advance!
In one of Shadiversity's videos that he states that many people in the middle ages not just clergymen and nobles could read, but they're were not considered literate because they can't read and write latin and only read and write in their local langauge.
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The skies are forsoiled with such thick smoke, the smell is strong, it is as if night has fallen upon us. The lakes and streams are near dried, what is to be the orlay of the farms? The farmer? His odal and his livestock? Of the crops in the fields? The rains are few and far between, the grounds may soon be scorched, unlike anything we have seen. I bid only that this drought shall not last, or is it that this world is waning fast?.
Chronica sancti Pantaleonis
I came across a bishop's register from the 13th century in which he regularly absolves people from the sentence of excommunication under the condition that they perform penances after being absolved. In doing so, he often uses the wording (or something similar to it), after proclaiming a penitent as absolved: "..., satisfacto prius l[a]eso et imposita sibi pro commisso penitencia salutari, injunctoque sibi pro pena publica, quod receperet disciplinam." While the second part can be translated to: "..., that he receives a beating.", I struggle with the interrelation of the first part. Does it mean that the penitent in question has to provide satisfaction for the injury for which he was excommunicated, he has been given a salutary penitence and has to receive a beating as a public punishment on top of it, or is it supposed to mean that the beating has three functions - as a satisfaction, as a penitence and as a punishment?
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But it's Neo-Latin (like this) which is unsuitable for my purposes
Any pointers?
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