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My understanding is that as my viniferas are on 3309 rootstock there's nothing to worry about as they have the same protections from root damage American grapes have and as long as it's not a full blown infestation yhe leaves are relatively safe too. It was only one leaf and I removed it just for safety. The graft union is 2" above the soil so there's no roots growing from the scion, I should be good right? Any additional actions to take?
A little nervous as my vines are in their first year and I'm trying to give them as good a start as possible. I've got a wild American vine on a fence that's been there since before I moved to the house. It's always got phylloxera burrs but from all the natural abuse I've seen that thing suffer the 4 years I've lived here you couldn't kill it with a flamethrower. That makes me feel better, but it is native, so I imagine it's much hardier than the viniferas.
Hi!
I've got curious, what did great cognac houses we doing during phylloxera epidemic in France?
Can't find detailed info about it just general frases like "production of cognac was virtually shut down".
Please, advise resources or book to study this topic.
Thanks!
I'm reading a great book called "I'll Drink to That" about Beaujolais, and in the chapter about all the fungus, mildew, and phylloxera problems of the 1800's there is an interesting sidebar about "Noah" wine. Some French winegrowers planted American vines after their Vitis Vinifera died so they would have something to drink and sell, even though they all hated the flavor. One American vine called the "Noah" grew easily and produced a ton of grapes, so people delt with the bad flavor. It was a white wine, but people added coloring to make it a red wine if they so desired. A few years after it became popular, heavy drinkers of Noah were going blind or falling into dementia. Decades later the French government learned that fermenting Noah grapes created a side-product of pyschotropic ethers like wood alcohol, which is a violent toxin to the human nervous system. The vine was banned in 1930, but secretly remained in cultivation, and rumor has it some are still around today.
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I wanted to try some "before the phylloxera", or simply un-grafted wine. Most wine is grown on a root stock resistant to phylloxera, but that root stock is often considered to be not quite as good as wine grown without a graft. I'm not sure how true this is, so I wanted to try for myself.
Does anyone have any suggestions of wine to try? where to buy? what to expect?
am i totally off base here? or do you think there's some truth to this?
thanks!
I found out that the Spanish island of Mallorca completely gave up raising grape vines and instead planting almond trees after the Phylloxera epidemic. I'm just wondering. And the French department of Charente ditched grapes for cheese and butter due to the same reason. Are there any places that followed similar examples of Mallorca and Charlente after the Phylloxera epidemic?
I know this is /r/cognac, but /r/armagnac is a dead sub, and the two spirits share so much history.
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I was surprised to get a message back from the current (6th generation) owner of the distiller/negociant, Mme Castarède. Her note didn't come with much actual info, though, so I sent a list of questions directly to her, not expecting to hear back. To my surprise, she answered most of them right away. The most amazing thing to me is that it was probably distilled from pre-phylloxera wine, tying it to an almost mythic era in European gastronomic history.
I wrote to her in French, so I've included her reply as it came and my translation. Let me know if I've missed anything.
Dear Mrs. Castarède,
Thank you very much for your reply. We are surprised and happy to hear about the current value of this wonderful Armagnac.
If you have time, could you please answer the following questions about the bottle of 1900 Castarède?
Her reply:
Bonjour,
Normalement un Armagnac vieillit maximum 50 ans dans des fΓ»ts de chΓͺne .
Après il est transféré dans des bonbonnes de verrres ( demijohn) où l'Armagnac va continuer à évoluer très légèrement dans les chais .
Un Armagnac millésimé n'a le droit à aucun assemblage donc c'est 100 % le millésime 1900 ( année de la récolte mais souvent aussi année de la distillation puisque la distillation se fait la plupart du temps après la récolte ) .
Mon grand père achetait le vin, le distillait et le faisait vieillir .
Pour le 1900 que vous avez , je n'ai aucune tracabilitΓ© et mes ancΓͺtres ne marquait pas la date de mise en bouteille ce que je fais aujourdhui donc je ne peux pas rΓ©pondre Γ vos derniΓ¨res questions .
*Normalement le volume et le degrΓ© doivent Γͺtre marquΓ©s sur l'Γ©tiquette .. Je ne connais pas cette bouteille donc difficile pour moi mais je pense que c'est la conten
... keep reading on reddit β‘I recently got the chance to share a bottle of Chardonnay made from ungrafted vines affected by Phylloxera. Since Phylloxera takes 2-3 years to completely kill the vine, and the vine still produces grapes in that time (although a smaller amount), will the grapes from those 2-3 years taste different from previous years?
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