Canticle Of Canticles Puns

This concept is briefly touched on in A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky and it’s been rolling around in my head ever since. At some point someone suggested A Canticle for Leibowitz as being about this concept, and it was a pretty good read, but I’m hungry for more. Hopefully something a little more...contemporary?

Favourite book in the genre is the road fwiw. New to the genre overall.

I've heard about using these together to get 4" charges but as you use the litany before movement phase wouldn't your DW knights not be on the board yet to use it on?

Come gather now,
Ye perithean patriarchs,
Ye voluting matriarchs,
Ye pure penumbrae of old,
Ye that see through a screen in suff'ring anticipation,
Ye consecrated men, last of your kind,

Come, come and gather atop the descending pinnacle,
See how these slopes grow ever distant from the Holy Black,
See how the pitch becomes scarce,
See how the Ovratus' stones grow fewer in kind,

This Mount was an act of mercy,
It was a gift born of sacrifice,
It was a gift upheld by sacrifice,
Now the sacrifice must be two-fold,
Within and without they must honor the Five,
While only memory and artifacts shall remind them of higher realities,

But now, let us watch and wait, and be here for a little longer,
Before we too return to the heights that become ever distant,
To work out the Dark Providence in occulted ways,

That at least a few may stay strong,
That at least a few may be assumed,
That at least a few may bear the holy title:

Children of K'Ad

I'm still on the fence about what a collapse will look like, although I do agree we're headed for a clusterfuck of trouble.

I labeled this as adaptation because I ask if a collapse will really be the end of everything, or just part of the ebb and flow of civilisation? These books, although dystopian are still hopeful.

We should still try and act to mitigate what we can, or even save what part of our civilisation deserves to be saved. But if civilisation collapses, will that just be a new chapter for humanity to learn and grow?

I really want to hear what you all have to say. I'll be the guy hoarding, copying or memorising books so they aren't lost.

The bioweapons from these douchebags that strive to control everyone remind me of this passage from "A Canticle for Leibowitz":

>It was said that God, in order to test mankind which had become swelled with pride as in the time of Noah, had commanded the wise men of that age, among them the Blessed Leibowitz, to devise great engines of war such as had never before been upon the Earth, weapons of such might that they contained the very fires of Hell, and that God had suffered these Magi to place the weapons in the hands of princes, and to say to each prince: ‘Only because thine enemies have such a thing have we devised this for thee, in order that they may know that thou hast it also, and fear to strike.’
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>But the princes, putting the words of their wise men to naught, thought each to himself: ‘If I but strike quickly enough, and in secret, I shall destroy those others in their sleep, and there shall be none to fight back; the earth shall be mine.’
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>Such was the folly of princes, and there followed the Flame Deluge…

In the AdMech Codex it's stated that you can pick a canticle OR roll for it, and I frequently see players rolling for Canticles (especially when Cawl is in use), but my question is... why?

Why not just pick whichever Canticle you need if you have the option, instead of rolling for it?

Not "Traditional," but good and beautiful, which is its own tradition, the wonderful Grail translation of Luke 1:78-79 used in the Liturgy of the Hours:

In the tender compassion of our God, the dawn from on high shall break upon us, to shine on those who dwell in darkness and the shadow of death, and to guide our feet into the way of peace.

Do I role/choose 2 sperate canticles or does the one cover all of my admech forces. If it's only one how does Mars work then since there's 2.

The Nephilic Canticles

^(The Nephilic Canticles are a collection of hymns written in a period of time conspicuously short when contrasted with historic religious texts of the same nature. Perhaps the Nephilim created them themselves, or perhaps in the confusion of the Forgetting some prominent poets were recruited for the purpose. We will probably never know.)

^(--- from “The Canticles — for the discerning human,” part of a Craterfolk series on pro-Nephilim propaganda)

The Star of Ishtar, a symbol commonly used to represent the Nephilim.

Zeroth Nephilic Canticle

^(The Zeroth Nephilic Canticle is an addendum to the canon by a Craterfolk scholar, occasionally published in the City with lines 9-14 revised. In Craterfolk-circulated editions of the Canticles, a prose introduction is included:)

^(“A feeble breeze blows from the South, bringing with it whispered stories of lives lived far away and long ago. Once, this was not our home. Once, we were free. Now, all we have is this life, so, please, enjoy these lies and find beauty in them where you will.”)

Upon our tranquil plains, a vagabond

Once chanced to roam. She saw the barren land

As holy, sacred ground, and grew so fond

Of Ishtar’s dunes that every grain of sand

Was numbered in her mind. Each weathered stone,

Each nomadbee, yea, each Ishtari thing,

She loved with love so beautiful it shone

With radiance to make creation sing.

Yet all that’s good seems sure to disappear—

If not today, perhaps tonight—and, on

The day we all awake to find our fear

Confirmed, no faith or prayers built thereupon

Will save us from the truth: this vagabond

Has stol’n our hearts and with them she’ll abscond.

First Nephilic Canticle

^(Colloquially known as the “Song of the Sage-fly.” To be chanted by a priest of the Sage-fly and accompanied by a rapid, percussive beat. The “Sage-fly!” refrain should be shouted by all present.)

Sage-fly!

Sage-fly!

Wise and just!

Your counsel always will we trust!

In our moment of betrayal,

You arrived—a timely angel!

Sage-fly!

Sage-fly!

So sublime!

Magnanimous in giving time!

When our worries overwhelm,

You steer our broken, mortal helm!

Sage-fly!

Sage-fly!

Verily,

We worship now so gleefully!

First and brightest Nephilim—

*A flaming, beck’ning, ho

Especially v. 71, 74, "being saved from enemies... those who hate us." v. 75, the ability to serve God without fear (resultant from being an occupied nation.) It's also very nationalistic.

This all makes sense assuming the Messiah will be a political king and vindicate Israel against her enemies.

Not so much when Israel is vanquished and the temple razed.

Luke is believed to have been written post 70AD. Does this "prophecy" pre-date 70AD? Why would Luke have included it?

TIA

68 “Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he has looked favorably on his people and redeemed them. 69 He has raised up a mighty savior[a] for us in the house of his servant David, 70 as he spoke through the mouth of his holy prophets from of old, 71 that we would be saved from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us. 72 Thus he has shown the mercy promised to our ancestors, and has remembered his holy covenant, 73 the oath that he swore to our ancestor Abraham, to grant us 74 that we, being rescued from the hands of our enemies, might serve him without fear, 75 in holiness and righteousness before him all our days. 76 And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Most High; for you will go before the Lord to prepare his ways, 77 to give knowledge of salvation to his people by the forgiveness of their sins. 78 By the tender mercy of our God, the dawn from on high will break upon[b] us, 79 to give light to those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.

I am aware this would be more of a /40klore post, but regarding the fact that these are used in the tabletop and currently (to my knowledge) they don't exist or haven't been described (or at least I haven't found any from the rulebook table).

I decided to make some homebrew canticles (not the rules, but the actual 'Chant')

I mean, I found some litanies and other chants but couldn`t find the 6 ones we use in the tabletop, and I really like the feeling you get when an ork player screams WAAGHH!!! and that kind of fluffy stuff you can integrate to your gameplay without breaking any rules.

So, It is also important to know, English is not my native tongue but I would really like to change these to old english ye'olde stuff, but I'm bad at that stuff. At least I didn't rhymed anything with the "you, he, my" etc so the changes won't dramatically change the structure of the rhyme. So here it goes:

(1) Incantation of the Iron Soul

With hammer and faith our bodies were forged

Percentage of failure won't falter our course

With rust and glories we will march to the forge

No weapons will sunder our cast iron soul.

(2) Litany of the Electromancer

Our copper veins flow with devotion

Our holy circuits will punish your flesh

Low capacity will lead to destruction

House this power and grant yourself rest.

(3) Chant of the Remorseless Fist

Iron, steel and copper, components of our fists

Strengh, speed and power will suffice for our deed

Grant us, Oh Great Machine-God, the honour to become

Proud of the compiling, our remorseless fists have done.

(4) Shroudpsalm

Forbid lux-data to be captured by flesh

Forbid our foes to gaze upon your tools of devotion

Oh, Machine-God, We are your instruments of faith

For you program our every thought and motion.

(5) Invocation of the Iron Might

Our digital minds command our analog bodies

Let your energy overload our iron-forged blows

Set our systems to override preservation of bionics

Let us manually install the iron might upon our foes!

(6) Benediction of the Omnissiah

Our aim will split atom and atom

Our minds will make picoseconds into eons

Our gaze will watch photon by photon

We are part of the Machine-God as He is part of us.

 

 

edits: sorry for the tons of edits, I'm bad at formatting.

Couldn't think of a better day to be honest. After being reminded that "I am dust and to dust I shall return" at mass, I started the third and final section of the book. I was completely engrossed and read it in one sitting. All three stories were good, but the last one blew me away. The theological, moral, and philosophical discussions within a suspenseful, apocalyptic setting was unlike anything I had read before. I thought the writing in all of three stories was great. Each one had funny writing, and each one had moments that my stomach drop. (After the end of part 1 I had to stop because I was just crushed.) I think that this book just "gets" Catholicism like nothing else I've read. Overall, this may be my favorite book now.

-Aurelia II Canticle of Cleansing Initiation

O' cleanse this Machine, Omnissiah!

 *pour prescribed powder quantity into cups*

By your divinity, allow this Machine Initiation!

 *affix cups into ports firmly*

-Aurelia II Canticle of Cleansing Running

By the Will of the Omnissiah, Be Cleansed ONCE!

 *upon completion of canto, initiate flow*

By the Will of the Omnissiah, Be Cleansed! (X1)

 *upon completion of canto, disengage flow*

By the Grace of the Machine God, Be Cleansed TWICE!

 *upon completion of canto, initiate flow*

By the Grace of the Machine God, be Cleansed! (X2)

 *upon completion of canto, disengage flow*

By the Divinity of the Motive Force, be Cleansed THRICE!

 *upon completion of canto, initiate flow*

By the Divinity of the Motive Force, be Cleansed! (X3)

 *upon completion of canto, disengage flow, and remove cups*

-Aurelia II Canticle of Cleansing Finale

Rejoice, Aurelia II, for you have been cleansed of internal filth! Purge thine self of the sacred powders!

 *upon completion of canto, initiate the flow by the leftmost button, allow to flow to completion of cycle, and repeat six (6) times, making for seven (7) total*

 *proceed to polish the machine's shell to a glossy finish, as her Machine-Spirit will be thankful for the attentive care*

With the recent announcement at LVO for the new supplement for AdMech, I surmise we will see a new change to canticles in the new supplement in a similar manner as Space Marine Doctrines.

I'm hopeful for a new codex, as I made the switch to mono ad-mech instead of Imperium a few months ago - but I won't hole my breath for it at the moment.

My speculation comes from the recent Inquisition supplement, and as we know - GW works about 2 years ahead of the current game model/rules wise. From the Inquisition supplement when you take an inquisitor unit in your army:

"That Inquisitor unit does not prevent other units in your army benefiting from Detachment abilities (e.g. Chapter tactics), and does not prevent abilities that require every model in your army to have that ability (e.g. Combat Doctrines, Canticles of the Omnissiah)."

Currently, the only restriction to Canticles of the Omnissiah is that all units in a given detachment need to have this ability, not restricting you to just Ad-Mech to benefit from it. Based on that I would imagine there's going to be a re-design of canticles. Presumably making them stronger than they are now. Thoughts on this?

Almost heaven, Holy Terra,

Golden palace, golden holy armor...

My life is over, death and foul disease,

But by the Holy Emp'ror, bring them to their knees!

GELLAR FIELDS, TAKE ME HOME

TO THE WORLD, I BELONG

HOLY TERRA, HUMAN MOTHER

TAKE ME HOME, GELLAR FIELDS

All her forces, gather round her

All Custodes, Astartes and the Guardsmen...

Bright and shining, beacon in the sky,

Kill the foul xeno, hear our battle cry!

(Chorus)

I hear His voice, in the final charge He calls me,

Commissar reminds me of my Lord, far away!

Driving in the Baneblade, I think I should've died,

Yesterday, yesterday!

(Chorus)

Has anyone read this 1960 SF novel? The game Fallout is heavily inspired by it, but I think it also has some parallels to the mathic world, especially the first parts of Anathem, and also Seveneves to some degree. Give it a try, it's not as easy to read as Stephensons stuff, but it's a good yarn and an insight into 1960's SF.

#60 YEAR OLD SPOILERS AHEAD

It features monastic life in preservation of ancient science threatened by outside society, a bearded religious man of inestimable old age, huge leaps of time forward and warring factions of post-apocalyptic earth.

So if I have a detachment of sisters and a detachment of admech, can the sisters use sacred rites and the admech use canticles? I feel like the answer is yes, and I know that canticles won't apply to sisters or vice versa for rites. I just wanted to get a clear idea of how the detachment rules work with that stuff.

So I was listening to a podcast and the guy said he was picking his canticles but was going second in the match. He picked his canticles before the first turn player did anything. He also played a stratagem to give his knights the ability to receive canticles as well.

I always thought you had to do canticles at the start of your turn. Meaning that in the first battle round you do it at the start of your turn and if you went second then you didn’t get them for the first players turn.

I recently read A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jr. and loved it, reread it almost immediately. The themes, concept, the language and way it was written, everything. I'm far from an avid reader, more of an occasional one, so I don't have much of a backlog. I'm honestly not sure if the way it was written is more indicative of Miller as an author or of the genre/time period but either way I really enjoyed it.

I also loved American Gods by Neil Gaiman. It's not written in the same flowery language, is obviously more modern, and addresses some different topics, but I think there are still similarities.

I remember reading some older 19th (maybe early 20th) century Sci-Fi along the same lines and enjoyed them; I just don't remember what they were.

So any recommendations for something like this? Thanks for the help :)