Rather than follow them down the rabbit hole?
What is Rumination OCD?👇
What is Athazagoraphobia?👇
I am a recent undergrad student in Math after switching from Psychology. I took Stat 110 (Intro to Probability) and remembered how much I loved being challenged, especially in the mathematical sciences. But that came with a downside, I didn't recognize how much my mind would ruminate on a simple mathematical concept. For example, I've been teaching myself linear algebra and though it's not terribly difficult (just laborious) I still find myself questioning simple, abstract concepts like 'how do we know we can use matrices and vectors to find solutions to systems of linear equations besides convention?' Although these questions like these are simple and I think of ways to justify them logically, my mind doesn't let go of them. I was wondering if anyone else had this experience, especially those with OCD, autism, ADHD, or any other neurodivergent identity.
Talk about stuff, follow the rules.
On the topic of rules, here's a new thing to consider.
Recently, there's been a bunch of NSFW submissions in this subreddit that show the dastardly girl nipple.
There has been a very informal and quick community poll regarding nipples being submitted to the subreddit and it was fairly skewed towards being in favor of Nipples.
But there are some more things to consider with this. First of all, is how that "poll" might not have been visible enough for most people who would care to actually vote in it.
Second of all, we'd probably have to update the rules a bit if we want to allow the heinous nipple.
Namely, there's still no actual porn allowed, even if we allow the Nipple (so, no coitus), and no crotch genitalia (so the vagina and the penis are no-gos).
And of course, we're not a porn sub, so preferably we don't get flooded by Nipples.
Also, obviously, no children and children characters. Reddit (the site, the Admins) has a tendency to really not like actual Loli stuff. We're still not a porn sub, there are tons of other places to go to if that's your jam.
Is this maybe overcomplicated? Yes. Without being put into the actual rules, this is just the time we'll use to figure out the rules.
Also feel free to talk about why guys are allowed to show nipples but girls ain't or something, idk.
PROPOSED RULE UPDATE: Fanart/Art/VTuber model partial frontal nudity is OK, but only a Verified VTuber can submit them here, following pre-established Self Promo rules and restrictions.
Hi everyone! I guess I'm facing some kind of internal dilemma regarding my addiction to cannabis.
To give you some context, I have experienced several depressive episodes since I was 11 or 12 years old. It was never diagnosed and I do intend to ask my doctor about this, but I also suspect I might have an attention disorder, albeit without hyperactivity. When I was a child I got praised a lot because I was a fast learner and I showed creativity and talent, for instance I used to draw all the time, but I would only give attention to the activities or subjects that I liked. It was very hard to get me to do anything I didn't find enjoyable; I actually got into trouble because I refused to participate to my sport classes when I was in high school. Also my homework were pretty much never, ever done. xD
Other factors then started making growing up harder; I had very few friends and I'm gay. Back then, we were living in a rural area, which is rarely a super good combination, espacially in the early 2000s. I got bullied quite a lot, to the extent where I basically had no self-esteem whatsoever by the time I was 18. Back then my life was mostly playing World of Warcraft, which was the only "place" where I could get some feeling of social integration. The combination of those issues made my 20s a very "interesting" period. I moved out to study, but failed, tryed studying again, failed again of course, and then I had to do stupid jobs at restaurants for a couple of years, but I still owe a ton of student loans.
I started smoking weed around two years ago when the Covid was starting, in early 2020. Like most people working at a restaurant, I lost my job and got a looot of free time at home, which accelerated drastically my transition into a dirty pothead.
Though, I genuinely feel like smoking weed has helped me a lot, dealing with anxiety and even being a perfectionist, or socially awkward. It does a pretty good job at lowering my inhibitions, which are normally too high. I went back to school last year, at 29, which was absolutely a decision made while I was super stoned. The thing is, when I'm baked, I get to clearly see the "color" of my emotion, and it helps guide my reflexion and my introspection. I ended up having a really awful time that first year at school... but at least, as a student I could ask for psychological help. Another cannabis-induced choice, by the way, which ended up paying a lot. Asking for help was the thing I needed to do all along,
CW: mentions suicidal thoughts, depression, body dysmorphia, lack of identity.
If you’re someone who knows me in person, please don’t read this because it will only upset you.
If you’re one of the trans people who tried to crack my egg to help me transition despite being careful to maintain plausible deniability, please be more careful in the future because ‘egg culture’ enables transitioning to avoid trauma as a maladaptive coping mechanism. I found out that dissociation as another gender is pleasing to the brain but it’s not truth. Don’t go around looking for eggs to crack because they don’t exist.
I still feel a deep seated loathing for myself. I know this is a mental illness related to childhood neglect and rejection. Now it’s also connected to trying to transition to escape trauma and shame surrounding that whole catastrophe. Embarrassing to make a mistake but it’s equally confusing to explain the magnitude of the psychological damage I did to myself by rejecting aspects of myself that I didn’t like to fit a binary transman role.
Here I go yelling into the void - I thought I was transgender because I related to trans people and a few of them encouraged me to view myself that way.
So why did I socially transition? It’s a really good question. The only answer is that I believed I was meant to be a man. Everything I was exposed to my whole life kept pointing me in this direction until I finally cracked and came out as trans. I don’t really think of myself as an egg either. Though it’s fair to say I was treated as one by many transgender people that I’ve met in my life. I pretended to be an egg. I wanted them to validate me and crack me. I wanted rescuing from my femaleness. I genuinely thought I had a blue brain and I fully believed in an innate gender binary. I also believed my mind held the truth and that my body showed a lie!
Here’s a bit of where it started. Of course it was my relationship, or lack thereof, with my mother. Watching my mum fawn over boys and express disdain over having an unhelpful, Chatty Cathy, irritating girl child. Both my mum and dad implied only boys were suitable for help on the farm too. Sometimes my mum’s anger at the girl children unveiled her obvious sense of being deliberately punished by God for only been given girls. Especially when her brother got a son on the first try. She was a self-proclaimed feminist and understood it wasn’t fair to disadvantage girls and even that girls were just as capable as boys -
... keep reading on reddit ➡People with ADHD are apparently prone to obsessively overanalyzing and catastrophizing, getting stuck in negative loops of thought.
I noticed there was a pattern to when I get into these moods of worry. For me it's usually at night when I'm in bed.
I decided not to believe anything negative that my mind tells me at that time. Absolutely nothing at all. Instead I remind myself firmly that my brain is not currently reliable and that I'll be glad to think over the same topic in the morning. But not now.
It's a small thing, but it helps such a great deal. Assuring myself that everything will be alright is a bad strategy because my brain knows I'm lying, but telling myself my brain is unreliable during its night worry mode is essentially true and I know it.
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15: Rumination on thoughts
Yup, it is a term. Perhaps less academic, but still widely used. We use term "rumination" to define deep and purposeful thinking, in psychology - focused attention and compulsive thinking about the the reasons and symptoms of of the issues, but not about the solutions (1). These annoying thoughts are turned and circled, repeated in thousands of circles, never leaving the labyrinth of them.
Rumination often goes together with depression and anxiety. Usually people search for reasons of their poor emotional state, for ways to deal with it but completely dismiss any attempts to resolve the underlying reasons. Ruminating thoughts may revolve around goals that are not achieved, inability to control one's life, and usually are facing the past ("I am a loser", "I gain weight from anything", "I do not want to do anything"). A friendly chat about the problems with a neighbour is a very healthy thing to do - but a daily repetitions of the same thing (co-rumination) is not healthy anymore. And it is not so easy to find the borderline between healthy and not healthy behaviors. Rumination is compared to automatic negative thoughts (spontaneous thoughts about personal losses or failures), but the latter ones are usually relatively short lived. When ruminating, we can spend decades on thinking that we fail to eat healthy, that we lack energy for exercise, or consider thousands of easily accessible stereotypes.
Why we get stuck in the endless circle of thoughts? We usually go back in our thoughts to problems or thoughts we have not finished. Because we cannot find the solution (and this happens because we don't have time to find it, circling the same thoughts...), then we go back to the same already familiar thoughts (2, 3). What is helpful? Problem solving (!), music, positive memories, puzzles...
By the way, term "rumination" is also used when we talk about the cows. About the way they re-chew the grass they ate. SOunds like the same thing.
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... keep reading on reddit ➡I'm a beginner at meditation and while I know that thoughts popping up is normal and part of the process I find myself ruminating constantly while trying to meditate. I do try to catch myself and bring my awareness back to the breath but it is frustrating because of how often it happens (legit every 2 seconds!) and how I end up focusing on things that make me feel worse. I am dealing with some intrusive thoughts and depression and I am hoping that meditation will help in the long run...any tips?
Edit: wow thank you for all the kind and thoughtful replies. I appreciate all of you and will be trying out these tips ❤️
rumination / overthinking
i cut off an emotionally and mentally abusive friend last year and after that i fell into a rumination addiction and i have been ruminating about the things they said to me over and over every single day for a year straight. i feel disgusted because it was my first male friend and now i’m scared that every male will be like him too. i feel disgusted that i let a grown dude manipulate me, demand me around, and screech at me. he would scream at me every time i said something that wasn’t a response or reply to him and he would screech at me saying i was way too “weird”, “random”, and “unfunny” and told me that i don’t “make any sense” just cause i wanted to share a funny little story that happened to me during my day. just cause i stepped out of being his reaction machine for a little. anything that wasn’t a reaction to him would make him screech at me. he was a narcissist would talk about himself and expect a reaction for everything. i keep thinking about moments where it was my perfect chance to cut him off but i didn’t and i regret it so much. he was obsessed with provoking me and making me into the villain and himself the hurt victim if i spoke up for myself. i also regret being a people pleaser and following his demands. i let him control and manipulate me because if i spoke up he would punish me for speaking up so stayed silent since that. he would say the most our of pocket insults and then say “i’m just kidding” or quickly go back to acting normal before i could even process it. sometimes i’ll be in a psychology class and my rumination will overtake me and ill find myself wanting to cry and just not want to live anymore. its ruining me, the rumination is ruining me the regret of not protecting my peace until it was too late and i already had brain damage is ruining me. it’s like he had every bad quality put into him. he was so abusive. he would abuse a word so much to the point where i see it now and it triggers the bad memories. how do i get over this?
I have a hard time dealing with this. Once I let my anxiety and ruminating thoughts take over myself, I enter in a state of complete panic and can't really get out of it if I don't sleep or use Xanax. I want to use some techniques to halt the mechanism of anxiety once it has already taking over me. I know that best approach would be to catch it early on, but often this is not possible. Anyone can help me with this?
Rant and ramble incoming. TL:DR Whatever rifle you have is a recce rifle and most people don't actually understand the basics of what Recce is or what kind of organizational support is needed to do it correctly.
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Hey boys and girls,
I just wanted to talk about the "Recce" rifle/mindset explosion that has happened over the last few weeks/months and give some general information and commentary from the perspective of someone that has done a few different types of "Recce" missions. At the end I will explain why this is all really over-hyped and poorly thought out and how I would shift the perspective if I could. Be advised, While I have experience and knowledge I am not a Recon Marine, I didnt go to a school for it I just have experience gained from my time in the military. What I think may not be right, it might not be right for you, your mission or your AO. METT-TC dictates everything so use your best judgement.
So first things first we need to actually define "Recce" as most people don’t really have a lot of experience or knowledge about what that actually entails, much less how one would set up a gear set/rifle for it. "Recce" is an abbreviation for Reconnaissance and falls into several different forms. Ranging from Physical Human Intel/Observation to UAS and Satellite. These forms all have varied METT-TC that change based on your AO and other specific factors that YOU need to take into account. For our purposes we will be focusing on HUMINT RECON and briefly touch on Counter UAS observation.
Next we need to talk about what the objectives of Recon actually are. “Reconnaissance is a mission undertaken to obtain, by visual observation or other detection methods, information about the activities and resources of an enemy or adversary, or to secure data concerning the meteorological, hydro-graphical, or geographic characteristics of a particular area (JP 2-0). Reconnaissance identifies terrain characteristics, enemy and friendly obstacles to movement, and the disposition of enemy forces and civilian population, so commanders can maneuver their forces freely and rapidly. It also collects information about the indigenous population needed to answer intelligence requirements, primarily those related to civil considerations. Reconnaissance befo
... keep reading on reddit ➡All day I ruminate about stuff that is pointless. For example, I’m ruminating over meditation. “I should stop doing it because you’ll eventually be too aware of your breath when you don’t want to” “but then I won’t be at my mental peak” “well maybe I can do it every other day, or week on week off”
I started a breathing method called the wim hof method. “I should stop doing it because it changes my vibe and people won’t like me as much but they won’t know why” “I’ll only do it if I have an important athletic event or if I’m getting sick” “no actually only when you’re getting sick” “if i was in the nba I’d do it only on game day, but their games are back to back sometimes. That’s too much”
Coming to a decision in my head is completely not obtainable. Shit I’m going crazy. The easy way would be to just simply stop doing these things and forget about them completely. Well that doesn’t help, another thing for me to worry about will come up and I’ll be in this same position just trying to perfect something else. It’s a goddamn war in my head.
If anyone knows what this feels like. Plz share some advice or something. It would be greatly appreciated. Im stressed out 24/7. I just got off an hour session with my therapist. (First time meeting) and I had no clue what the fuck to say. We ended up talking about something totally unrelated to this.
I’m talking constant worry over things you can’t control, or going over issues over and over and over in your head. It’s like my brain is trying to “solve” something by “thinking” but it essentially does nothing other than cause stress and make me unable to focus/stay present in my day to day.
What are the best ways you’ve found to cut this short?
So it's been sometime but I catch myself non stop ruminating a lot. Instructive what ifs, good memories, bad memories, questions just a hamster wheel. I'm keeping myself busy but unfortunately it's the rumination that makes life up and down. I know it's for the best but subconsciously it's an endless cycle. I would have been drunk myself if I continued with the q. Tips or advice?
I did sign up to therapy but it's a month out
Stoicism for somatic memories?
The title sounds a lot harsher than what I mean but it’s the clearest way to get my point across, essentially I’ve been waiting with her for about three months and every single session she spends more than half the session on a rumination of a situation that happened a couple years ago. I can never seem to get her to move past it even though we have explored it extensively and even when I’ve asked her how the rumination is helpful for her now and she said it’s not. Any advice?? Thank you!
I am incredibly sensitive to rejection. Recently in my life I have realized that this problem has gotten a lot worse for me. I was psychologically abused by a narcissistic ex, and since then I haven’t been the same. Adderall helps with the other symptoms of ADHD, but not the constant rumination and beating myself up for my failed relationships. Actually it seems like Adderall focuses my attention more on those negative thoughts, making it so much worse.
Does anyone else feel this way? How do you manage?
Would really appreciate any suggestions
TL;DR: I liked the New War except for THE COMBINATION OF 1) too grindy and 2) locked in. I didn't have to defeat the Glassmaker to keep playing Warframe. I never beat the Glassmaker. I have not finished the New War, and I'm terrified that confronting a Glassmaker class villain is what I need to do to get out, because I don't have the time of a 13 year old, and I don't have the reflexes of a hummingbird. I hear Ordis saying "Operator! Maybe you should try 'Tetris'?" Yeah. Maybe I should.
Long Winded Verbage starts:
Hello. I am an Olde Farte, and I play Warframe. No, I am not DE's "target demographic". To be truthful, I should identify more with the Orokin than anything else in Warframe. There is a certain charm in being able to abandon the old and nearly useless body I'm in for one that doesn't get tired, doesn't really hurt, and has godlike powers. But enough about me and my shortcomings, mental and physical.
I like the "average" Warframe experience: If I only have 15 minutes to "waste" I can play one of the short missions. If I can lie my way to a longer block of time (you married people know what I'm talking about) then I can visit one of the open worlds.
Recently DE released the New War on an unsuspecting universe. "Two hours worth of content!" they chirped. "Do the Required Reading!" they implied. O.K., well I'm level 26, I know a thing or two. I'm not speedrunning through anything, but screw you, I don't have the reflexes of a hummingbird so I have to rely on a trusty blade and a big effing gun and (when all else fails) hiding behind something. Besides, they put a lot of work into the setting, and I like to site see.
Cue the New War. The "introduction" was epic. Please don't let Kahl 175 be dead. Veso was a pain in the ass, but he grew a pair in the end and I didn't want him to die either (but you know that scooombahg Alad V probably weaseled out of a fiery death). I wasn't as invested in the Teshin phase. If you're going to make a demigod more relatable you have to show a hidden weakness. Some memory that gnawed at him, some PTSD thing from the Old War. Knock him down a peg so he can struggle back up, and we can cheer him on along the way. Fun nonetheless. Please don't let him be dead, he was toxic masculinity at it's finest.
Then the curtain falls on our three mere mortals, catharsis attained (mostly, give the whole thing a B+/A-). And Then The Slog Began. You who have started know what I'm talking about. Learning a whole new mechanic whil
... keep reading on reddit ➡Every time I socialize, I am tortured by purely obsessional thought rituals after I get home. I worry about the same things many people worry about (such as if I perceived as rude/weird/annoying?Did I make other people uncomfortable? Did I offend anyone?) but the amount of time I spend thinking about it is excessive and it creates significant emotional distress. I also replay conversations in my head many times and try to figure out why people said what they said or how I was perceived. The cycle is that I feel uncomfortable about what I’ve said or how I was perceived and then I think about it over and over again, until I randomly feel some reassurance or it “clicks” in my brain that everything is okay. The feeling of reassurance is always temporary and it is variable how long it will last before it “unclicks” and I am overcome with ruminative urges again. I spend hours daily for at least a week, sometimes multiple weeks or months after a social event stuck in these types of patterns. It makes it so I dread socializing because I know my brain will punish me/torture me later. It makes me feel hopeless and depressed. Does anyone else experience this or have any advice on how to cope? It’s driving me crazy and is particularly flared up right now after all of the socializing that happened over the holidays.
With very few exceptions, it doesn't matter what your obsession themes are. It's an intrusive thought, followed by compulsions. For most of you on here with the "Pure O" type, those compulsions are rumination, which is excessively analyzing the thought to figure it out, to see if it's true, or trying to counteract the thought. People confuse this and think the rumination is an intrusive thought they should accept, but this isn't true. The intrusive thought is the initial quick thought you can't control and should accept. Anything after that is rumination, which you should NOT do if you want to get better (example: Harm OCD guy has a thought of punching his cat. That's the intrusive thought. That's what you accept as there. He then imagines doing it to make sure he isn't actually going to do it or like it. That's rumination, the compulsion that you must stop doing). Rumination is a choice. It doesn't feel like you can control it, but that's because your brain is convincing you it will help you solve the problem, even though it's impossible. That logic is what makes OCD what it is, an endless loop. Practice noticing when you are ruminating after the initial intrusive thought, and practice thinking about something else once you recognize it. Change the topic in your mind, and move on. You'll see this is very difficult at first, almost like an addiction, proving that it is indeed a compulsion. It takes practice and sometimes sheer willpower.
So I see these themes a lot on this sub. I have had severe, diagnosed OCD for years, diagnosed long before my ADHD was.
Like, ADHD, OCD is an INCREDIBLY misunderstood disorder. So, so many people think it's about liking things neat, or hand washing, or counting or whatever. While it certainly can manifest in this way for some individuals, it is infinitely varied in its presentation. For some people it will present as repetitive intrusive thoughts, or mental rumination (which while not physical, is still a compulsion.)
It's not uncommon to have both, but because a lot of the symptoms are similar, coupled with the fact it's misunderstood, it often flies under the radar.
I would speak to a clinical psychologist, as less highly trained therapists or counsellors can misunderstand it as well.
I regularly see posts of people struggling with the self-doubt and constant rumination of past trauma. I myself find myself wasting more mental energy thinking about my upbringing than I wish I did, I wish I could just focus on other aspects of my life instead. But sadly, I can be in the shower, walking to the shop or even working at my job and my mind constantly drifts to memories I wish I could just move on from...
So, I thought it would be useful to share any practical tips anyone has so we can all try it out!
The only tip I have had some success with for the self-doubt part at least, is to journal any and all memories. It helps a little, and helps remind myself I am not totally crazy sometimes.
Whats your tip?
I would love to have some recommendations from you guys.
i cut off an emotionally and mentally abusive friend last year and after that i fell into a rumination addiction and i have been ruminating about the things they said to me over and over every single day for a year straight. i feel disgusted because it was my first male friend and now i’m scared that every male will be like him too. i feel disgusted that i let a grown dude manipulate me, demand me around, and screech at me. he would scream at me every time i said something that wasn’t a response or reply to him and he would screech at me saying i was way too “weird”, “random”, and “unfunny” and told me that i don’t “make any sense” just cause i wanted to share a funny little story that happened to me during my day. just cause i stepped out of being his reaction machine for a little. anything that wasn’t a reaction to him would make him screech at me. he was a narcissist would talk about himself and expect a reaction for everything. i keep thinking about moments where it was my perfect chance to cut him off but i didn’t and i regret it so much. he was obsessed with provoking me and making me into the villain and himself the hurt victim if i spoke up for myself. i also regret being a people pleaser and following his demands. i let him control and manipulate me because if i spoke up he would punish me for speaking up so stayed silent since that. he would say the most our of pocket insults and then say “i’m just kidding” or quickly go back to acting normal before i could even process it. sometimes i’ll be in a psychology class and my rumination will overtake me and ill find myself wanting to cry and just not want to live anymore. its ruining me, the rumination is ruining me the regret of not protecting my peace until it was too late and i already had brain damage is ruining me. it’s like he had every bad quality put into him. he was so abusive. he would abuse a word so much to the point where i see it now and it triggers the bad memories. how do i get over this?
i cut off an emotionally and mentally abusive friend last year and after that i fell into a rumination addiction and i have been ruminating about the things they said to me over and over every single day for a year straight. i feel disgusted because it was my first male friend and now i’m scared that every male will be like him too. i feel disgusted that i let a grown dude manipulate me, demand me around, and screech at me. he would scream at me every time i said something that wasn’t a response or reply to him and he would screech at me saying i was way too “weird”, “random”, and “unfunny” and told me that i don’t “make any sense” just cause i wanted to share a funny little story that happened to me during my day. just cause i stepped out of being his reaction machine for a little. anything that wasn’t a reaction to him would make him screech at me. he was a narcissist would talk about himself and expect a reaction for everything. i keep thinking about moments where it was my perfect chance to cut him off but i didn’t and i regret it so much. he was obsessed with provoking me and making me into the villain and himself the hurt victim if i spoke up for myself. i also regret being a people pleaser and following his demands. i let him control and manipulate me because if i spoke up he would punish me for speaking up so stayed silent since that. he would say the most our of pocket insults and then say “i’m just kidding” or quickly go back to acting normal before i could even process it. sometimes i’ll be in a psychology class and my rumination will overtake me and ill find myself wanting to cry and just not want to live anymore. its ruining me, the rumination is ruining me the regret of not protecting my peace until it was too late and i already had brain damage is ruining me. it’s like he had every bad quality put into him. he was so abusive. he would abuse a word so much to the point where i see it now and it triggers the bad memories. how do i get over this?
i cut off an emotionally and mentally abusive friend last year and after that i fell into a rumination addiction and i have been ruminating about the things they said to me over and over every single day for a year straight. i feel disgusted because it was my first male friend and now i’m scared that every male will be like him too. i feel disgusted that i let a grown dude manipulate me, demand me around, and screech at me. he would scream at me every time i said something that wasn’t a response or reply to him and he would screech at me saying i was way too “weird”, “random”, and “unfunny” and told me that i don’t “make any sense” just cause i wanted to share a funny little story that happened to me during my day. just cause i stepped out of being his reaction machine for a little. anything that wasn’t a reaction to him would make him screech at me. he was a narcissist would talk about himself and expect a reaction for everything. i keep thinking about moments where it was my perfect chance to cut him off but i didn’t and i regret it so much. he was obsessed with provoking me and making me into the villain and himself the hurt victim if i spoke up for myself. i also regret being a people pleaser and following his demands. i let him control and manipulate me because if i spoke up he would punish me for speaking up so stayed silent since that. he would say the most our of pocket insults and then say “i’m just kidding” or quickly go back to acting normal before i could even process it. sometimes i’ll be in a psychology class and my rumination will overtake me and ill find myself wanting to cry and just not want to live anymore. its ruining me, the rumination is ruining me the regret of not protecting my peace until it was too late and i already had brain damage is ruining me. it’s like he had every bad quality put into him. he was so abusive. he would abuse a word so much to the point where i see it now and it triggers the bad memories. how do i get over this?
Does this med help with these symptoms ?
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