Is Scouring of the Shire in Lord of the Rings: Return of the King good/great writing?

Scouring chapter seems to hold more popularity among the really diehard fans of Tolkien who think he could do no wrong than the casual readers. I liked what Tolkien was trying to convey: the danger is not ended even after the big evil is defeated, even home is not safe. But I dont feel it was executed well. something about it irks me. Perhaps it's Saruman's cartoonish portrayal or it's the Hobbits cracking jokes like Marvel superheroes, throwing bathos here and there or that it comes up too late in the story for me to give a damn.

I was hoping to get an answer from dispassionate readers not the aforementioned diehard fans. Is Scouring of the Shire good/great writing? Can you elaborate why or why not?

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[Spoilers main] What will be the scouring of the shire in ASOIAF?

I have an idea that Bran becoming king could end up as the bittersweet ending we keep talking about. What if the last twist ends up being that Bran does become king, but that there is a lingering doubt about how he will rule and use his powers.

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We played through β€˜the Old Mill’ scenario from The Scouring of the Shire book. Lots of fun and a very quick game! Enjoy 😊 youtu.be/YxafXgXU0AU
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"So that's your tone, is it? Change it, or we'll change it for you. You little folk are getting too uppish. Don't you trust too much in the Boss's kind heart. Sharkey's come now and he'll do what Sharkey says." -- The Lord of the Rings, Book VI, Chapter VIII: The Scouring of the Shire
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TKE: β€œScouring of the shire” as conclusion rather than inciting incident + Aragorn’s tax policy

Would Aragorn’s tax policy have been to kill all the nobles so that the smallfolk were generationally free of levies? And why have all the magic and fantasy elements if ASOIAF is much more actively a political-philosophical tract about how power and wealth corrupts the β€œgood” and β€œevil” equally?

Our noble heroes have all spent a great deal of time exploring the relationship between humiliation and humility. Are none of those lessons worth bringing into leadership?

Is there no good governance at all? Are there no organizing principles on which a just society can be based?

Furthermore, GRRM has said he enjoyed the dirty soap opera view of history. Why take such a personal and nearly Jamesian approach to storytelling only to jolt the audience with the reminder that life is short and death stalks in on stocking feet.

Because we fucking get that information every day on the news.

Why do we need to experience this trauma on HBO or on the page, to no visible reward, when we could just turn on a news broadcast and see it for true?

tldr: if GRRM endgame was ultimately to remind us all to feel our daily dose of ennui and Hobbesian realism, he should have gone into news not fiction

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Let's discuss the new upcoming heroes for Scouring of the Shire !

(Sorry for any bad english)

I'd like to come back to the pics of the new heroes that have been shown at Warhammer Fest :

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2019/05/breaking-games-workshop-middle-earth.html?m=1

I think out of the new heroes, both Ruffians and Hobbits, we can identify a bunch.

First up are the Ruffian heroes. The only named one I can think of is Bill Ferny, an despicable fellow from Bree. Well what do you know, the big guy in the middle, with the bald head, red beard and scared eye, looks a lot like the character Bill Ferny Sr. from the Hobbit Trilogy : https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Bill_Ferny_Sr.

He's one of the two fellows who tries to attack Thorin at the Prancing Pony in the opening scene of Desolation of Smaug.

To me it looks like GW took Bill Ferny Sr's design from the movies for the canon character.

One of the two others is probably Harry Goatleaf, the keeper of the gate in Bree, who joined the Ruffians. Even if they go for his look in the movies, I couldn't tell for sure which of the two left it is (maybe the guy on the right, who seems to have a hood and is more lightly armed than the guy on the left. The guy has a hood on in the movie).

I have no idea who the last Man is, I assume a new original character, but perhaps I'm missing someone from the books or movies. There is an unnamed Bandit chief in the book, maybe that's him.

Now let's move on to the Hobbits. 8 new heroes ! With all the Hobbits we meet in the Shire through the books, I would assume we know most, if not all of these guys already. They are probably all actors of the Scouring of the Shire to some extent.

I'll present my guess in the order of the pictures on the site linked above.

1 : Will Whitfoot, quite obviously. Top hat and fine clothes, plus the medal, point to him being the mayor. He's also described to be a rather fat man, so that fits. The paintjob presents him with white hair and foot hair, so while that's not specificly said in the book it's what comes to mind when hearing his name. The Mayor is also one of the first to oppose Sharku, so makes sense he's a hero for the Scouring of the Shire.

2 : No idea. Looks like a young and and determined fellow. Maybe one of Tolmam Cotton's sons ?

Now, whoever he is, the model is holding a stone, ready to be thrown. Maybe his special rule will allow him and/or other Hob

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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Anyone care to talk about the Scouring of the Shire?

I'm currently finishing up RotK right now and have gotten to the Scouring of the Shire. It's a re-read so feel free to discuss spoilers if need be.

It feels like this whole narrative is Tolkien really driving home his distaste for communism/socialism as a whole. He talks about "sharers" who do more taking than they do sharing as well as "sheriffs" who are deputized by the dozen. He also alludes to the importance of a well armed populace. With Frodo, Merry, Sam and Pip being the only Hobbits with weapons this really gave them an advantage over the brigands who took over control of the Shire.

But I was wondering if there's any more direct parallels to real world events depicted in this chapter that I'm missing? Was Sharkey supposed to remind us of someone in particular? Grima?

It just feels like JRRT is putting social commentary on blast as he wraps up his epic (and I love it)

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(Spoilers Extended) The Scouring of the Shire, or How the Finale Could Turn Out to be Brilliant After All

When I finished the finale last night, I got really excited, even though I felt disappointment towards Season 8 of a Game of Thrones. Everything felt wrong to me, but in a suspenseful way. I felt like the episode was setting up a scene like the red wedding, a scene where causes come together and the effect is catastrophe. The reason I was excited was because I think the finale was a darker, GRRM play on the Lord of the Rings, and his Scouring of the Shire hasn’t happened yet.

The biggest thing that made me doubt what I saw was Bran. I’ve always had suspicions that Bran wasn’t just a Stark anymore. Maybe he’s being controlled or just influenced by the CotF, or the Great Other. What was weird to me was that Bran has said multiple times how he doesn’t want anymore, he doesn’t want to be Lord of Winterfell or even the King. Then why did he go to Kings Landing? Why did he tell Jon that he was β€œexactly where he should have been”? In the finale he alluded to the possibility that a lot of this was orchestrated by him, at the very least that he influenced Jon to Kill Dany and allow a vote for him to become king.

My theory is this: This is GRRM’s ending, but is the ending of the LOTR movies (by that I mean this would be the part where Aragorn becomes King and the movie comes to a close). His dark play on that is to have Bran become King, and everything to be horribly wrong. Bran played the Game of Thrones to put himself at the top. He created the chaos in the seven kingdoms for some mysterious, maleficent reason that I suspect has to deal with the CotF. The small council, assuming Tyrion has lost his touch, is full of inexperienced people assigned to rule the crumbles of the seven kingdoms.

In the books, I suspect this ending happens early on in the final volume, and the rest of the book deals with the true war with the CotF. If that’s the case, I think this finale is brilliant: it (barely) satisfies most character endings and provides some closure, but after the books are released, it will have played the entire show audience into a false sense of security. Bran isn’t a good king, Westeros is on the verge of a more significant collapse, Jon is on the front lines of an incoming war and Sansa is right behind him trying to rule a damaged North. All the characters are lined up for a beautiful ending that, in my opinion, would make a lot more sense than what we saw last night.

On the other hand, maybe I’m in the denial stage of grief.

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One Mike to Read Them All - Book II, Chapter 8 of The Return of the King, β€œThe Scouring of the Shire” reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comm…
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One of my hobbies is scouring the internet for cheap flights. Over the last few weeks, I've been sharing my findings with my hometown subreddit, r/sacramento. I had nothing going on this afternoon, so I tried looking for departing flights from Los Angeles. Here are the best deals I found:

Hi everybody, I recently moved back to my hometown of Sacramento after a brief stint in LA. About a month ago, I made a post in r/sacramento sharing some cheap flight deals from Sacramento and various airports in the Bay Area. It was pretty well-received, so I've since done a few more. Basically, I know a lot of people, myself included, just want to travel and aren't super picky about where we go. I make these posts for people like us who will go almost anywhere at anytime if the airfare is cheap. I have no plans this afternoon and, to be perfectly honest, I'm trying to keep myself busy after a recent breakup, so I wanted to do what I could to help some of you hopefully find a great deal.

I don't do this for money and I don't use any special hack or software to find flights. I do it all on Google Flights, Skyscanner and maybe a couple other sites occasionally. With all that said, here are the roundtrip flights departing LA that get me the most excited:

From LAX:

$197 to New York

$148 to Chicago

$357 to London

$378 to Paris

$360 to Barcelona

$298 to Maui

$298 to Honolulu

$320 to Beijing

$393 to Madrid

$714 to Tokyo

$916 to Buenos Aires

All flights are direct and roundtrip. As you can see, the links are to flights on specific dates, which obviously won't work for everyone. If you see a destination/price you like, but the dates aren't quite right, you can play around with the dates provided and often you can get the same deals +/- a few days on either end.

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I love coming here and seeing what other people have collected over the years. Here's mine after 2 years of Ebay and pawn shop scouring!
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My oil painting of The Shire
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TIL In feudal England, the legal official overseeing a shire was referred to as a reeve. Even though America eventually opted to use the word county instead of shire, the title of the legal official remains today: Shire Reeve... Sheriff. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She…
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After scouring several stores and the advice of painters, I now turn to you guys. How do I accomplish the orange for a T'au sept in this photo? The XV88+Light Ochre always ends up being more yellow than orange for me.
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Finally got a hold of the Imperial Light Cruiser by scouring google. Don’t give up hope!!!!!
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I've got two of the same lock but for one of them I don't know the combo. I've been scouring the net for ways to open it, but to no avail, and I'm determined to open it. Any ideas for an amateur? imgur.com/6R0axbN
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[Spoilers] I was scouring the dunes for time capsules and got too close to one of the reapers, it attempted to crush my prawn between its mandibles and damaged it before letting go. Holy shit never knew reapers could do that v.redd.it/uhw6nvna0u741
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How do I win in the Scouring of Lorath as Andalos against Valyria?
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So yesterday I ended up in quite a predicament after scouring this tiny island for hours in the hopes of finally catching a tarantula. I thankfully didn’t lose it after i got bit.
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Scouring the internet for photos of Kronk from the Disnsy channel show
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The Scouring of the Crownlands

27th Day of the Ninth Moon, 493 AC

The Bastion, Seat of the Golden Company

Alyn had dreamed again, the night before.

He was riding a dragon, not being burned by one for once. He remembered feeling its thick, warm scales as they soared through the sky, the bastard feeling like a god as he saw every house, every person, and no one could touch him, or even get to him.

Suddenly, his dragon plunged down, spewing fire the color of silver onto the Kingswood, and Alyn could hear and smell and see all the destruction. The air stank of blood and ash, and people ran for their lives as they screamed in agony.

He awoke as usual, drenched in sweat, and quickly went to the bathtub. His dragon dreams were always bittersweet, as he knew, and had been told by the wizards he'd consulted from the East.

"The Blood of the Dragon is a blessing and a curse, boy", he remembered one saying "The Valyrians dug deep into things mayhaps best left forgotten... you must always beware. Magic is a sword without a hilt, as they say"

Thankfully, the pale bastard had little time for dreams today. He had a job to do, and he had to be quick. This was the last day before the festivities, and everything had to be in order.

He quickly dried himself and put on his uniform of the Golden Company, summoning his squire to put on his plate armor, adorned with his personal sigil: a silver dragon, flying right above the sea. That wouldn't be visible, of course, as he also added the Company's tabard over the armor.

He walked towards the yard, waiting for his soldiers, and the two other acquaintances that he had summoned: Grace Rowan and Daena Velaryon, explaining how he had learned from a group of poachers (who he'd captured with Daena's help) that they were supplying a group of outlaws, and that the very same outlaws would be attacking caravans heading towards the city, taking advantage of the extra influx of people and merchandise due to the celebrations.

Alyn hoped to make a surprise attack on them, and would be greatful for the assistance, if it could be provided. To Grace, he also added that the outlaws were well supplied, and there might be good loot to be shared.

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Samwise and Frodo carried a ring from The Shire beyond Rivendale all the way to Mordor by foot and Samwise didn't lose a single pound of weight.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/CivilizedPsycho
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[WP] After years of scouring through star-charts, ancient literature and trade routes you finally found it. The birthplace of all life in the galaxy, the third planet of an unassuming yellow sun at the edge of the galactic arm.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/PotentialSmell
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I catch the bus to university and this is about all I could carry on the 500 meter walk to the bus stop today. I plan on completely scouring this pathway over time in hopes of it eventually being completely clean.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/RootPing
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What does 2 da C mean in terms of fingering? I've been scouring the internet and there's no sign of it anywhere
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ochreundertones
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Defenders of the shire
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πŸ‘€︎ u/couchburner27
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An image from my time in The Shire (I have a whole series of aesthetically similar shots if anyone is interested)
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I only just realised that none of the Fellowship Hobbits died in the Shire

They died in Gondor and across the sea. They would ideally have wanted to be burried with their ancestors in the Shire.

In addition Gimli never returned to stone under the mountain, and Boromir's people did not have a body to entomb.

The immortals Legolas and Gandalf never expected to be burried anywhere, so no loss there.

Even Aragon did not get the funeral he had grown up expecting, having always fled from kingship.

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[WP] Magic use saps away the energy from living things in order to function, soon one planet is not enough to sustain the cost of magic. This has lead to construction of massive sorcerer-ships, scouring the galaxy for more life to fuel hungry arcane engines, and one is heading towards Earth.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/PotentialSmell
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Today's autumn temperatures were delightful! I enjoyed my MM Shire Cobbit corn cob pipe with some delicious Molto Dolce in the bowl. I'm approaching my first year of smoking pipes. How long have you enjoyed this hobby/lifestyle?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/onthewaymedia
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Taylor’s dream stream game! Why spend all night scouring the depths of the internet for animal fight videos when you can be the director of these ultra accurate battles! youtu.be/B8isXa5fCks
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Montana_Jones
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[FO] I know this piece has been posted a million times by now, but I just finished my version of "Evening in the Shire!"
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ePotential
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The Saucing of the Shire
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πŸ‘€︎ u/HungLikeALemur
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Morning everyone. I thought I would share an announcement about the newest member of the S. E. Shires family. Welcome, Joe Alessi https://www.seshires.com/alessi-announcement
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I would watch the shit out of Space Shire 7.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/danokablamo
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My little Fairytail shire. Only have the last arc of the manga cuz it’s my favorite arc. Hope to add more figures soon!
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Since you guys liked the last video so much. Here’s another no-nonsense tips & tricks video. After scouring the internet, here are my top 15 or so vehicle tips (Not just screen tips). As a new Tesla owner, This info would have been really helpful for me personally. youtu.be/3rYx7m_ZqtA
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πŸ‘€︎ u/SatinGreyTesla
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Burgers on Tom Uglys, edge of The Shire.
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So it turns out that there are some beautiful spots in The Shire. Here's a pic of the turquoise water peeking through suburbia in Port Hacking
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πŸ‘€︎ u/funfwf
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Does know the location of wild raven black shire?

My boi john need it

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Surreal_R3tr0
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My oil painting of Shire from Lord of the Rings
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This photo was posted several days ago, and then deleted. I have since looked through 12 or so bridesmaid sites, scouring to find a similar Orange. Listed in the comments are the sites I have looked at. Help?!
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πŸ‘€︎ u/s2leafthief
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[WIP] You probably know how much I love the theme of the Shire and the hobbits - and now, I am creating the seventh pattern on this subject ☺️The pattern "Winter night in the Shire" will be available in my Etsy store soon!
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