Why do these Wiki pages have different combatants for the same event? - Nivelle offensive/Bataille du Chemin des Dames.

I was looking at the wikipedia page to learn about the Nivelle Offensive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nivelle_offensive. I switched to the French version out of curosity to see there is no mention of the UK https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataille_du_Chemin_des_Dames. Is there a good reason for this?

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French Schneider CA1 tank, with battle damage, during the Nivelle Offensive, Berry-au-Bac - 1917
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The Nivelle Offensive In A Nutshell youtu.be/ksa3o4_QpB4
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"Schneider CA1-Aisne 1917". French Schneider tanks advance towards German trenches during the Nivelle Offensive. Painting by Tuomas Koivurinne. [1024x690]
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French soldiers helping a wounded colonial soldier during the Nivelle Offensive in 1917.
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Who were the French soldiers that organized the 1917 Mutiny following the Nivelle Offensive?

Is there any biographical record or data on the mutineers?

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French Schneider tank crew prior to the nivelle offensive 1917
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(The Great War) 75: The Nivelle Offensive TheGreatWarPodcast.podbea…
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Trying to take the No Man's Land during Nivelle Offensive youtu.be/FYg3w2FCbVM
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[BF1] The Nivelle offensive - a short cinematic v.redd.it/izon5a4h1qa31
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Nivelle Offensive.
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Friday Reading: Nivelle Nights and the catastrophic Nivelle Offensive

My dad's an historian and as I was going through some of his old newspapers and stuff I found a really cool book called The Great Battles of World War I, and he said I could have it.

Did some reading about Nivelle last night, since Nivelle Nights is my favorite map. I though it'd make an interesting Friday read. The actual Battlefield 1 map is awesome, and it includes a few cool historical references that I never thought about until I read about the actual Nivelle Offensive.

And hoo boy. It was a rough one.

General Robert Nivelle was a very proud, passionate and influential French general, and was a hero for ordering a successful surprise assault on a strong German position at Verdun. He was subsequently promoted to commander in chief of the French Army. Just after the New Year in 1917, the heads of state of France, Italy, and Britain met in Rome to discuss the state of despair over the length and stagnation of the war and to try to come up with a solution. They needed an end to the conflict. They agreed that the Austro-Hungarian/Italian front was not a good option for a breakthrough, as it could force Italy out of the war. Instead, a Franco-British offensive was the only real option. After the Rome meeting, General Nivelle concocted an extraordinary plan to decisively break German defenses along the Hindenburg Line. There was a section of the German line that had bulged out from the main Hindenburg Line (called a salient) and was vulnerable to an attack. Nivelle's secret plan was essentially to wipe out the salient from three sides in a crushing artillery barrage that would destroy German gun emplacements, followed by lightning-fast infantry attack, that would move 7 miles in a (completely insane) single day. The infantry would break through the Hindenburg Line with that attack's momentum, and hopefully end the war. The plan was fraught over and discussed for weeks. Nivelle convinced everyone that his plan would work, even after being told by nearly everyone that it was unrealistic to move that quickly through the German lines. It was also absolutely dependent on secrecy, since if the Germans knew about the attack they'd be prepared and the whole thing would be ruined.

Here's the book excerpt about Nivelle's plan.

The French Army began training in this lightning-speed approach, with the mantra "Keep Moving!" and soldiers were trained in setting up light 37mm machine guns quickly, intending to destroy German m

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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Nivelle offensive in a nutshell
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French High Command reviewing Robert Nivelle's failed Nivelle offensive before firing him and replacing him with Phillippe Petain. Circa 1917, colorized.
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French troops crossing destroyed bridge, Nivelle Offensive 1917.
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When the Nivelle Offensive fails and your troops start to mutiny...
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French High Command reviewing Robert Nivelle's failed Nivelle offensive before firing him and replacing him with Phillippe Petain. Circa 1917, colorized.
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The Nivelle Offensive - A short Battlefield 1 cinematic, created with the spectator mode youtube.com/watch?v=0n4O8…
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[December 3rd, 1916] W. Front: General Joffre is replaced by General Robert Nivelle as head of French forces on the Somme, following failure of offensive. history.com/this-day-in-h…
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[Suggestion] Nivelle Offensive Operation

I have a suggestion on how you could add a really unique operation without having to put in too much effort.

The first map is a daytime version of Nivelle Nights, where the French attack. The operation ends with the French capturing the first and second lines of German trenches.

The second map is the current version of Nivelle Nights, but the Germans now counter-attack the French.

The Battalions available to the Germans could be in inverse of the leftover french reinforcements.

So for example, the French end the first map with 1 battalion left, the Germans would start the next map with 2 battalions.

If the french win the first map in 1 go without using any reinforcements they automatically win the operation.

French Battalions used: 1 = French win automatically

French Battalions used: 2 = Germans get 2 Battalions

French Battalions used: 3 = Germans get 3 Battalions

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[Suggestion] The French should be the Attackers on the new maps --Nivelle Offensive

I've made a comment about this on an earlier thread, but I think it makes more sense to have French Attackers and German Defenders on "Nivelle Nights."

 

On a similar note, "Prise de Tahure" means "Capture/Taking of Tahure" in French, and I think they should be retaking the German-occupied town --not the other way around, i.e., "DΓ©fense de Tahure."

 

I'm suggesting all this on the chance that there will be a future Operation with these two maps, which would be nice --especially considering their inclusion to the TSNP package/rotation.

 

However, if there is no planned Operation, then perhaps split it down the middle: French attack on one, and the Germans attack on another --this gives both factions an equal amount of attacking/defending.

 

TL;DR: Title

 

These are minor suggestions, but I think they will add to the game. Thanks!

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WW1 French troops : Preparation for Nivelle Offensive in April 1917 massesoldaten.blogspot.co…
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Meaning of two paragraphs from "Nivelle's Spring Offensive - Royal Conspiracy In Greece I THE GREAT WAR Week 131"

Hi.

I have been translating several Week episodes to Spanish, and I am having trouble understanding the meaning of two parts of the Week 131 video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZbaRmScn5o) that happen to be quotes from people of the time:

  1. At 0:56

"[...] President Woodrow Wilson said that while the US would not have a voice in determining what terms of peace for the World War should be, they would have a voice in seeing whether those terms would be lasting as guaranteed.

Things the US would join in guaranteeing were: [...]".

It seems kind of contradictory. I understand the first part as meaning "we will not take a stance, we will agree to whatever peace plan is agreed between the European nations and we will help make it to last", but then in the second part it comes to tell how such a peace plan should be. Is there something I am missunderstanding?

  1. 6:15, telegram from Constantine of Greece to the Kaiser Wilhelm "The transport of the whole artillery and war materiel to the Peloponnesus is being maintained by the pressure of the blockade. "

Since there is no previous context of who wanted the artillery and war materiel to be sent to the Peloponnesus, I wonder what is going on. Is King Constantine complaining that he is being forced to move the artillery and materiel to the Peloponnesus by the Allies?

Thank you.

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WW1 French troops : Preparation for Nivelle Offensive in April 1917 massesoldaten.blogspot.co…
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When the Nivelle offensive fails
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Nivelle's Spring Offensive - Royal Conspiracy In Greece I THE GREAT WAR Week 131 youtube.com/watch?v=LZbaR…
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In the Nivelle offensive episode there was footage of soldiers running with what seemed like mini wooden shields. What were these for and how common were they?
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[April 27th, 1917] Aisne River: Nivelle receives orders from the government to forego his planned offensive at Brimont Ridge in May. books.google.co.uk/books?…
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Nivelle's Spring Offensive - Royal Conspiracy In Greece | THE GREAT WAR Week 131 youtu.be/LZbaRmScn5o
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[April 14th, 1917] Arras: Needing to keep the Germans occupied as the time for Nivelle's major offensive approaches, Haig sends two battalions against the German line to the east of Monchy, driving them back, but the German counterattack regains the lost ground and forces the British back on Monchy. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon…
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[November 18th, 1916] Verdun: Unsatisfied with the gains achieved in October, Gen. Robert Nivelle secures Joffre's approval of another offensive along a six-mile front extending from Vacherauville on the Meuse River to Damloup. ww2-weapons.com/diary-nov…
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When the Nivelle Offensive fails and your troops start to mutiny...
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Nivelle's Spring Offensive - Royal Conspiracy In Greece I THE GREAT WAR Week 131 youtube.com/watch?v=LZbaR…
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[April 26th, 1917] Paris: At the minister's request, General Haig visits Defense Minister PainlevΓ©, who assures him the French offensive will continue but indicates that he wishes to replace Nivelle with Gen. Philippe PΓ©tain. books.google.co.uk/books?…
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[December 15th, 1916] Verdun: Fulfilling his promise to keep the pressure on the Germans, Nivelle sends the French Second Army into a limited offensive on a bitter winter day, retaking Louvemont and Bezonvaux and extending the front line two miles beyond Fort Douaumont. ww2-weapons.com/diary-dec…
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[January 2nd, 1917] Coalition Warmaking: Nivelle reveals more detail about his offensive in a letter to Haig. To Haig's dismay Nivelle now speaks of a massive and "prolonged" offensive by 100 divisions, including 35 British divisions. Haig and his staff want a British offensive in the north. 1914-1918.invisionzone.co…
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French High Command reviewing Robert Nivelle's failed Nivelle offensive before firing him and replacing him with Phillippe Petain. Circa 1917, colorized.
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[May 15th, 1917] Aisne River: Gen. Philippe PΓ©tain becomes commander in chief of the French Armies of the North and North-East, replacing the discredited Nivelle who had so confidently predicted the success of his now-failed offensive. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi…
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[April 6th, 1917] France: President Poincare and generals meet in train at Compiegne to reconsider offensive. Nivelle threatens to resign, but given approval provided attack called off after 48 hours, if expected gains not forthcoming. 5,350 guns now bombarding. ww2-weapons.com/diary-apr…
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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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What do you call quesadillas you eat in the morning?

Buenosdillas

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

They’re on standbi

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Geddit? No? Only me?
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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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