Hey folks, I purchased Andersons Humic DB from Amazon this fall and I think I will add this to my lawn semi-often for the humic acid benefits.
Above said, I am lucky in that I have a local supplier of https://www.amazon.com/Live-Earth-Products-Humate-Conditioner/dp/B08D127Q9T , which I can get for $20 for the 50lb bag. No shipping as it's local!
Andersons via Amazon is $65 for a 40lb bag. And is 70% Humic Acid (derived from leonardite).
The Live Earths product has 45% Humic Acids (derived from humic shale). I also like the fact it has 2.25% iron, but since this is local, I get the nice $20 for 50lbs. See label at: https://www.livearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Humate_soil_conditioner_CA.pdf
For experts out there, any difference in the DERIVED aspect of the products. leonardite?? vs. shale???
Doing calculations, for around $60 for each... I get 150lbs of Live Earths (3 bags) vs. 40lbs of Andersons (1 bag). And 70% vs. 45%, I think I get alot more humic.. --- 28lbs humic vs. 67lbs humic... but again they have a different derived aspect.
Thoughts on this local supply of Live Earth Products... and the derived from humic shale aspect?? What would you do?
Before anyone tilts from the title I found this by researching TAMU’s articles for information about the proper quantities for these products.
I've been operating under the impression that things like humates, humic acid, wetting agents, and sea kelp as soil conditioners were a new thing to hit the market. It would appear that I was quite wrong...
Per the article in 1998 they have been promoted since the lat 1880's. They did a pretty extensive study on their general effectiveness at increasing the yield in corn, sorghum, and cotton. The closing quote:
>The purpose of this publication is not to suggest that all current and/or future non-traditional soil additives are of no value. As new inventions and new products are developed they may have the potential to improve crop yields, crop quality and/or production economics. However,proper product testing and evaluation are critical to verifying the potential benefits of new and unproven materials.
I've been using these soil bio-stimulant products for a couple years now and I'm wondering what sort of benefit I'm actually getting? As they said I'm sure that research has come a long way in the past 20 years.
In the past I have had failed attempts to grow my autoflowers because after they pre flower, they start getting nitrogen and other nutrient deficiencies and I have no idea how to use or what soil conditioner to use to replenish the nutrients in the soil.
I have been told that soil conditioner replenishes nutrients in the soil. My problem is that I never used it before. If I get a fox farm brand soil conditioner, can I top dress it onto the soil and water it in so my plant is getting replenished nutrients and it starve?
Their website advises to use it during flush 3-6 ml/gal. Does anyone have any experience with this product and it’s results. I’ve been using it this entire grow, and I’m kinda weary to flush with it, no idea why I am to be honest, it’s supposed to help nutrient uptake so maybe it would accelerate the leaching process during flush? Opinions?
