Classical Arabic Puns

Imagine a person starts talking with you in Quranic Arabic. How would you react/feel and would you easily understand it?

The full quote:

> When we realize that an educated Japanese can hardly frame a single literary sentence without the use of Chinese resources, that to this day Siamese and Burmese and Cambodgian bear the unmistakable imprint of the Sanskrit and Pali that came in with Hindu Buddhism centuries ago, or that whether we argue for or against the teaching of Latin and Greek [in schools,] our argument is sure to be studded with words that have come to us from Rome and Athens, we get some indication of what early Chinese culture and Buddhism, and classical Mediterranean civilization have meant in the world's history. There are just five languages that have had an overwhelming significance as carriers of culture. They are classical Chinese, Sanskrit, Arabic, Greek, and Latin. In comparison with these, even such culturally important languages as Hebrew and French sink into a secondary position.

My own pick for a "sixth classical language" would be Persian, for its role as the second language of Islam and historical status as the prestige language of an enormous area, from Istanbul to Bengal and Xinjiang.

Perhaps Pali would be another candidate (although the Theravadin world is much smaller than the historical Persianate world), although Sapir seems to subsume it under Sanskrit.

Hey there, I'm looking for a friendship either you have questions about my mother language or looking for a friendship dm me. I'm almost 18m in my first year in college and I don't have lotta ppl to chat with, and I love music, movies, reading and sports. Thanks!

Something soft, light hearted and that isn’t heavy. I love Classical Arabic music but sometimes the songs are too long and the singer’s voice is too dramatic. For example I love Alf Leyla by Oum Kulthum, but it’s not something I can just jump into. Ghanili Shwe by the same artist is more light hearted and an easier listen.

Any suggestions?

Salam. So I have studied Classical Arabic in school for a few months but before I take the next courses, I’d like to study independently for a year or so. Are there any resources that anyone can recommend? I have a wonderful textbook and can read and write fine, but I’d like material that will help me with my listening and pronunciation. Please let me know.

I have been looking around the internet for information, and different websites keep saying they are the same. Why are there called different things if they are the same thing? And if they have differences, why don't websites simply list the differences between them? Sorry if I didn't find the website that actually explains this clearly, and not in some ambiguous way.

First poem is this

قــال لـي :كيف أنت ؟ قلت عـليل

سهـر دائم وحزن طـويل

وقـلـب حائر فيها قـتيل

وعيـون أقسمت بالله أنهـا لي الـسبيـل

فـكيف ترضى لـي أن أكون بعينيها ذليـل

أن أنـسى حبا عشت به زمنا طويل

قـل لي أنت كيف سأكون من دونها جميل

فـهـي مذ دخلت تـاريـخي وأنا بها العليل

عـينان سبحان الخـلاق تذيب الـصخر لو نظرت تصبح قـتيل

ووجه كـالبدر أضاء أيامي دونما نذير فـكيف ذبت بها لاتسلني فـأنا لا أملك جوابا لسؤال مستحيل

Second one is this :

أشاب الصغير وأفنى الكبير .:. كرُّ الليالي ومَرُّ العِشي

إذا ليلةُ هَرمت يومها .:. أتى بعد ذلك يومٌ فَتِي

نَروُحُ ونَغدُو لِحَاجَاتِنا .:. وحاجةُ من عاش لا تنقضي

تموتُ مع المرء حَاجاتُهُ .:. وتبقى له حاجةٌ ما بقي

إذا قُلتُ يوماً لمن قد ترى .:. أروني السريَّ أروُكَ الغَني

ألم ترَ لُقمانَ أوصى بنَيهِ .:. وأوصيتُ عمراً ونعمَ الوَصي

بُنَي بدا خِب نَجوى الرجال .:. فكُن عند سركَ خِبَّ النجي

وسرك ما كان عند امرئٍ .:. وسر الثلاثة غيرُ الخفي

فكُنْ كابنِ لَيلٍ على أسودٍ .:. إذا ما سوادٌ بِليلٍ خُشي

فكل سوادٍ وأن هِبتَهُ .:. من الليل يُخشى كما تَختشي

أردِ محكمَ الشعر إن قُلتَه .:. فإن الكلامَ كثيرُ الروي

كما الصمتُ أدنى لبعض اللسان .:. فبعض التكلم أدنى لِعي

وَدَع النفس اتباع الهوى .:. فما للفتى كلُّ ما يشتهي

> O fools, awake! The rites ye sacred hold

> Are but a cheat contrived by men of old

> Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust

> And died in baseness-and their law is dust.

Abū al-ʿAlāʾ al-Maʿarrī (973-1057)

The Classical Arabic naming system is long (e.g Abu Bakr ‘Abd Allah ibn Abi Quhafah al-Siddiq al-Taymi al-Qurayshi) but he would be referred to as Abu Bakr al-Siddiq and when talking while his name has already been mentioned you’d say just Abu Bakr? So how do I know which name to go by like I could be Abu Fulan al-Fulani, Abu Fulan Ibn Fulan, so how do I know which name to use?

I know modern Arabic and i am still learning it. (i don't have an arabic keyboard that is why i am writing in english) And i also want to learn classical Arabic to understand Quran better.

I learned that the Arabic that was spoken by the Qureysh is the language of the Quran and that version of Arabic (classical arabic i guess) is lost after Islam spread and people came to Mekka and Medine. (Correct me if i am wrong.)

you can respond in arabic but i only know fasih and don't know any lahja arabic

In Classical Arabic you’ll find names like “Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr” and “‘Ali ibn Abi Talib” Abu Bakr and Abu Talib and Kunyas yet they’re being connected with the son’s nasab, so can a nasab be combined with a nasab? and Can a Kunyah be combined with a Kunya (E.g Abu Abi Fulan, Ibn Ibn Fulan)?

The Giants(In Arabic "Ammalik=Giants") are called the (Kan'anian Tribes = Some people call them the Ammurian Tribes) (They were not original Arabs they call them in Arabic (Al'Arab Al-Mos'Tariba = Literally it means the Arabs who become Arabs lol))were said to be from 300-400cm in height. They are the decedents of Sam(One of the sons of Noah) to be specific (Decedents of Amlik son of Loath son of Ar'm son of Sam son of Noah ) The Jews in Mosis era feared them and refused god's order to fight them (According to the book) So god punished them for 40 years (By getting lost in the desert and not entering the holy land) After the death of Mosis. Their leader and god's prophet was Yosha son of Afrim son of Yousuf (Josef ) Son of Yacob (Jacob). by god's order Talot become the king of the Jews in that time the Jews faced the Giants and Dawwod (David) Killed Jaloot (Goliath) Talot made David a king beside him.
It is a very interesting story.

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I'm doing a thesis on the adaptation of modern words (like, anglicisms or technology-related) in arabic and I need some words that were originally from classical arabic and became archaic, but have been reincorporated with a modern meaning (like هاتف for telephone). Arabic is not my native language, so I was hoping someone here knew about any words like that. Thank you in advance! (English isn't my first language either so sorry for any typos)

I can recite the holy Quran but don't understand the meaning. So I made up my mind to learn classical Arabic (Quranic Arabic) and was looking for free online courses as I don't live in any Arab regions. Based on my recent researches, the following free online resources seem to be the best as of today while I am writing this post:

• Book Resource ----->> Madina Books by Shaykh Dr. V. ‘Abdur-Raheem.
• Al Ajrumiyah book
• Videos / DVDs
• Online Content based on the medina books

Now I am asking for some feedback on these resources from those who have already used these resources.

Moreover, You can suggest other free online resources if you think those are of better quality regarding content or methodologies. I will update the post and add those resources too so that others beginners like me can get help. Thanks in advance.

Not pirated please.

I'm a student and I first became interested in learning Arabic because I wanted to read Arabic poetry (cause I heard the language was beautiful especially in literature). However, I also thought that it would be more useful for me to learn an Arabic dialect so that I could communicate with people (nevermind that I don't think there is anyone near me who speaks Arabic).

Would it be easier to learn one first and then the other? Or just go with one?

Hello! I couldn't find much information online about this. I'm interested in learning how to read Classical Arabic, but I'm struggling to find resources suitable for a non-Arabic speaker.

In the next five years, I plan to do a Phd regarding medieval France. Lots of the intellectual history in Western Europe relied on Arabic translations of Ancient Greek, as well as original writings from Baghdad and various Islamic scholars and scientists. A knowledge of classical Arabic, even if I never speak it, will help me comprehend manuscripts and writings in their original language.

But I'm unsure what suitable resources there are, and tbh, where I should start!

I'm also learning French and Latin right now. Enjoy your weekend, and I appreciate any advice on learning Classical Arabic.

So I've studied the three madina books by Doctor Abdur Raheem, while I understand the gammer rules Alhumdulillah, I'm struggling to get into the flow of the language, as in understanding it direct without having to translate it into English in my head.

So can anyone here recommend any news channels / cartoons / anime / Islamic talks to help me with this? I want to try and engross myself in classical/Quranic Arabic to really force my mind to understand it naturally, I have been watching the conversation videos from lqtoronto but was also hoping for something more to become more fluent in the language and when reading the Qur'an understanding it directly in Arabic.

Thank you!

Hi! I was recently told that the rule "all non human plurals are treated as singular feminine" is not always true for classical and Quranic Arabic. Is this true and if so, what are the specific rules for classical Arabic?

I've searched for a detailed explanation of said rules but have only found snippets here and there.

Any help is much appreciated :)

The modern realisation of ض is a pharyngealised د but the classical sound for ض was probably a lateral fricative or affricate, the consensus seems to be that it was a pharyngealized voiced alveolar lateral fricative 📷[ɮˤ].

Are there any reciters who use this sound for ض? Thanks in advance.

I run a Youtube channel and website which presents Arabic poetry in English. Would anyone be interested in working with us as n editor and translator? If you have proficiency in both Arabic and English and can understand classical Arabic poetry, you will be a great fit! Please send me a pm.

Hi, what is the difference between classical and modern standart Arabic? It is my understanding that MSA and classical share virtually identical grammar and the difference only amounts to how common certain words or sentence structures are. Is this correct? Are there any grammar differences?

Imagine a person starts talking with you in Quranic Arabic. How would you react/feel and would you easily understand it?