Repetitive Stress Injury Puns

I love Valheim. I have only one major suggestion, and it involves the quantity of spam-clicking that is involved in playing the game.

There are a few actions that, after a couple hundred hours, you end up doing thousands of times. Most of them are done in quick, repetitive succession, and after some time, my hand has started to hurt from them. I have not modded any of the content of the game, but these specific parts of the game, I have installed mods to alleviate my own physical pain. I offer them in order of their priority to me personally.

1. Smelter and kiln loading. It takes 25 button presses to load a kiln, 30 button presses to load a smelter, and these 55 actions are performed once per smelter-kiln setup per five minutes (or even more often than that). The game does have an option to press and hold to load items -- but it loads them one at a time, at a very slow rate. The time penalty here is massive, making it take almost a minute to load each smelter-and-kiln, and it is time spent holding a button and waiting. Suggestion: the shift key should let you load as many ore, coal, and wood as you are currently carrying at once. It may also be good to expand the hitbox on the smelter and kiln, so alignment is not as difficult, but on this one I'm less certain.

2. The workbench and forge each require you to spam click the repair button whenever you want to repair your items. This is something I do after every trip abroad. It is quite a lot of spam clicking that is not strictly required. Suggestion: providing an option (maybe in settings?) to automatically repair any equipment that can be repaired at a workbench or forge every time you use them would alleviate this problem.

3. Mining and tree chopping require you to click once for each hit. If you're taking out several full copper deposits, or farming trees, this is quite a lot of clicks without any other motion, especially early game when breaking a copper deposit node can take more than a few hits. Suggestion: provide an option that lets me hold down the attack button to attack continuously.

4. This one is less prominent, but the finicky motion required to align crops when farming is also painful. Planting many crops at once is also painful, but to a lesser extent. To this, I only look to the FarmGrid mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/449. It automatically aligns each crop, so you don't have to jog your character back and forth into place in order to plant many rows of crops.

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Getting back into bass after years of playing classical/jazz guitar.

The right hand technique taught by most classical guitar instructors keeps your wrist straight in both axes, like this. That is not possible when playing bass, where the right hand ends up bent at a full 90 degree angle like this.

I was taught that moving your fingers around (and therefore your tendons) with that sort of bend in your wrist can cause repetitive stress injuries like carpal tunnel.

How do you guys protect against that kind of injury?

Thanks.

I work with my hands in a manufacturing position and last fall, I started having pain in my thumb. Initially considered trigger thumb, I opened a worker’s compensation claim and went home for rest. In January, work out me in a new position that was “light duty” part time. Still in minor pain, I worked, and as we went to full time, pain increased. They asked me to go home two weeks ago and not come back until I feel better. My condition remains unchanged and I have daily pain even without use of my hands.

Worker’s Compensation says my condition is “medically stable” and they will no longer be paying me. I’ve been searching for new jobs (not in manufacturing or hand-heavy work) and have yet to be hired for a new position.

What are my rights and where should I be pursuing money while I still remain in pain?

I work in ergonomics and go to a lot of worksites and was wondering if you noticed any issues where you had to adapt because your tools didn’t fit or your workstation didn’t fit your size?

What experiences do you have where your workstation / tools are obviously designed for men?

What do you do to stop discomfort? Are you worried that you’re more likely to get an injury?

How’s the ergonomic training at your job? Is there anything you wish you knew before starting your job?

I’m wondering what’s the best way to address these problems, because I’m always trying to come up with better ways to fix these job sites. Do you think a women specific ergonomics program would help? Or better PPE? Thanks!!

I had exciting plans to open a knitting and crochet online store this winter, but in September I developed tendonitis in my elbows and inflammation in my forearms. I met with my doctor and was referred to hand therapy for two months. It absolutely helped but the pain is still there and it's slowed me down. I'm thirty years old, and only discovered the joy of knitting and crocheting two years ago, so I didn't expect that this would to happen to me.

Were you able to maintain your store after developing an injury? How do you make it work? Do you only open the store a few times a year? Or did you have to close?

Just a friendly warning that the repeated motion of flicking the wrist while using the grab button can result in a repetitive stress injury (RSI). I had been playing every night for a couple weeks and now my grab finger on my dominant hand really hurts. I also recall talking to someone in a lobby saying he had been wearing a brace due to the same thing.

Be sure to take breaks and do hand and arm stretches.

I don't work at Walmart but this is the most relevant sub reddit. I work at DG and there's no belt so I spend hours reaching and having to round my shoulders because of the long counter and customers leave their stuff in the middle or end a lot - the counter is also pretty low and customers always put the money on the counter so I have to reach for that, and round my shoulders and bend to get into the drawer and count change as well. The pain has been steadily increasing for a week or so, it used to be minor and go away the next day but now I feel it when I do other things on my days off too. My shoulders and neck ache and it's making me miserable at work. Is there any way to mitigate this problem even though I can't avoid all the reaching and stretching? And exercises that can help heal it faster when I'm not working? I'm sitting here on break in so much pain :(

Hi Cardists!

After decades away from handling decks (I don't think "cardistry" was a term in my youth), I picked it up again from the beginning.

One thing I have noticed as I practice is that my carpal tunnel syndrome (CTS) is noticeably better as a result.

When I practice (and I think this should be a pointer for all beginners), is to focus on form and correctness, not flare and speed. This forces you to build correct "muscle memory". It also requires holding various positions longer, exercising a lot of muscles that have, for myself with this condition, been causing extreme, random and sudden pain.

For those who are unaware, CTS and RSI are chronic, but not constant, conditions. I spent decades as a programmer. All of that keyboard and mouse time has taken a toll. Even gripping every day items runs the risk of creating sudden, sharp, exruciating and unexpected pain. Sometimes dropping breakables, or even loud bursts of inappropriate expletives in polite company :)

Practicing even the basics of cardistry forces your hands into unfamiliar configurations. This has had an extremely positive effect on my CTS.

As I watch movies and TV wih my better half or find myself idle, I practice some basics like swivel or swing cuts. Almost absent mindedly. As a backround process, I try to get a count of "perfect" executions. Your hands will let you know when you fumble.

Tips:

• when first starting, focus on a perfect start, perfect execution, and perfect end back to your grip.

• do it as slowly as you need to go to reliably repeat the cycle. E.g., for swing/swivels start with just a swing cut. Repeat. Then practice index finger swivels. Repeat. Then thumb swivels. Start with a grip and end with a clean deck after the move. There should be no need to square the deck, otherwise it is a fumble.

• this builds muscle memory just like walking. It should be second nature. Something you do not have to think about and so ingrained, you would have a hard time explaining it right away to someone else. "I dunno, I just do it!" is how you should feel when asked to explain unless you slow down and think about it

• this is how musicians and martial artists hone their skills. Slow and correct at first. Focus on the basics until it is as natural as breathing for you

• one side benefit, you may learn that for your hands and your brain, there may be some more effective ways for you to execute moves with a style that works best and uniquely for you as you pract

A few weeks into a new job I started to have symptoms of an RSI, reported it, but despite them offering me to see a doctor I decided to push thru because I needed the work. The pain was on/off for months. Now over 6mo later it’s become an issue again. What can/should I do?

I have practiced martial arts for the past 6 years and the repetitive stress from throwing my punches wrong injured my elbow - i have a grinding or rubbing sensation in my elbow when i stretch my arm but i have mild pain from time to time and in colder climate .

I kinda hurt my shoulder from my bodybuilding efforts - when i keep my arms parallel to the ground and stretch back behind my chest it makes the same grinding noise and popping noise ( or maybe like if some one pulled a stretched out string and it has that initial sound when released ). It doesnt hurt but is making it annoying and hard to do bench press . Im 5'10 , 72 kg.

Of course, I'm talking with my doctor and physical therapist (neither of whom are piano players) about this but I thought some of you might have some good insight...

Three months ago I gave myself a repetitive stress injury/tendinitis in my arms from too much piano playing and hand-intensive crafts during quarantine. After a round of doctors and physical therapy I'm feeling mostly back to normal and my physical therapist has suggested trying some piano again. Of course I'm nervous about re-injuring myself and was hoping for some insight about...really anything. I'm self taught (somewhere around Intermediate, if it matters) so don't have anyone who knows piano playing to talk about this with. Can anyone recommend good warm ups, or exercises that might help prevent re-injury? I'm assuming when I start playing again it should be easy music in short sessions but I don't know any more than that.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Has anyone experienced any type of repetitive stress injury in their wrists, elbows, upper arms, and/or shoulders from driving long hours and/or lifting the loaded bags in and out of your car? If so, what is the antidote?

I have been working at starbucks a little over a month now, and for about the past week, I have been waking up with pain and numbness in my fingers. It's worst in my dominant hand, and when I move my pinky, it gets stuck down and when I move I back up, I feel a pop. This morning I heard a clicking sound too. It always goes away after I get up and start doing my stuff for the day, and I haven't had any actual pain at work. I'm only sixteen, so I don't understand why this would be happening. Have any of you experienced this? Does it go away with time or should I do something about I before it gets worse? I'm not in pain from it, it's just annoying and scared me a little the first time when I woke up and couldn't feel my hands.

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I don't know if this welcome here but as some back round, I've been a gamer my whole life, it's been the cause of much sorrow and joy in my life and regardless of my overindulgence I still find it a positive aspect in my life that I would never want to lose. Unfortunately 3 years ago I started to develop something similar to trigger finger, and I didn't give it enough time to rest and it has grown to be a problem that wont subside. I put off going to a doctors long enough for it to be a permanent issue. By the time I was willing to see one. I went to a hand specialist only to be told that I have something called Brachydactyly, which is the shortening of a bone particularly in the middle bone of my pinkies. Unfortunately the problem seems to not only affect my pinkies but on my right hand the ring and middle finger as well. The issue is, is that I lived 20 years, without it ever being a problem. One of my parents has it, unfortunately it seems that its dominant trait and has never caused her issues. I had been dealing with the finger locking for well over a year and was told, "It's just swelling take some advil and it will subside in 3 weeks" I looked at my doctor disheartened asking him if he was positive and was sent away without another thought. I listened to the advice, (not that I hadn't tried it before) and the problem has persisted. I've noticed that my tendons slide off my knuckle when trying close them which led me to believe that I have something called a(Saggital Band Rupture). I've looked into many hand care guides about gamers with similar problems but I was told they don't believe that I have trigger finger nor the tendon scarring associated with traditional trigger finger. I don't even know if, Saggital Band Rupture can cause locking or if it can even caused by repetitive stress injury of if its something only that can be caused by blunt trauma. I'm set to see a second hand specialist for a second opinion but I've become extremely disheartened as it has greatly reduced my grip strength and ability to play games as well as affect other parts of my life. The more I use my hands, the more they will lock up. I'm just wondering if there is anyone out there with similar experiences or information that could help. If this type of thing is not welcome here I apologize and will remove it.

I work overhire in a costume shop sewing mostly by hand for 8 hours a day. About 4 weeks ago because of the (mis)management and a newbie designer we have found ourselves very behind building a show. We were all asked to work extra hard and fast to compensate. I, like everybody else really picked up the pace and worked very hard on some physically taxing projects. One week ago my wrist started hurting while at work so I put some KTape on it and kept working.

It got worse and when it didn't feel better after the weekend I bought a wrist brace and emailed my manager saying that I would be out Monday and Tuesday to rest my wrist. He replied saying I could fill out an injury report when I was back. My wrist improved a bit after completely resting it for the two additional days. Today I went in, worked 8 hours and filled out an injury report. My wrist is about to where it was when I left last weekend again.

Tonight I got an email saying, "I turned in your injury report to Human Resources. You should definitely go to the doctor if you can. Also, take it easy at work by doing machine stitching and limiting the stress on your hands."

I cannot afford insurance. I cannot afford a costly doctor visit. I don't pay somebody to tell me to rest anyway. But I would love to compensated for the rest time I feel I need to take. My livelihood depends on the health of my hands. Where do I go from here?

Can I get a portion of the wages for the two days I missed before filing my injury report?

Currently Rust's input system favors unnatural keyboard use that will lead to repetitive stress injury for players. I think a lot of younger players don't realize it yet because, well, they're young. However, there have been many other games that had unnecessarily repetitive keyboard use that have literally resulted in people damaging their bodies and it was explicitly due to the choices of the developers. These games, the ones I know of, eventually changed their input systems and stopped pretending that hurting your hands was "skill" and instead allowed players to do very minimal automation to save their hands in real life.

Problem:

Having to hold shift down to sprint. Holding for a few seconds to continue sprinting was recently added but this is constantly broken by sidestepping and other small things that result in you constantly fighting with turning it back on again.

Solution:

Allow us to run by default and change walk to shift. This is how almost every other FPS game in the world works and for good reason. Could you imagine playing Counter Strike if you could only walk and had to push shift to run? And Counter Strike is on tiny maps!

Problem:

Having to hold forward to run. I actually feel like I remember there was a hands off autorun feature added, was this removed? The giant maps and resource gathering in Rust means you will almost constantly be running from one location to another in a straight line.

Solution:

Allow us to bind a key to autorun where we can toggle it on and off. Is there really some key design elements around not being able to run automatically? This doesn't really provide much benefit except saving your hands since you have to watch out for things anyway and continue steering.

Problem:

Having to hold crouch and mouse key to harvest. This one is more minor but over a long gaming session the pain really sets in.

Solution:

Either make a crouch toggle setting or change it so you don't have to crouch eventually to harvest ore nodes. Is there any big benefit to forcing players to crouch down halfway through harvesting? Just let us hit ore nodes from the same range we can start hitting them from.

Please, please make at least allow shift to walk and run default. You could be preventing thousands of injuries, this really isn't a joke.

I know you can use higher end keyboards, macros, sticking something to hold down a key, etc. None of this should be required and I'm sick of players offering this as a solution to very basic

Throw-away account for obvious reasons…

Awhile ago I started a job where I do a lot of repetitive tasks, including lifting heavy items. This job is via a temp-agency (that’s still who pays me, and I’ve worked for the same placement company since the start). After a period of time, my arm started to hurt. I notified my temp agency, and they had me fill out some ppwk for a possible injury, and they offered to have me see a doctor that they would schedule, and they would pay for. I was worried it might cause issues with employment, so I said that I thought I just needed a few days to rest the arm, and would get back to them if it persisted. They said that was fine.

After taking 4 days off (unpaid), the arm was feeling quite a bit better! I let them know that it was feeling better enough to return to work. I bought a support brace and wore that for a while. The issue mostly went away. Enough for me to continue working the job without major issue.

Ffwd to this past week, and the pain has returned. And it's causing a lot of pain and issues doing the job.

I have heard horror stories in the US that filing a workman’s comp claim for such an injury can lead to massive headaches. Will they really send someone to observe me doing yard work at my house to see if I’m faking it? Since it’s a temp-agency, will they find a reason to fire me that's unrelated to the injury? Or will they actually put me on some sort of temporary disability-pay and/or find me another job that doesn’t trigger the problem?

I realize that the alternative is to develop a potentially serious injury (if I haven’t already), so I am leaning towards filing one anyway. I just want to know what I can expect from this if I proceed? Will it affect future employment, either thru this agency or at other future jobs? If the horror stories I’ve heard are true, will this really haunt me forever?

Also, am I better off letting them know that the issue has returned, and going thru their doctor first? Or should I go to my own doctor out-of-pocket (I'm poor) and see what they say first? What protects me better?

I’m male, in my mid-late 30s, and have never had an issue like this before. But I can’t afford to have it cost me my job, or cost me a huge amount of pay. With that said, I also can’t afford to have it cost me the use of my arm for the rest of my life.

Thanks!

Maybe it's that I have pretty large hands, but if I use my phone too much my finger ligaments hurt. I'm in my mid-20's, so I know it's not age. I've been doing stretches and not using my phone as much as possible (even uninstalled reddit!), and it's working, but I think I'm the only person I know who has this problem.

Am I just unlucky and/or a phone junky (I'm both, actually)? Or does hand size affect this type of thing? Why don't I hear about this more often?

I am crafting low end items that would normally cost 5 morale. Now with the event its down to 2 morale. This means that if I keep crafting these low end items I would need to click 200 times to craft the item and 200 times to collect it... this is 400 clicks if you time every click correctly... and I dont. My timing is off and I tend to need 3 clicks every now and then for each item. Ooo... yeah... I got a small alt army... so multiply by N. I know this has been mentioned before and Im sure Cryptic is aware and working on a Craft x 10 option... anyway... my question is this?

Is it allowed to have 3rd party software do these clicks or is it considered cheating or a ToS violation?

If you stand in one place and hold down a skill, it will repeatedly cast as fast as it can. But if you then start moving (while still holding the skill), it won't cast until the instant you release the move key. So to cast spells as fast as possible while moving, you either need to spam the move key or spam your skills.

Making us spam the same keys over and over adds more pain than it does skill. And I don't see an argument that says simply moving is the best option in this case - if I wanted to simply move, I would press only the move key.

I frequently hear people say things like "I tried that build, but my arm/hand/wrist hurt too much from spamming the skill". So then they either venture into the gray area of key macros (risking a ban) or they are forced to use a different build.

TL;DR - Until you get a KEYUP event, keep casting the skill.

EDIT: Here's a simplified/rephrased explanation, because there seems to be some confusion.

What does it mean to hold the cast button? It means keep casting that thing until you can't cast it any more (then keep trying to cast it).

What does it mean to hold the move button? It means to keep moving until you run into something (and then keep trying to move).

So what does it mean to hold BOTH at the same time? Right now, that gives the same result as holding move. But I can already do that with the move option, so why would I want that? I'm saying holding both should mean "cast when you can cast; otherwise move".

Right now, you can work around this by repeatedly mashing the cast keys. If they made holding the cast keys functionally equivalent to mashing the cast keys, this problem goes away and saves a bunch of wear and tear on people's hands/arms.

This began as a post on "knitting goals." Ten minutes after I posted it, I realized that this modest, yet lofty list, was wholly dependent on the first item:

1. Deal with left wrist/arm pain that is likely repetitive stress related even if I have to completely re-learn how to write and knit.

For context, I'm a leftie, with, I'm now realizing, a horrible "hooked" handwriting position that has likely been giving me problems most of my life (I get really cranky when doctors' offices want me to fill out pages of forms by hand). Typing is better, but can also cause problems if I overdo it. On top of everything else, I just started grad school part time this semester, which means lots of article underlining (and more typing). I currently knit continental; can also knit English. Both hurt, as does using a knitting belt. Am currently looking at the Knitting Harlot's "Irish Cottage Knitting" method, but I suspect this is a much bigger issue. I own and have read Carson Demer's book; need to reread. Talked to my GP about potential carpel tunnel stress...she recommended a wrist cushion for my computer keyboard...which was ironic given that Demer actually recommends _against_ that!) I think the next step may be a specialist and/or occupational therapist.

I have a bad feeling that I know what I need to do, and an even worse feeling that it may involve not knitting for an extended period of time if not forever,..but has anyone else dealt with this and/or is currently dealing with it? Any recommended psychological coping strategies? ;-)

Until when/if I work this out, will be living vicariously through you all :-)

Anyone know if theres a good way to prevent this apart from stopping? Im really trying to get faster in several events and dont really want to slow my practice down.

So I'm 30 yrs old and probably put in about 25+ hrs a week playing on my Xbox and in the last 6mo I'd started feeling this pulling sensation in my left wrist (I'm right handed) and kind of dismissed it until it began effecting my gaming sessions. Did the old WebMD search and after determining it wasnt cancer I adjusted my gaming posture (was on a couch, now in my desk chair) and put a pillow on my lap to rest my hands on whilst i play. Comes and goes but not as bad.

Just wondering if any gaming warriors out there have experienced this and their own solutions. Cheers!