Can anyone tell me what is the difference in usage of the past participle and past forms of a verb in Sanskrit?

eg. What is the difference between meaning and usage of forms gataḥ ,agamat and agacchat?

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Hello all! Currently looking for a simple translation of the word “Change” or “alter” in context of a verb. I do not know much about Sanskrit and my research has come up with many results. Would be very appreciated! :)
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Studying Sanskrit be like reading five pages of dictionary for one verb...
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What are the 10 verb lakaras in Sanskrit?

I’m trying to find a list of the verb lakaras in Sanskrit with the proper spellings but I’m not able to.

For example

लट्

लङ्

लुङ्

Etc.

There are 10 of these.

Thanks!

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Can anyone recommend a reliable online generator of sanskrit verb conjugations?

Extra points if there is a noun conjugator as well.

Trying to conjugate ved-( II ) ..

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Sanskrit Lesson 6 (Month 1) - Basic verbs with their roots (introduction) to expand basic vocab
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'Stop arguing for the Arabic language ...if you want to study the perfect language then study Sanskrit,each verb has 100 conjugations,how many in Arabic?...To add injury to insult the word Arabia comes from Sanskrit 'Arvasthan' which means land of horses' imgur.com/m9BhZEo
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[xpost r/sanskrit] Origin of verbs in -am with contrary lengthening? reddit.com/r/sanskrit/com…
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Thinking numerous suppletive form in Greek and Sanskrit (and English), PIE had many irregular verbs?
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TIL that parts of speech (verbs, nouns etc) were first used in Sanskrit literature 'Nirukta' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Par…
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Russian – Sanskrit verbs borissoff.wordpress.com/2…
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TIL the national anthem of India "Jana Gana Mana" was originally writen in Bengali by India’s first Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore. The original Bengali is in a Sanskritized dialect known as Sadhu Bhasha. The words are primarily noun but can be used as verbs alternatively culturalindia.net/nationa…
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Medical Latin
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Grammatical Genders in Indian languages [India in Pixels]
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The story of the creation of Adam from clay is entirely rational for early man and not inspired by Yahweh.

When the first people's were considering what it is that makes them alive / what is the animating force of life, the natural distinction between life and death was if that person or animal was breathing. Breathing? Alive. Not breathing? Dead. So breath takes on a mystical quality.

  • In Ancient Greek, πνεῦμα (pneuma) can mean "breath" and it also means "life", "spirit", and "vitality".
  • In Latin, nouns like anima and spiritus have similar properties, with the verb spiro meaning both "to breathe" and "to be alive".
  • In Sanskrit (and Hindi), similarly, the noun meaning "breath", प्राण (prāṇa), also carries the meaning of "life", "spirit", "soul".
  • In Hebrew, רוּחַ (rúach) in the Bible in Genesis 2:7 used to "breath of life" (נִשְׁמַת חַיִּים).
  • In Classical Chinese, the character 氣 takes a variety of meaning including both "breath" and "life".

There are many more examples.

So breath = life. But man is not made of breath or spirit alone. There must be some physical matter. So if you are ancient man, what would you most naturally think would be used? Turns out it's clay or mud.

  • In ancient Sumeria the gods make humankind, out of clay and blood.
  • In ancient Egypt, the God Khnum creates human children from clay before placing them into their mother's womb.
  • In Greek Mythology, Prometheus molded men out of water and clay.
  • In Zoroastrianism, the first human Gayomart is created from mud.
  • According to Chinese mythology, Nuwa moulded figures from the yellow earth, giving them life and the ability to bear children.
  • In Laoatian folk religion, humans created from mud or clay.
  • The Maori people believe that the God of the forest, created the first woman out of clay and breathed life into her.
  • In the Korean Seng-gut, humans are created from red clay.
  • According to the beliefs of some various Native Americans, including the Ojibwe and Potawatomi, the maker God formed the first humans from clay and breathed life into them.

There are many more examples.

So breath = life and clay + breath = man. As you can see from the above, and many, many more examples if you choose to look, it was clearly natural and logical (given the time and knowledge level of the people) to create a story like that of Adam in Genesis. The story was created thousands of times all around the world before the Genesis story, and in parts of the world the Genesis story couldn't have reached.

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Pre-Greek Substrate [Part I] - Introduction and history of the theory

This is the first part of a series of posts regarding the Pre-Greek substrate, a topic that turned out to be of interest to many members of the sub. Check out this guide for some of the lingusitic concepts mentioned and abbrevations used.

Introduction

The term "Pre-Greek substrate" is used to indicate the unattested language(s) spoken in Greece during (although not necessarily exclusively) the Bronze Age, before the arrival of Proto-Greek speakers around 2000 BC. Nowadays, it is consensus among scholars that this unattested language (or language family) was pre-Indo-European - however, this did not become the consensus until recently.

As I mentioned, Pre-Greek is unattested, meaning we have no written texts in the language (apart from potentially Minoan, Eteocretan, and Eteocypriot, although it's not certain that these are related to "Pre-Greek" spoken in Bronze Age Greece). The first question that comes to mind when we hear about an unattested language is "how do we know about it if it's unattested?". Well, while it's true that there is no direct evidence for the Pre-Greek language, there is a lot of indirect evidence, most of it being the 1000+ Ancient Greek words that were loaned from Pre-Greek.

So, the next question would be "how do we know if a Greek word was loaned from Pre-Greek?". There isn't a straightforward answer which is always valid, and the topic was (and still is) a matter of debate between scholars, but generally it can be said that an Ancient Greek word that has no satisfactory Indo-European etymology (= origin) and/or presents variations and irregularities not explainable in Indo-European terms is likely a word of Pre-Greek origin. This possibility can be further supported by other evidence such as suffixes common among Pre-Greek words (such as -mn-), a meaning suggesting substrate origin (e.g. cultural, religious, and botanical terms), and the presence of multiple variants of the word (due to the irregularities not explainable as Indo-European that I mentioned previously), especially when the variations follow patterns found in other words of likely subs

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Are compound words too long in the Tune conlang?

I am working on Tune, a conlang which has the basic concepts as 1 syllable "word bases", and the rest as 2-syllable bases, each starting and ending with a consonant. The rough current guide is here. You convert the base to nouns/verbs/modifiers by adding a/i/o respectively, so that makes the base words 2 or 3 syllables to start!

I would like to form compound words like "saloyowizitxihawinanoyotxa" (with -wi- being a compound word separator). So split apart that is "saloyo zitxiha nanoyotxa" or "third fingered abnormality". The goal is to have single words be descriptive, so they can accomplish the same thing Latin/Greek words do in English: be used for the biological taxonomy (names of animals and plants and such), or for other things. But combining up to 3-4 words like above, with the -wi- separator (for disambiguation) results in 12+ syllable words. English (with Latin/Greek formed words) seems to max out at like 7 syllables, with most words falling at or below 5 syllables (congratulations English for being so concise!).

How would it be perceived having such long-syllabled compound words? For English speakers the idea of a 12 syllable word just seems like it is impossible to remember or pronounce. But in Tune, there are very clear rules for pronunciation, and everything can be built from atoms, so it's not completely incomprehensible (6-syllabled word right there haha!). Does a long word to someone who speaks an agglutinative language bring you fear/terror/dread or any kind? Is it hard to read? Does it just take some getting used to?

Kind of an open-ended question, but I'm wondering if having such long words will be a deterrent to the language. What is it like in Turkish or Telugu or some other agglutinative language, reading long words? How do you perceive it, what are your techniques, etc.?

From my knowledge, Sanskrit seems to have some pretty long words for more complex concepts, such as akuśalakarmapatha "unwholesome courses of action" (although that's only 8).

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Grammatical Genders in different languages of different regions of India
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Can I get a quick proofread?

अहं खगः ।

अहं रवि गातः न कदा श्रुताहं ।

क्षुद्र वचनहते उपरि उद्दये ह करोमी ।।

In english:

"I am the birdI'm singing songs I'm never heardI fly above your petty words, yes i do"

could I get a quick proof-read on this?
In line 2, should it be कदाः because its like another subject?

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Is there a book just for declensions and verb tables?

I am studying Sanskrit too and have found a pdf of a book that has just the declension tables and verb tables. Is there a similar resource for Latin that I could use?

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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On reading Sanskrit texts

Hello.

It's been over a year and a half that I've been learning Sanskrit. With the help of dictionary for unknown words, I can now more or less understand mahābhārata and rāmāyaṇa . But whenever I try to read some drama or mahākāvya , my mind just goes blank and I cannot figure out anything at all. Just today I was trying to read mudrārākṣasa and though the prose is reasonably straightforward, the verses pass right over my head.

So, I was wondering what can be done to improve my level ? Are the mahākāvyas and plays practically unreadable without learning vyākaraṇa ? I don't have much knowledge of vyākaraṇa. What would be an ideal place to start learning vyākaraṇa as self study ?

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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Identifying Hindi words common with Persian for letter "ja"/"je"

So I have been working on identifying words that are common between Hindi or let's say Hindustani and Persian. In the process, I identified that even my mother tongue (Gujarati) shares a lot of words with Persian. Currently, I have compiled four articles for the first four letters of Arabic and Persian*.* Read my sample writing in the links. Will anyone like to discuss and collaborate for more letters? here is the article for the fifth letter "ja"/"je" in Persian Read the post here: https://recurrent-pi.medium.com/hindustani-to-persian-letter-ja-or-je-c8fee3b842b7

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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I think we’re gonna see more gnarly, targeted, devastating weather attacks. Probably on larger and larger cities.

I’ll say it again, get out of well-populated areas. I think the next logical move for them probably involves “neutrally” shaking up like a motherfu@-er, various large groups of people.

Shake em up like an ant farm that you want to piss off. Escalate things.

Not be blamed. “It’s the weather”

That they control.

(( I go on to write much more than was required. I enjoyed myself. Most of it need not apply to all of you, tho. Mostly: ya, if you want to anger an anti-farm, shake it. And it’s been weird lately, and maybe they need more climate change crisis )) also, I go on to refer to “events that didn’t exist” while also making claims. Idk how many critics still read things here, but I don’t give a fuk. Read, criticize. If you want a talking point to make fun of, just ask me. Or use mudflooder, flerther. I don’t know what shape the earth is. I never did like the pushers of the globe, tho, and anyone who wants to have other people write-off a third party: such persons a douche. The people who seek to slander, have consistently been losers. In my life.

There are plenty who think it’s dumb af to think the earth is round. Either way, smart people are on both sides of the aisle. The commonality, is that there have been, this whole time, persons in charge who have sought to make us feel as stranded and alone as is possible. I contend that almost everything were told is a lie.

If you want some good viewing, JonLevi is an epic YouTuber. I think all conspiracies ultimately lead back to that—because it’s a matter of wanting them to feel as small, transient, insignificant as possible. And then we can have them do whatever we want.

The religious view was never globist. It was the literal, child-sacrificing, demon worshiping elites, who back in the day, as they do now, worship moloch. Phoenicians. The earth was never round before those as$holes. They’re irreligious. Used to sacrifice their own babies. Children.

I posted a video the other day that reference a weapon the soviets had in the ‘70s, that shot a plasmic discharge from earth, to American satellites, in the fuking firmament/in space, overhead.

Shot a plasma beam from earth, to satellites in space, to take them out—when they were spying on the Soviets.

Now, not only is that fuking crazy, but it’s also the exact technology that many mudflooders and alternative researchers have speculated would be used to create something like a mudflood.

We’ve discussed (mudflooders) that the fasces may have been

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

They’re on standbi

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Building a New Latin Translator | Progress + Need Verification on Conjugations Before I process every word I have available into about 900,000 total forms.

I've been able to reconstruct a lot of Classic Latin over the last couple of months. Just found a solution to finally get the correct definitions for all of the reconstructed words. Well. Reverse reconstruction. I am having an issue though. The HUGE problem with translators is the lack of conjugation. For instance:

This does not mean evangelist. It means \"good news.\" 6 of the reverse reconstructed languages got them all correct. Just not Latin to English.

I'm not too concerned about nouns though. The above is basically how verbs are as well. I started writing a template so that I can program code to construct every conjugation with every translation. HOWEVER. I am seriously doubting myself. Obviously we're going to have "you have, I have, they have, he/she/it have, I had, you had, we had, must have, etc."

To overly simplify the process though. I am changing HE/SHE/IT to THEY. So instead of he/she/it has, it will now be they have. The only reason is because I am one person, and I began the process of sorting out the rules for the machine to process pronouns. It's actually incredibly intensive work, especially with Latin. Because now suddenly. I have to know the gender of every SINGLE name/word that would use it. If we use THEY. It's one very simple rule. Plus, it will conform with how our society is now and the loss of communication is nearly zero.

This is non-lemmatized data so that the machine algorithm can match up with the proto languages so that we can be certain that the correct definitions are attributed to the correct words:

filling the gaps with languages related to Latin

About 35,000 words do not have definitions. The lemmatized data came back with about 9000 words undefined. However, many of those words had conjugations because it was unable to decide if was actually the root or not. I'm not sure the process of why it can lemmatize some unknown words, and not others. Perhaps because of multiple interpretations? These are also only a fraction of the words. This is just the first set. I have a database of about 1.5 million unique Latin phrases from every time period.

This is the current reconstruction pipeline. I had trouble with the comparison of data above which is illus

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Geddit? No? Only me?
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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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I wonder what S*ssy Baka Am*gus is in my PIE conlang Natsurian

Copied from u/Tsjaad_Donderlul who copied from u/ThE_EnThuSiasT_2907.

I wanted to yada yada yada you know how it goes.

Amogus

Natsurian doesn't have a protolang, but according to this, the PIE root is h2móogos (I can't type macrons).

Evolving this to Natsurian would make mugom

Sussy

Sus+y

Sus is from suspicious, suspicious from Latin suspiciō, which is sub+speciō, which is from upó and spéḱyeti

sub cognate in Natsurian is əwpo, speciō cognate in Natsurian is speçyonts

therefore making the adjective/verb əwpospeçyonts

-y is from PIE -kos, the cognate in Natsurian is -kom

Therefore making əwpospeçyontskom

Baka

This is farely easy, cause it comes from Japanese 馬鹿 which comes from Sanskrit moha (Wait is it? (Wiktionaries it) Oh, I guess it is), but I couldn't find a Proto-Indo-Eurpoean root. Whatever! I'll just do a [[Hyperlink Blocked]]

so Am*gus S*ssy Baka in Natsurian is mugom əwpospeçyontskom [****[Hyperlink Blocked]]

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E or ß?
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vyākaraṇa for beginners (new series from learnsanskrit.org)

Hi all,

I own and maintain learnsanskrit.org. I've been revising the site recently and wanted to share a series I'm working on. It's an introduction to the Ashtadhyayi and how it works. You can find the series here: https://learnsanskrit.org/vyakarana/

Most of the English-language resources I can find for the Ashtadhyayi are too complex for the novice and get lost too quickly in details or minor theoretical issues. These are certainly important; but I want to show how the system works as a practical device with a practical purpose.

Since the Ashtadhyayi also has wide appeal, I've written this series for a general audience and assume no prior knowledge of Sanskrit (though it certainly helps).

So far, the series has built up to the basics of vowel sandhi. I plan to continue with a light treatment of consonant and visarga sandhi before turning to the verb system.

If you're interested, I can also post new content as it's available. And, please let me know if you see any mistakes.

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What did Spartacus say when the lion ate his wife?

Nothing, he was gladiator.

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Pun intended.
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No spoilers
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Sussy Baka Amogus in Finnish

Sussy

First, "sussy" is a shortened form of "suspicious" with the suffix -y. We can use the Finnish word for "suspicious", epäilyttävä, for this. It's derived from the verb epäillä, which is a frequentative form of evätä. This comes from the prefix epä-, used to negate words, and the usual verb ending. So by this logic, by taking epä- and adding the adjective ending -inen, we get "epäinen" for "sussy". However, "sussy" is clearly a slang term, and using the same logic of Finnish spoken language by which "punainen" -> "punanen", "epäinen" becomes "epänen".

Baka

This Japanese word is derives from sanskrit "moha" which is derived from Proto-Indo-Iranian "mawjhas", from the rooth "~mawgh". The Finnish word "moukka" could be derived from the same root, and is used in translations of Sanskrit texts to describe fools.

Amogus

We can treat this as a Latin loanword: The same way Latin "magister" has become Finnish "maisteri", with the removal of the g and addition of the noun ending -i, "amogus" would become "amogussi" -> "amoussi". In time the -ou- would be shortened to just -u-, giving us "amussi".

#Epänen Moukka Amussi

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Covid problems
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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

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Spi__
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Can anyone tell me what is the difference in usage of the past participle and past forms of a verb in Sanskrit?

eg. What is the difference between meaning and usage of forms gataḥ ,agamat and agacchat?

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What are a few words which have ज्ज ज्झ च्छ ग्घ ग्ग ब्भ?

ट्ट ड्ड ड्ढ प्फ too

single roots

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I had a vasectomy because I didn’t want any kids.

When I got home, they were still there.

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