I was taught all growing up that I would create worlds, galaxies, and spirit babies with my eternal companion. I always thought that this was cool doctrine because there was actually a purpose to heaven and the afterlife. Progression didn't stop. My spouse still believes this and recently talked about how every galaxy could be controlled by a god. Even though I don't believe, it makes me sad that they are sneakily changing this unique doctrine.
But it got me thinking. Could this open doors for LGBTQ? I've heard so many TBMs justify the exclusion of the LGBTQ community because "how can they create spirit babies in heaven if there isn't a male and female" and "they can never be like heavenly father and heavenly mother if there isn't a mom and a dad."
Well, if we aren't creating spirit babies in heaven anymore, then why does it matter? If we are just going to be floating around in the afterlife then we all might as well be with who we actually love.
In much of the material i've read during my initiation i have come across the subject and find a pull to study and possibly pursue it as a long term goal in my own path. I have studied it and understand it a bit however i'm curious to learn more about it and how this is attained in forms of high magick.
In my own research it seems there are many forms and ways to pursue this but it has my interest, usually i only hear about it in slight ways or brief mention. Are there any good sources or texts which go further into detail about this and how it is done?
Yep.. it's me again!
As some of you may already know, I am firmly in the pro-deification camp for Yukine. While I do admit that I don't believe it to be the most likely outcome for him, I do believe that the possibility should not be counted out just yet (And it's always fun to think about! ๐). That being said, there is a sizeable array of things which could point to such a thing happening, ranging from the confirmed, to the possibilities. So let's have a look!
Let's start off with what we already know, and what has already been confirmed.
-- There's precadent for Deification to happen. Tenjin was originally a vengeful spirit, and was deified in order to appease him. This vengeful nature is mirrored by Yukine right now, and almost eerily so. He is currently fuelled by anger and revenge in wanting to hunt down the one who killed him (his own father), as well as being intent on learning that which was taken from him (the memories of his past life). If he isn't Restabilized or Destroyed, the way forward that the God Squad may find to save him may be his own Deification. Besides, he's not just going to forget about GGS now that he's stumbled upon it. As far as we know, there is currently no way for things to return to how they were before, so they might instead seek to do the next best thing.
-- Yukine is currently doing everything a God is supposed to do. And by that, I refer to Gods being supposed to serve those in the world below. With Yukine's new 'awakening', he's doing just that. He's extinguishing all causes of conflict, so those who are suffering are not left to fend for themselves, and those who are left behind have somebody to turn to. In helping those in need, he is very much active. And i don't see this changing any time soon, since even before the end of his human life, Yukine was always like that, helping those who would need it.
As Yukine admits himself, he's not a God and does not wish to be treated as such, but the kicker is the fact that he's not doing any of this on Father's orders, or even Yato's orders. Instead, he is doing all of this of his own volition. And that is what sets him apart. Never before have we seen someone who isn't even a God have such a gargantuan impact on the world below.
-- Yukine has both power AND influence. In his awakened state it's already been confirmed that Yukine can directly influence the souls of others. As mentioned in my previous post about his awakening, that is a terrifying power in itself sin
... keep reading on reddit โกDeclaring a dead pope a saint and declaring a dead emperor a god seem pretty similar. The ideas that a deceased person is worthy of a public cult and can intercede on behalf of those who pray to them also seem very pagan to me. Is this practice a continuation of pagan deification and worship?
Bringing things together, and returning to where the series began, we discuss how deification is holistic, affecting us both in body as well as in soul: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/henrykarlson/2021/05/uncreated-energies-part-six-deification-is-for-both-matter-and-spirit/
The channel doesn't explicitly claim to be occult or left hand path but it's pretty obvious for anyone in the know. Especially if you read the title of the 3rd one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr-1GNSMxMc
While many other periods of history are romanticized, medieval Indian history has been romanticized to ridiculous lengths. In movies, tv shows, pop culture etc., we usually see an over-reverence of past kings such as Shivaji and Rana Pratap. In these shows, there are excessive references to an imagined sense of pride i.e. Rajput pride and Maratha pride, eloquent expressions of valor and bravery, the duty of defense, patriotism, and love for the motherland, warriors singing songs about their Maratha or Rajput identity and marching away to lay their life for the safety of their people and women. Such kind of Rajput pride and Maratha pride is embodied and overly expressed by people, especially Hindu nationalists, even today. Monarchs of medieval India are held to near Godly status. Letโs look back at how what the reality would actually be back then.
In reality, this was not the case. Going out for war wasnโt a matter of pride back then, the way a family today is honored if a member of that family is in the military. What it actually was is a means for the soldier to earn his bread and feed his family. Soldiers might have been stirred up and motivated by their generals before a battle using references to some ideals of either religion, ethnicity, or land, but that was not what the entirety of their warrior lives revolved around. For them, war was a day job like any other, a day job that involved terror, horror, severe injuries, and death. If this was so horrific, what made them do it? The answer is either poverty, slavery, or being forced into fighting by a king, and for him.
The common people were nothing but chess pieces for the kings to help them attain and secure their power, their dominion, and their luxuries. Every king had only these three things on their mind. Unlike the common belief that people have today when they revere these people (even people in those days did not revere them), the actual monarchs had nothing to do with defending motherland or religion when they were out fighting or rather, making people fight for them. It was only to gain power and later to defend their own thrones and subsequently their dominion and lives of luxury. People make entire stories and fables to say they fought to preserve religion, nationhood from foreigners, and women from lustful men. Neither of these is true; religion was always used by kings only to give themselves a supposed divine right to rule (and this was true not just of Christendom but for every single
... keep reading on reddit โกSomeone using the restroom below me in my apartment complex (heard the fan turn on as I'm sitting in here) may be doing the same thing I am. If that is true, I am now participating in a deification tower with at least 1 other member. For high rise buildings or complexes with many floors sharing the same layout, this could be an event happening regularly!
I have 10 deification servants and I was wondering if it's possible to get 12 deification servants without paying and if possible how ?
Went down a Wikipedia rabbit hole recently.
Beforehand, the only two traditions I was more intimately familiar with were Theravada and Zen/Chan.
I knew vaguely what a bodhisattva is, that it's an enlightened being that chooses to stay behind to help others, but I was surprised to learn how, for example in the Lotus Sutra, the Buddha is said to proclaim that he is an eternal and omniscient being.
Not to mention Pure Land Avalokiteshvara and probably many more instances.
It seems like as the Buddhist tradition developed it moved away from Buddha simply being a man into the territory of a God-like being.
I'm probably missing a myriad nuances here so I would be happy to hear a defence against this claim to educate myself further.
*At least to anywhere near the same degree. I expect an answer might mention Quirinus, arguably a deification of Romulus, but that's only one example, and any illumination on that subject would also be welcome.
How was it that so many emperors, including Julius Caesar, who was only Dicator For Life, were able to be held to be ascended to Godhood after their death? How were people ok with this concept occurring where it hadn't before?
The popular culture example of Skyrim tells a story of mortail deification, which is a controversial issue. So why, in this reality, were Romans accepting of men being promoted to Godhood? I'm sure the republican optimates wouldn't mind branding the patrician founders as having ascended to Godhood, but that was never an occurance, so how did this change?
Many thanks in advance, amici historiae :)
In Maniwa City [็ๅบญๅธ] of Okayama Prefecture, thereโs an altar called Hanzaki-daimyลjin-sha [้ฏขๅคงๆ็ฅ] and as its name implies, this altar is known for its unique enshrinement of Japanese Giant Salamander (Andrias japonicus)ย orย โHanzakiโ [ใฏใใใ] in the local dialect.
According to the legend recorded inย โSakuyลshiโ [ไฝ้ฝ่ช] (1691) by Katsuaki Nagao [้ทๅฐพ ๅๆ] (n/a), this altar was established during theย Azuchi-Momoyama Period in order to comfort the spirit of a Giant Salamander that was said to be 10 meter (33 ft.) long. The death of this Giant Salamander was executed by the hand of a young man named Hikoshirล Mitsui [ไธไบ ๅฝฆๅ้] when the villagers saw help from him about the Giant Salamander that inhabited a deep natural pool near the village that constantly harassed the pedestrians and even devoured people/cattle at times. Alas,ย Hikoshirล jumped into the pool and killed the Giant Salamander with his sword. Since that day on, however, series of misfortunes haunted the villagers includingย Hikoshirล as his entire family members began to die one by one. Then the villagers came to an understanding that this is the fault of the Giant Salamanderโs curse hence, they built the Hanzaki-daimyลjin-sha and enshrined the salamander within the old Kokushi Shrine [ๅฝๅธ็ฅ็คพ] to comfort its soul.
Based on this legend, today in Maniwa City, thereโs a festivity known as Hanzaki Festival [ใฏใใใ็ฅญใ] every 7th and 8th of August where a giant wagon of illuminating salamander accompanied with traditional dancers parades around the city.
Hello everyone,
So I have been studying the Ahmadi religion for several months now and have gotten into various debates or dialogues with Ahmadis on their unofficial Discord server before I had suddenly been banned for spurious reasons.
One thing which I had noticed when speaking and debating with Ahmadis is how many of them happily ridicule amongst themselves Orthodox Muslims over some of the miracles that the vast majority of Orthodox Muslims have interpreted from the very beginning of Islam differently to how they shamelessly do so.
For example, many of these young Ahmadis I would dialogue with would openly amongst themselves mock the idea of Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู returning from the heavens to the point where they'd happily misrepresent the Orthodox Muslim belief and go as far as to label our conception of Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู as "superman" or "superhuman".
At the same time they would mock the idea of Orthodox Muslims believing that by the support and will of Allah ุนุฒู ูุฌููโ the son of Mary had really raised the dead (not metaphorically) or actually spoke as a newborn. In doing so, they usually in their mockery and arrogance charge the Orthodox Muslims without shame of committing SHIRK for continuing in persisting and believing in such beliefs.
It would get to the point where if someone tried to highlight to them that the above claims of a superhuman Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู or accusations of SHIRK are all based on misrepresentation of Orthodox beliefs that they would usually move onto other topics; namely their favourite topic, the so-called death of Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู .
It seems they do not care to mention that Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู would descend by relying on the support of two angels and by keeping hold of their wings rendering any comparison to "Superman" as fallacious since Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู would not be able to "fly without support" or "fly" at all.
They even care not that the claim of SHIRK is answered in the same Ayah's they and Christians misinterpret since the Ayah's they allude to 1.) usually include the words "with the will/permission of Allah" and 2.) Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู made supplications for such signs and miracles to occur and this would be something discernable if they were familiar with the true character of Isa ุนููู ุงูุณูุงู when he supplicated for signs/miracles to be shown at the request of his disciples. See Al-Ma'idah 5:112-113.
It should be noted if they prefer not to listen to me, then why not for once listen
... keep reading on reddit โกOK, bear with me here...
Each Primarch has a set of virtues and/or vices that most define them right? A few of them even have mirroring personalities like Corvus and Konrad or Dorn and Perturabo. They are all children of the Warp and seem to exemplify their conceptual traits and be quite singular about them. If that's the case, what if their battle was destined as a sort of a "survival of the ideologically fittest" and the surviving primarchs will define the traits of the deified Emperor, once he reaches critical mass and/or his body is destroyed. If indeed the Golden Throne anchors him in the Warp as well, it may be that once the Emperor's human(ish) psyche drifts away, perhaps a new being will form itself, basing traits on both the Emperor and the primarchs that won their battle of ideological supremacy.
I recently finished the book The Rape of Man and Nature by Philip Sherrard. In short, it is an Orthodox criticism of Western Christianity. One of the claims that Sherrard makes is that by moving from a Platonic to Aristotelian framework, subtle changes happened in our understanding of Christian Mysteries. Most importantly, for Aristotle a Substance can only have one essence or substantial form. Whereas for Plato a substance or an individual thing can participate in multiple Forms, while still remaining a single unified thing.
To be brief, the Incarnation, the Eucharist, and Deification (among other things) are thought of, on the Platonic view, as a single thing full participating in two realities. Christ is fully human and fully divine. The Eucharistic meal are fully bread/wine and the Body/Blood of Christ. A saint (a deified person) is both fully human and fully participating in/living the Life of God, and ultimately this is a participation by us in the Incarnation of Christ.
But when Aristotle became the guide for doing theology, our understanding changed. Christ is still fully human and fully divine, but it's seen as a Mystery that is incomprehensible and not something that happens in other contexts. The Eucharist is now seen as just the Body/Blood transubstantiated, and the bread and wine are merely species of appearance. Because the Incarnation is seen as something more or less restricted to Christ's historical life, deification has it's traditional explanatory underpinnings removed.
So, I want to read what Aquinas has to say on Deification, but couldn't find a section in the Summa where he dealt with it explicitly (I only have the McDermott concise translation). Can anyone point me to Aquinas' writings on deification?
Has anyone else read Sherrard's book? Any thoughts on it? I gave a very brief summary here, he says a lot more, and says it a lot better than me. I found the book very interesting though. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.
The trailers are just perfect, only scenes extracted 100.1% from the book, the visuals are stunning and I even love the departure from the "three-piece mouth" for Shai-hulud (the comparisons with Sarlacc I've seen around are shallow, to say the least, as it actually remembers me of blue whales and tardigrades).
But only after reading the book for the first time you get to understand the Atreides aren't heroes, right? At least not perfect ones. And thus you realize it ain't one more story of a white boy savior in a campbellian hero's journey.
That's the worse thing that could happen to this movie, after seeing the trailer: being a hero movie.
Can Villeneuve pull this off rightly so?
What do you think about this?
I've been doing a deep dive into the doctrine of Deification. I think many people would be surprised at how far back it goes and at the Mesopotamian context behind it... Truly, this is an important and beautiful part of the Gospel. I've also been looking into how others explain deification and I can honestly say their explanation is... well... ๐ค I'll just say it's lacking!
